Well I haven't bought it -- not because of any SJW bullshittery (hell I enjoyed Rogue One), just because reviews are pretty genuinely awful. But allegedly you can't make a custom white guy.
I dont think the reviews are awful I think the general consensus is that its an above average game but ultimately a disappointment to the franchise. Most of the reviews seem to put it somewhere around 7/10
Plus I'd be genuinely interested to see where this was reported and how true it is. I mean unless they've literally put a game crashing glitch on the skin tone slider then I cant see how making a custom white male would be impossible. I'd also be interested to know if the narrative is that Bioware somehow did this on purpose because they hate white males (but not enough to not make the default main character a white male).
But to be clear, yeah I think the game is a bit lame too, and I'm not for a second saying everyone who dislikes the game is right wing or something. It really seem like most of these 'redpilled' critics don't even play mass effect.
Plus I'd be genuinely interested to see where this was reported and how true it is. I mean unless they've literally put a game crashing glitch on the skin tone slider then I cant see how making a custom white male would be impossible. I'd also be interested to know if the narrative is that Bioware somehow did this on purpose because they hate white males (but not enough to not make the default main character a white male).
It's true. The narrative was never "SEE HOW RAYSIST THEY ARE!!!" it was more like "....lol, and to top it off, this? You can't make this shit up."
Well I haven't bought it -- not because of any SJW bullshittery (hell I enjoyed Rogue One), just because reviews are pretty genuinely awful. But allegedly you can't make a custom white guy.
You can absolutely make a custom white guy. You can make a custom <insert skin color here> guy. It's also like the rare game to get Asian characters right in terms of customization.
The game's fine, it just starts off pretty poorly and there's only been one great Mass Effect game anyway. Andromeda is pretty much the evolution of BioWare story telling since they realized more people care about who they can fuck in the game rather than anything else. But also there's the most hilariously awful and tone deaf trans character in Andromeda that I almost have to give them credit for doing something so poorly written and handled.
I dont think the reviews are awful I think the general consensus is that its an above average game but ultimately a disappointment to the franchise. Most of the reviews seem to put it somewhere around 7/10
I don't know how the consensus of 7/10 measures as "pretty disappointing." 5/10 is an average, mediocre game. by that metric, 7/10 is quite above average.
As far as I've played, the Bioware Standard Plot of "Hey, I need help/find a guy, but I have to help/investigate these 3-4 other groups/people/plants before they can help me" doesn't seem to be that apparent so far, but I've only just recruited Jaal. Combat is pretty fun. Which is important, no matter what babbies cry about. If a game isn't fun, if the mechanics are shit, I'm not sticking around for the gr8 stooree.
As for the story, I like it. I like that, as far as I've played, there's no galaxy shattering problems to worry about, just finding the arks/planets and dealing with the kett/anagara conflict along with investigation the Remnant. It's all localized and personal.
But these are first impressions. I see the animation problems but they don't bother me, specifically. I find bad voice acting more egregious than bad animations, and so far bad VA is few and far between.
I don't know how the consensus of 7/10 measures as "pretty disappointing." 5/10 is an average, mediocre game. by that metric, 7/10 is quite above average.
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I dont think the reviews are awful I think the general consensus is that its an above average game but ultimately a disappointment to the franchise. Most of the reviews seem to put it somewhere around 7/10
Yeah I kinda said that.
Its disappointing as a mass effect game as its one of the most celebrated franchises of the last console generation. 7/10 is a step down for the standards they set.
there's only been one great Mass Effect game anyway.
"It's a good game, just not a good mass effect game."
I've so far felt it's been a worthy send up. I expected it to not "FEEEEEEL" like a Mass Effect game because we're outside of the Milky Way and thus outside of the greater established Mass Effect mythos.
"It's a good game, just not a good mass effect game."
I've so far felt it's been a worthy send up. I expected it to not "FEEEEEEL" like a Mass Effect game because we're outside of the Milky Way and thus outside of the greater established Mass Effect mythos.
Ryder, the 20-something dork who is stepping into shoes she can't possibly fill who has spent 600 years asleep and has millions of lives on her shoulders, is not suave. More at 11. Game sux.
Ryder, the 20-something dork who is stepping into shoes she can't possibly fill who has spent 600 years asleep and has millions of lives on her shoulders, is not suave. More at 11. Game sux.
Mass Effect 2 is fun filler with a witty script and a thrilling-ish final mission a 'great' game does not make.
Maybe 20 seconds wasnt convincing enough.
And apart from being asleep for 600 years I'm pretty sure shepard was a 20 something with the universe on his/her shoulders, managed to have conversations that didnt seem to be lifted out of an early episode of Stargate SG1
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Mass Effect 2 is fun filler with a witty script and a thrilling-ish final mission a 'great' game does not make.[quote]
I didn't say Mass Effect 2.
I said "There has been one great Mass Effect game". I stand by that.
Maybe 20 seconds wasnt convincing enough.
No no, I've seen the meme videos and everything and I still think the game isn't a dumpster fire of a disaster of a travesty because it's not Witcher 3 or whatever it is the popular gaming culture subreddits and boards cream the jeans over while spouting off about cuckoldry.
Andromeda is on par with what BioWare has been putting out since, oh, Dragon Age 2. Except the shooty shooty bits are an improvement. When a new team comes together and deals with leavings and layoffs and the collective pressure of people that put 10/7/5 year old games they put on pedestals breathing down their necks well here we are. That people are being all "7/10 WORST EVER" speaks to why gamers are the worst people with the worst hobby.
And apart from being asleep for 600 years I'm pretty sure shepard was a 20 something with the universe on his/her shoulders, managed to have conversations that didnt seem to be lifted out of an early episode of Stargate SG1
Ryder is not Shepard and Shepard also had his share of lines that weren't exactly Shakespeare. Shepard was never exactly the most fleshed out character until they tried to make him more human in ME3 to disastrous results. He was effectively a blank slate for the player with only the briefest of personal histories that didn't really impact anything outside of incidental dialog. Ryder is a far more realized character, both Scott and Sara have different backgrounds and pasts that relate them back to the Initiative and their dad. Their dad is effectively Shepard. Ryder, in contrast to Shepard, is not a blank slate.
Shepard was a badass military man even before he was a Spectre. Scott was just a grunt man stationed at an outpost watching others do better in the military than him. Sara was pretty much a geek that did Prothean archaeological digs with her team. Sara's literally like ME1 Liara in that she's a nerdy awkward person. Only Liara never had the pressures of lives depending on her in the same way Ryder does. Both have parent issues. Both are awkward around the people they want to bone.
Not everyone in the galaxy has the monotone charisma of Shepard.
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Mass Effect 2 is fun filler with a witty script and a thrilling-ish final mission a 'great' game does not make.
I didn't say Mass Effect 2.
I said "There has been one great Mass Effect game". I stand by that.
Maybe 20 seconds wasnt convincing enough.
No no, I've seen the meme videos and everything and I still think the game isn't a dumpster fire of a disaster of a travesty because it's not Witcher 3 or whatever it is the popular gaming culture subreddits and boards cream the jeans over while spouting off about cuckoldry.
Andromeda is on par with what BioWare has been putting out since, oh, Dragon Age 2. Except the shooty shooty bits are an improvement. When a new team comes together and deals with leavings and layoffs and the collective pressure of people that put 10/7/5 year old games they put on pedestals breathing down their necks well here we are. That people are being all "7/10 WORST EVER" speaks to why gamers are the worst people with the worst hobby.
Do you think the first one is the best? The action aspect of the gameplay is barely functional but its my favorite out of the trilogy. I wouldn't say its a great game but its definitely an important game to the genre. 3 has the best gameplay but the plot is extremely newcomer unfriendly and some of the story telling is a bit weird.
I dont think for second ME Andromeda is a shit game, I think its an average to enjoyable game that has more problems than it really should. I do think Dragon Age 2 is a piece of shit though but thats a discussion for another time.
I learned a lot in high school English, from this pretentious teacher that forced us to break down things and analyze them to the point of joylessness.
It taught me to just go and read the book, listen to the album and play the game.
The principle continues to sustain me as now various sociopolitical factions start to review things through the lens of their ideological dogma.
As they say in Jersey; fuck outta here with that.
If I don't like it, I can close the book, stop listening to the album and abandon the video game. And in the process, I learn something about what I don't like.
PS/Edit: I'm just playing the game and enjoying it, instead of worrying about what it doesn't do or what each component symbolizes. I try to avoid overthinking my fun.
Mass Effect 2 is fun filler with a witty script and a thrilling-ish final mission a 'great' game does not make.
I didn't say Mass Effect 2.
I said "There has been one great Mass Effect game". I stand by that.
Maybe 20 seconds wasnt convincing enough.
No no, I've seen the meme videos and everything and I still think the game isn't a dumpster fire of a disaster of a travesty because it's not Witcher 3 or whatever it is the popular gaming culture subreddits and boards cream the jeans over while spouting off about cuckoldry.
Andromeda is on par with what BioWare has been putting out since, oh, Dragon Age 2. Except the shooty shooty bits are an improvement. When a new team comes together and deals with leavings and layoffs and the collective pressure of people that put 10/7/5 year old games they put on pedestals breathing down their necks well here we are. That people are being all "7/10 WORST EVER" speaks to why gamers are the worst people with the worst hobby.
Do you think the first one is the best? The action aspect of the gameplay is barely functional but its my favorite out of the trilogy. I wouldn't say its a great game but its definitely an important game to the genre. 3 has the best gameplay but the plot is extremely newcomer unfriendly and some of the story telling is a bit weird.
I dont think for second ME Andromeda is a shit game, I think its an average to enjoyable game that has more problems than it really should. I do think Dragon Age 2 is a piece of shit though but thats a discussion for another time.
I do indeed think the first one is the best. Mass Effect 1 had the most...let's call it realized...vision. It's not perfect, no game is, but there was nothing quite like it in video games at the time. That sense of exploration, that sweeping space opera style narrative and presentation, the way the world felt realized and lived in with politics and conflicts showing that this idyllic looking galaxy wasn't exactly pristine. The story was the most consistent and contained with things like the conversation with Sovereign and the use of the song Vigil being highlights not just for the series but gaming as a whole.
Mass Effect 2 comes off as a filler arc in its own trilogy with no real purpose or relevancy other than the Collector reveal. It introduces concepts and lets them go nowhere. It improved the shooting but at the expense of dropping the deeper RPG mechanics and exploration. It offered a view of the non-Citadel aspects of the galaxy but all the areas felt less...immersive since they were clearly divided into combat arenas and not. That the game pretty much forced players to stick to Paragon/Renegade to ensure the best possible result turned interactions and roleplay into a binary option. Why would Miranda or Jack not give it their all because the other hurt their feelings and you didn't invest enough Blue/Red points to say something? It made a lot of the decisions hollow. ME2 has some okay character moments but it's pretty inessential as far as sequels go.
Mass Effect 3 improved upon the gameplay and the paragon/renegade system but sort of neutered the conversation aspect further. Mass Effect 3 attempted to tie up pretty much everything even if it meant it came at the expense of established characters and plots. Illusive Man became just a simplified villain. Ashley/Kaiden returned to their "DON'T TRUST YOUUUU" ways for most of it. Their attempts to add depth to Shepard's struggle was laughable. But it also had genuine moments that were only possible because of the characters built up over the games. Like Mordin and the elevator or just shooting guns with Garrus. It is a deeply flawed game but like ME 2 it has good character moments, which is why Citadel is such a wonderful piece of DLC and the perfect coda to Shepard and Friends.
Both 2 and 3 lost, to me, what made Mass Effect 1 such a fantastic experience. It improved the moment to moment gameplay but it came at the expense of the charm and sense of awe that came with every location in Mass Effect. You lost that in 2 when side quests were just shuttles down to a combat arena and in 3 side quests boiled down to scanning and eavesdropping. 2 and 3 felt less like Mass Effect and more like a shooter in space. They are both good games in their own right, it's just that Mass Effect 1 is such a great experience.
The whole collectors plot really doesn't mean much of anything in the grand scheme of things, they are just another baddie faction being controlled by the reapers. Apart from the human colony abductions to build that ridiculous terminator they weren't posing any sort of threat to the universe that the was some how more pressing than the reapers.
Mass Effect 2 has a Dark and funny script with a some cool characters, but the whole game is essentially a glorified side quest.
The whole collectors plot really doesn't mean much of anything in the grand scheme of things, they are just another baddie faction being controlled by the reapers. Apart from the human colony abductions to build that ridiculous terminator they weren't posing any sort of threat to the universe that the was some how more pressing than the reapers.
Mass Effect 2 has a Dark and funny script with a some cool characters, but the whole game is essentially a glorified side quest.
Just like New Vegas.
I always felt like the characters were the main focus of Mass Effect 2, not exactly the Reaper part. and it's not just 'some cool characters', most of the quests you have are recruitment and loyalty missions. ME2 isn't filler, it just doesn't focus on the Reaper conflict as much as it does Shepard and their crew.
