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Be as visceral as you please. As for running around the nude, that is also fine, as long as your writing doesn't carry any sexual implications (not that I think it will).


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I'd like to submit my CS, which is virtually the same.



e: I notice the status is set to "Full". If the current number of people is at the sweet spot, that's totally cool too.
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That's just for any absolute newcomers. Welcome aboard, @Iuniper. Accepted.
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I'll have my post up tomorrow for certain.
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@Dismas So, I just want to ask something about Alaron. You say in his CS that he's a decent shot with a bow but struggles with a chin up. Assuming the type of bow he's using is powerful enough to kill an elk, the draw weight would be 50-60 pounds (22 - 27 kg). Now as I'm sure you're aware, the bow is a weapon that requires the use of shoulders and back. Being a decent shot with a bow (meaning more often than not, you hit what you're aiming at) would require hours of practice, building the muscles in the shoulders and back to comfortably fire the weapon. So when you say Alaron would have trouble with a chin-up, I seem to find myself disagreeing. Now there is a difference between a chin-up and a pull-up. A chin-up engaging the biceps primarily, with palms facing towards you. A pull-up engages back and shoulders, with palms facing outwards. So it could be believable he can't do a chin-up, but I find it very hard to believe. He can definitely do a pull-up. Just something to think about, I'm not trying to harp on your character in any way. I just like talking about fitness and weapons in RPs
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@Dismas So, I just want to ask something about Alaron. You say in his CS that he's a decent shot with a bow but struggles with a chin up. Assuming the type of bow he's using is powerful enough to kill an elk, the draw weight would be 50-60 pounds (22 - 27 kg). Now as I'm sure you're aware, the bow is a weapon that requires the use of shoulders and back. Being a decent shot with a bow (meaning more often than not, you hit what you're aiming at) would require hours of practice, building the muscles in the shoulders and back to comfortably fire the weapon. So when you say Alaron would have trouble with a chin-up, I seem to find myself disagreeing. Now there is a difference between a chin-up and a pull-up. A chin-up engaging the biceps primarily, with palms facing towards you. A pull-up engages back and shoulders, with palms facing outwards. So it could be believable he can't do a chin-up, but I find it very hard to believe. He can definitely do a pull-up. Just something to think about, I'm not trying to harp on your character in any way. I just like talking about fitness and weapons in RPs


I shoot a 50 lb bow as a rather small, scrawny girl (just got back from range shooting, actually). I haven't tried pull/chin-ups in a while but am pretty certain I couldn't do one. So it is unlikely, but definitely possible, speaking from personal experience. .. Hahaha. :/
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Given this question I'd have to parrot a bit of what @Iuniper mentioned. I've shot bows as well (Don't remember the poundage) and while it's tiring it isn't a feat reserved for Olympians.

To clarify, the chin-up metaphor should've been more closely compared to a feat of pulling yourself up whilst dangling off a cliff. The point is that Alaron is weak and would likely get beaten up if he tried to fight most people.

With regards to use of a bow and Alaron's accuracy it's basically what it says on the tin, a decent shot. While true even becoming decent requires hours of practice, hours seem insignificant when stretched over the course of years. Nothing rigorous of course, a few shots here or there once ever month or two I feel is enough to become competent at it. To speak on strength taking a few shots with a simple bow isn't too much to ask from even a weak person. I'd argue strength becomes a factor when holding a shot for extended periods of time, sustaining numerous shots in a battle situation, or pulling the draw on a massive warbow.
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I wasn't implying that you'd need to be an Olympian to shoot a bow of that weight. I've known a few people who can shoot that weight easily and are not in the best shape. What I'm saying is, Alaron is skinny is he not? Typically, it is easier for thin people to do pull-ups/chin-ups even when they're not muscle bound because they don't have to lift as much weight. While I can believe that even with sporadic practice, Alaron could become decent with a bow, I find it hard to believe that he could not pull himself up.

In addition to this, a bow that is designed to kill Man or Mer (based on the English Longbow) is anywhere from 70-90 lbs of draw weight. OR, if we were to base the draw weight on the infamous Mongolian bows, 100-160 lbs (Insanely powerful).

So the real question here, is what type of bow does Alaron typically use? If it were a hunting bow (50-60) I could believe him not able to do many pull-ups/chin-ups, but I insist he would be able to do at least one. If he uses bows designed for war, he would definitely be a lot stronger. But from what you describe of him, it seems he favors the lighter hunting bow.
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I wasn't implying that you'd need to be an Olympian to shoot a bow of that weight. I've known a few people who can shoot that weight easily and are not in the best shape. What I'm saying is, Alaron is skinny is he not? Typically, it is easier for thin people to do pull-ups/chin-ups even when they're not muscle bound because they don't have to lift as much weight. While I can believe that even with sporadic practice, Alaron could become decent with a bow, I find it hard to believe that he could not pull himself up.

In addition to this, a bow that is designed to kill Man or Mer (based on the English Longbow) is anywhere from 70-90 lbs of draw weight. OR, if we were to base the draw weight on the infamous Mongolian bows, 100-160 lbs (Insanely powerful).

So the real question here, is what type of bow does Alaron typically use? If it were a hunting bow (50-60) I could believe him not able to do many pull-ups/chin-ups, but I insist he would be able to do at least one. If he uses bows designed for war, he would definitely be a lot stronger. But from what you describe of him, it seems he favors the lighter hunting bow.


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I wasn't implying that you'd need to be an Olympian to shoot a bow of that weight. I've known a few people who can shoot that weight easily and are not in the best shape. What I'm saying is, Alaron is skinny is he not? Typically, it is easier for thin people to do pull-ups/chin-ups even when they're not muscle bound because they don't have to lift as much weight. While I can believe that even with sporadic practice, Alaron could become decent with a bow, I find it hard to believe that he could not pull himself up.

In addition to this, a bow that is designed to kill Man or Mer (based on the English Longbow) is anywhere from 70-90 lbs of draw weight. OR, if we were to base the draw weight on the infamous Mongolian bows, 100-160 lbs (Insanely powerful).

So the real question here, is what type of bow does Alaron typically use? If it were a hunting bow (50-60) I could believe him not able to do many pull-ups/chin-ups, but I insist he would be able to do at least one. If he uses bows designed for war, he would definitely be a lot stronger. But from what you describe of him, it seems he favors the lighter hunting bow.

As someone who can't do a chin/pull-up and shoots 50lbs, I beg to differ, as much as I hate admitting that I'm weak. (For science!) English longbows were as heavy as 180 lbs of draw weight, though I don't know anyone personally that shoots more than 125 just because it is incredibly exhausting and kind of dangerous. From my experience, most modern Mongolian Horsebow users only shoot 40 to 60 lbs which is still pretty powerful.

In my opinion, Alaron probably uses a standard barebow given that that's the only type available in the game.
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As someone who can't do a chin/pull-up and shoots 50lbs, I beg to differ, as much as I hate admitting that I'm weak. (For science!) English longbows were as heavy as 180 lbs of draw weight, though I don't know anyone personally that shoots more than 125 just because it is incredibly exhausting and kind of dangerous. From my experience, most modern Mongolian Horsebow users only shoot 40 to 60 lbs which is still pretty powerful.

In my opinion, Alaron probably uses a standard barebow given that that's the only type available in the game.


We must have wildly different sources in draw weight, (I was referring to the Khan era of Mongolian Archers) as for English Longbow, I could have been misinformed...

*Checks other websites*

So it seems I was! Apparently English Longbows were very versatile in their draw weights. If Alaron does use a barebow, I am not sure if that would not be enough to kill someone. But that's hardly the point of conversation here. I have not shot a bow in many years, but I do workout often (My ship date for USMC bootcamp is in 5 months) so it just caught my attention. I was also not even a teenager the last time I shot a bow, so children are weaker than grown men :p

Regardless, I'll stop harping on about it. It is a universe where elves and trolls exist, so I'll try not to add too much realism to it.
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Yeah, let's not worry about draw weight too much in a universe where a race of scrawny elves are the best archers of all time.

Also, don't feel like you have to wait for me to post. I'd like for your characters to engage in some conversation while they wait for nightfall (or whatever it is they feel like doing). Hector already knows everyone.
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Yeah, let's not worry about draw weight too much in a universe where a race of scrawny elves are the best archers of all time.


Which I'm not sure actually has anything to do with draw weight, I'd say being the best archers has more to do with practise and repetition a la the Welsh/English long bowmen. :P

Then again...


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Yeah, let's not worry about draw weight too much in a universe where a race of scrawny elves are the best archers of all time.


I always thought Bosmer were chimpanzee strong, you know, like chimpanzees

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Also, don't feel like you have to wait for me to post. I'd like for your characters to engage in some conversation while they wait for nightfall (or whatever it is they feel like doing). Hector already knows everyone.


Reiterating the above. I'm currently knee-deep in some other RP stuff and have a busy Sunday/week ahead. By all means, play with each other while daddy's gone to work.
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Movealong post from me coming tomorrow/early next week. We'll depart with the crew we have.

EDIT: Scratch that, it's going to be later this week. My time has been hijacked by visitors and national holidays.
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I've bit off more than I can chew, again. Can no longer find the deep inspiration and mojo necessary for such a campaign. Being co-admin doesn't help. Sorry to letting y'all down once more.
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