@Eklispe Will do. As far as custom cards go, something that lets you throw cards in the grave is always welcome. Maybe an archetype Imperial Iron Wall too- though that would also get in the way of Wight Prince.
@Scarifar Dark Magician house is for general ed majors, ritual dudes, and also users the new summoning method once that comes out in three-ish months.
It has come to my attention, sadly, that looking at the direction that the rp appears to be taking from Character sheets and the like that people are more intent on winning duels then participating and having fun in them, this is certainly not the type of RP I would find to be long term sustaining in this instance, As if i wanted to play duels that were hyper-competitive in this aspect I would resort to using Percy or the like. So it is with an apology that I will have to toss my hat and quit before it even begins.
I hope everyone has fun and that I am proven wrong that this RP is taking a 'Go For Wins' Approach.
@1Charak2 Who exactly is building their decks explicitly to win? What's your reasoning? Like, I can't keep you from leaving and you don't have to answer me, but I'd like to know your opinion.
To everybody else who does plan on staying though, I've set up the little index on the character sheets tab.
as for her personality I'll think on changing it. It wasn't terribly inspired in the first place so I'm not attached to it.
Mmm, i'm right with you on that front. Like half the time i Rp, my characters come across as really bland and generic until i find the right voice for them two or three posts in.
Oooooookay. I don't really intend on bowing out of this RP myself, but I do have some concerns that Charak brought up.
Everyone's deck here is looking like a legit, constructed deck to play online with instead of dumb fun stuff to make for an entertaining show. Stuff like Nekroz is solitaire, there's two OTK decks, there's a Kaiju Kaiser deck which is the epitome of 'no fun allowed' and there's Zombie Synchro. Zombie Synchro is no Dark synchro, but can still vomit the extra deck.
...I'd kinda say EVERYONE is building their decks to win.
EDIT: Also, most people took the ideal 40-card deck with a ton of +0 draw and search, which you shouldn't really need in a freeform dueling system like this
...Have you even looked at my deck? I run a ton of gimmicky Xyz support which have better alternatives, random Xyz extra deck monsters with better alternatives open to me, a bricky as SHIT monster lineup that wouldn't work in any regular duel and I run six different ranks!
I could legit play 14 duels in a row without using the same cards twice and keep pulling out new ways to play and forcethe game state in different directions and give myself alternativewin conditions
I can't even summon my main boss monster unless I use TWO specific cards, both pretty bad, and I need a specific combo of ranks on the field in case of Xyz universe
Meanwhile, these guys can go play online and actually have not a single issue
EDIT: If you want another example, way back when there was another freeform YGO RP where I ran a deck that had no level 4 or lower monsters. It also didn't constrain itself to one archetype. The ace was Berserk Dragon, a notoriously bad card. The deck ran Anti-Magic Prism for crying out loud, that's how gimmicky and stupid fun it was.
Everyone's free to choose whatever cards they want and create any three custom cards. Nobody forced you to make your deck the way it is.
...Yes, bad decks are fun. Look at the anime and just try to make a functional deck out of the cards they use.
Even a well constructed deck can be fun if it allows for some back and forth. Most of these don't, though. Zombie Synchro and Skull servants seem like the only two that do.
Like, if I join a YGO RP, I don't join to play the actual game. I join to recreate the anime hype moments of dumping a big dumb monster and crashing it into your big dumb monster, or topdecking into some obscure 8-card combo you'd never pull off IRL.
If you want to play good, competetive decks go play YGOPro percy/YGOpro devpro or go to IRL locals.
EDIT: I'll clarify a bit more. What makes a deck fun to write out in an RP setting isn't the scale on how good it is, it's how hype it can write itself out. If your deck is some OTK deck that just wants to end it in one turn, that's kinda boring and stale. If it's a floodgate deck that locks you down, then it doesn't make for an interesting duel. If it's something that plays for too long that gets really, really boring to read.
You want something that gets to the point fast and sticks to its guns. The level 5 or higher deck was all about summoning big monsters quickly and replacing them with bigger monsters if they went down, never letting up on high ATK value. The Xyz deck is about being unpredictable and summoning really cool Xyz monsters using a random assortment of monsters, all the while backing it up with thematically fitting cards.
If I were to take something I haven't played, let's go with... Ah, what the hell, Dragon Rulers. There's two ways you could go about it: Rank 7 spam like we're back in the old format, or keeping 1-2 rulers on the field at the time, maybe go into an Xyz, but leaving room for your opponent to counterplay.
The former would be boring as the deck would crush everything, but the latter would be fun because big dumb dragons fighting other dumb monsters and then coming back to fight some more.
Well. I can't force others to use decks they don't want- trust me- I tried. I'd enforce a banlist or whatever, but I've already stated my reasoning as to why I won't.
That said, if I were playing a lower powered deck, I wouldn't call it unfun as much as I would call it a challenge, figuring outs in my dingy deck to their boss monsters. Like so. I don't know how into recording so sorry in advance for the awkward resolution.
Hey, just found this, but @Ammokkx do you really have any right to talk about "dumb fun decks" when your deck is generic rank 4 spam setup with zero thematic coherence? I mean, this is just me, but from where I'm standing it kinda looks like you came here under the impression that you could steamroll with your tcg skills and, now that you can't, you're getting frustrated and attempting to ruin the mood; but, then again, I've always thought Yugioh was less about actually winning card games and more of a contest to see who can be the most egotistical person in the room at any given time.
I mean, Yusei virtually never lost, but that still didn't make him a fun or interesting character in the slightest. On the other hand Chazz/Manjoume was the best character in his season by a country mile and he was a horrendous jobber with a deck that existed to mildly annoy people most of the time. Which isn't to say jobbers are inherently better, Kaiba hardly ever jobbed and was the best character in his show. What I'm saying is, the actual cardgames have always been more of a vehicle for high-impact smugness than anything else and the actual quality of your decklist has no impact on how much of a ham you are while playing it.
@1Charak2 Makes something of a fair point but holy shit dude, you're running Traptrix. That's, like, the epitome of nofunallowed spoiling tactics- which is perfectly fine, Yugioh has plenty of characters and decks like that. Hell, I'm playing a deck like that, too. But can you really say with a straight face that Trap Hole The Meta is an archetype that fits well into casual play and is enjoyable to go up against?
Anyway, just my two cents on this whole thing, here's my character @KOgaming.
Name: Princess Marina Viktoriya Kohut, Lord Sovereign of Cardboard Castle Sex: F Age: 18 House: A Dumpster Behind Dark Magician House
Duel Disk: A bootleg Duel Coat-style setup, it consists of a groin-mounted Solid Vision projector and a small arm that holds the duel disk oriented horizontally, like a small waist-height table. It somewhat resembles a lower-tech version of Jakob's crotch-mounted cyberdisk from 5ds.
Personality: Marina possesses unshakable confidence and an ego approximately the size of Jupiter. She is self-satisfied and utterly convinced of her superiority on a level surpassed only by the likes of Kaiba himself, and considers most other humans to be lesser lifeforms. This would all be a lot more understandable if she wasn't a filthy hobo who smells like raw sewage, but as it is she just comes off as delusional. That being said, Marina is also a person who firmly believes that anything truly worth doing should be done with one's own two hands, and her work ethic is genuinely impressive.
History: Marina hails from the Ukraine, a hotly-contested radioactive hellhole of a country plagued by tentacle-faced subhumans and physics-disrupting anomalies, as everyone knows. What's less well known is that almost all conflicts in Ukraine are decided by Duel Monsters, as bullets and first-aid supplies must be reserved for purging the terrifying mutants that lurk in the marshes and forests of the region. Marina herself was the daughter of local seamstress and town bicycle Nadiya Kohut, an excellent duelist and shrewd negotiator who ensured they had a decent, if humble, life. As a kid, Marina and the other local children would spend Sunday mornings watching cheap, badly dubbed foreign cartoons, young Marina's favorite being an obscure magical girl series localized as Extremely Pretty Child Olga, which taught little girls that anyone could be a princess if they tried hard enough.
Long story short, Marina took this to heart a little too hard and somehow got it into her head that, as long as she acted like a princess, people would at some point start treating her like one. Eventually, people got tired of putting up with her bullshit and exiled her. After years of long, harsh trials, repeating deportaions, and many a duel, Marina ended up getting shipped to Saotome Duel Institute so nobody had to put up with her anymore. They wouldn't pay for room and board, though, so Marina sleeps in a dumpster behind the dorms, proud ruler of her cardboard kingdom.
Wish: To be absolute monarch of the world, or at the very least the Ukraine.
Violet Duston Level 1 WATER Fiend Effect Monster 0/1000 Cannot be used as a Fusion, Synchro, or Xyz Material for a Summon. While this card is face-up on the field, it cannot be Tributed. When this card on the field is destroyed: Search your deck or graveyard for a trap card. Set that card on your side of the field. You can only control 1 face-up "Violet Duston".
Solar Legacy: Duston Cloud Level 1 DARK Fiend Effect Monster ????/1000 Cannot be used as a Fusion, Synchro, or Xyz Material for a Summon. While this card is face-up on the field, it cannot be Tributed. This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be special summoned by sending 1 "Duston" monster you control to the graveyard, or by the effect of "House Duston". While this card is on the field: Your opponent can only control as many monsters as you have "Duston" monsters on your side of the field. This card gains 500 attack for each Fiend-type monster on the field. When this card is destroyed: Special summon 1 "Duston" monster from your hand or graveyard.
Duston Collector Continuous Spell Shuffle all "Duston" monsters in your Graveyard into the Deck; Special Summon 1 "House Duston" from your Deck and equip it with this card. While this card is face-up on the field, you cannot Summon any monsters except "Duston" monsters. When this card leaves the field; you can add 1 "Starduston" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand.
Monsters House Duston x3 White Duston x3 Blue Duston x2 Red Duston x2 Yellow Duston x2 Green Duston x2 Violet Duston* x2 Starduston x2 Solar Legacy Duston Cloud* x1 Stygian Security x2 Masked Chopper x1
Spells Magicalized Duston Mop x2 Duston Collector* x2 Mystic Box x2 Wave-Motion Cannon x1 Harpie's Feather Duster x2 Opti-Camoflage Armor x1 Enemy Controller x2 Forbidden Lance x1 My Body As A Shield x1
Traps Duston Roller x3 Anti-Spell Fragrance x1 Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan x2 Dark Smog x1 Widespread Dud x1 Just Desserts x2 Ceasefire x2 Scrap Iron Scarecrow x1 Spatial Collapse x1
I'm going to play a bit of a Devil's Advocate here and say that it's not a terrible idea to do so. Submarineroid is a monster that switches to Defense mode after it attacks, so stopping the attack could be your way of keeping it in ATK mode to run it over with a monster right after. Yuta runs Shadow Spell, so knocking that ATK down to 100 to deal a massive hit next turn isn't a terrible idea, even if you'd rather save it for something bigger.
On another monster that doesn't pull the switcharoo, tho, it doesn't make much sense.
If there's at all a logical motive, sure. I'm just not expecting somebody to see a lone Submarineroid on my side of the field (and literally nothing else, as is usual for me), and say to themselves, "That bugger looks threatening enough to use a mirror force on," without a fair excuse for being so suspicious. If they use a naturally suspicious character, that's fine, but I hope to not see anybody who before blossomed with confidence to suddenly become wary of what most would view as a hopelessly pathetic move. What's more, my character typically exaggerates his attacks, turning his moves into a kind of seemingly innocent comedy meant to disarm other duelists and trick them into thinking he's just a moron. - - - P.S, That Shadow Spell sounds like a great idea. Keep it handy just for me.
Well. I can't force others to use decks they don't want- trust me- I tried. I'd enforce a banlist or whatever, but I've already stated my reasoning as to why I won't.
That said, if I were playing a lower powered deck, I wouldn't call it unfun as much as I would call it a challenge, figuring outs in my dingy deck to their boss monsters. Like so. I don't know how into recording so sorry in advance for the awkward resolution.
...You won in a single turn without much counterplay. This wouldn't look nice when written out, it'd be a boring duel. Same deal with animating it, it'd be a boring duel.
People complain about Arc-V's and ZeXal's duels for a reason (though I don't agree with the latter).
Ah, whatever. I'm just complaining for the sake of complaining. Carry on.
Hey, just found this, but @Ammokkx do you really have any right to talk about "dumb fun decks" when your deck is generic rank 4 spam setup with zero thematic coherence? I mean, this is just me, but from where I'm standing it kinda looks like you came here under the impression that you could steamroll with your tcg skills and, now that you can't, you're getting frustrated and attempting to ruin the mood; but, then again, I've always thought Yugioh was less about actually winning card games and more of a contest to see who can be the most egotistical person in the room at any given time.
...Uh, dude? I run 3 Rank 4's and it's not even the main focus of my deck. I'm trying to get to a custom rank 9 I can't even summon without using rank-up. I didn't expect, nor want to win every duel. In fact, I'm known for being a massive jobber. I do, however, care for well choreographed duels which I can't see happening with decks the way they are now.
I should probably mention that room and board aren't really a problem and that all the players get a room, but if you want your character to sleep in a dumpster, I still find that pretty amusing. Er. Character accepted.
I can continue the "fun" or "unfun" argument in PMs, though, @Ammokkx, while I can accommodate some to you, I can't force everybody to change their decks just because one person doesn't like the others. And on top of that, it's not your argument to be had. I asked for 1Chark2's argument. I'd say he's left, but I can see him among the users viewing this page.
Competitive or fun, that's always been a source for debate. However, arguing over the problem is utterly useless. There will always be people wanting to win, and there will always be people wanting to goof around. We can't pick and choose without isolating one group, so the only thing for it is to suck up and try to get as much personality and screen time as you can while you have it. Make an impression, do your best with what you've got.
I should probably mention that room and board aren't really a problem and that all the players get a room, but if you want your character to sleep in a dumpster, I still find that pretty amusing. Er. Character accepted.
I can continue the "fun" or "unfun" argument in PMs, though, @Ammokkx, while I can accommodate some to you, I can't force everybody to change their decks just because one person doesn't like the others. And on top of that, it's not your argument to be had. I asked for 1Chark2's argument. I'd say he's left, but I can see him among the users viewing this page.
Well, I wasn't really arguing in his place either. I did say these were my concerns.
And I kind of wanted to drop the subject anyway since it was getting nowhere. Just adressed the other guy quickly because he completely got me wrong and I wanted to set the record straight. I realized halfway through the argument was pointless 'cause the others naturally wouldn't change their deck just 'cause one guy complains, that'd be silly.
So, no need to continue in PMs. I wasn't going to drop it for such a silly reason anyway.
I couldn't tell you why Charak's viewing the page, tho.
EDIT: Contrary to what you may expect, I do agree with Doc Doctor on the post right above.
I mean, Yusei virtually never lost, but that still didn't make him a fun or interesting character in the slightest. On the other hand Chazz/Manjoume was the best character in his season by a country mile and he was a horrendous jobber with a deck that existed to mildly annoy people most of the time. Which isn't to say jobbers are inherently better, Kaiba hardly ever jobbed and was the best character in his show. What I'm saying is, the actual cardgames have always been more of a vehicle for high-impact smugness than anything else and the actual quality of your decklist has no impact on how much of a ham you are while playing it.
Hey, I liked Yusei. I'd go so far as to say he's my favourite protagonist, just from how his playstyle was always so combo-heavy, and with so many interlocking pieces of something that felt like a giant multilayered engine. I'm not going to say he didn't have his fair share of bullshit victories, especially near the end, but i liked Yusei and his rather quiet and taciturn style over a lot of the bombast of some other protagonists i could name.
