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@Cu ChulainnI stand corrected but not by too much. His only other appearance is Capsule Hero according to his wikipedia page and even the page itself directly says he is a fate/grand order lancer. A tower defense game for the Vita. It's not much of a reference point to make conclusions off of. I'll give Turbo the reign to do over this as he pleases. I'd argue my favors more but I'll bow to his judgement on this one. I've been doing that a lot recently but both Turbo, and i have put too much effort into making this roleplay a thing to blow it up in an argument while not looking like a hypocrite for rocking a Saber that's almost the equivalent of Heracles in stats.
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@Cu ChulainnHis only other appearance is Capsule Hero

He was originally intended for Apocrypha, and recieved a full layout of his skills/stats/NPs in the Material Guide. He really isn't just an "FGO Servant", similar to how Kintoki and George aren't either.
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I only have the very bare bones of my other Lancer concept, and it'd take me time to actually put it through into something satisfying that would actually help the team.

I'd much rather prefer True!Benkei mainly because I want to see his dynamic with the other Servants and Masters introduced so far. I'm very much aware, especially from the source it's based off of, that this roleplay is a PvE-centric one, but I'm also sure we're in it to make a story. I'm fine if someone finds a sensible way to escape Benkei's duel NP. I'm fine if the enemy has plot armor against Benkei's Dread Visage. I'm fine with pretty much everything that would make the enemy an actual threat to us. I just wanted to play as a Heroic Spirit, with all the badassery it's supposed to entail, with a character that would interact with the current (and future) cast in an interesting sort of way.

I'm not trying to power play, but it's just that, as you said, we stole artifacts that would belong to pretty strong Servants, and I myself want to play an actual true Heroic Spirit, not some obscurity that just barely manages to be qualified as one.

But if this really is too much of a conflict, I'll just find some other Lancer after all.

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Actually, he was designed in the same mindset as the other Apocrypha Servants, since they intended him to make him for Apocrypha before they made it into a Light Novel.
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I don't really care either way about the power balance stuff. I'm actually of the belief that the Servants should all be pretty strong given the framework of the premise and have the "weaker links" pulled up, but that's neither here nor there.

@Cu Chulainn I'd be willing to help you spitball ideas for your other Lancer concept if you end up going with it.
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I only have the very bare bones of my other Lancer concept, and it'd take me time to actually put it through into something satisfying that would actually help the team.

I'd much rather prefer True!Benkei mainly because I want to see his dynamic with the other Servants and Masters introduced so far. I'm very much aware, especially from the source it's based off of, that this roleplay is a PvE-centric one, but I'm also sure we're in it to make a story. I'm fine if someone finds a sensible way to escape Benkei's duel NP. I'm fine if the enemy has plot armor against Benkei's Dread Visage. I'm fine with pretty much everything that would make the enemy an actual threat to us. I just wanted to play as a Heroic Spirit, with all the badassery it's supposed to entail, with a character that would interact with the current (and future) cast in an interesting sort of way.

I'm not trying to power play, but it's just that, as you said, we stole artifacts that would belong to pretty strong Servants, and I myself want to play an actual true Heroic Spirit, not some obscurity that just barely manages to be qualified as one.

But if this really is too much of a conflict, I'll just find some other Lancer after all.

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Actually, he was designed in the same mindset as the other Apocrypha Servants, since they intended him to make him for Apocrypha before they made it into a Light Novel.


*sighs* No. I'll approve Benkei if that's really how you feel. I understand the sentiment completely. I'm still going to be extra-strict with you though. I intend to hold you to what you just said about this being a PvE RP, because I do believe players should have a little more leeway in this situation.
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To be honest, even in the state he is right now, False Benkei is probably more formidable anyway, so I don't think that this Servant being "overpowered" is an issue. I mean, False Benkei has AoE instant kill and NP stealing stuff lol
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Wow this moves fast! Anyways yeah, sorry for the silence and delay, real life stuff has been hitting me hard. I'll try to see what I can get done, but yeah.
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Wow this moves fast! Anyways yeah, sorry for the silence and delay, real life stuff has been hitting me hard. I'll try to see what I can get done, but yeah.


No problem. Now you understand why I implemented the two-post rule for the IC ^^'
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@TurboshitterTurbo do we have a deadline for when we will make the In Character regardless of CS count?
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@TurboshitterTurbo do we have a deadline for when we will make the In Character regardless of CS count?


If absolutely necessary, we will start next Friday on the 18th. Hopefully everyone will have their CSes done by then, but if not, I doubt we'll get through the prologue so quickly that anyone who's almost finished with their sheets won't be able to jump in for the opening festivities.
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I've got a new Lancer panned out. More of a bursty fighter this time around...


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@Cu Chulainn I think I've got an idea of who that is. if so, Great choice.
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@Cu Chulainn
Does this mean you're not going with Benkei or?
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I'll give you a hint; he's Spanish. Should narrow it down, hopefully.

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Sadly, most likely, in the favor of making everybody happy.
If this guy turns out to be even worse than Benkei though, then I'll probably roll with Benkei after all
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@Cu Chulainn I myself haven't a clue (I'm crap at history ;P)

Though, I mean, I have one idea, but that's only because I had looked at him when I was considering making a Servant XD
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@Cu Chulainn My guess is either Cortes, Pizzaro or Leon, but then again my spanish history is a little rusty
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And he's up! Probably a lesser known conquistador, but still one of the first. Has a few interesting legends around him, like how he was believed to be a god.

If my reasoning for why Riding is a class skill of his isn't feasible, I could always move it to one of his Personal Skills and he'll still meet the max amount of skills.


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@Turboshitter
And he's up! Probably a lesser known conquistador, but still one of the first. Has a few interesting legends around him, like how he was believed to be a god.

If my reasoning for why Riding is a class skill of his isn't feasible, I could always move it to one of his Personal Skills and he'll still meet the max amount of skills.



Can I just ask, why does he have so many NP's...? The final one appears more rider then lancer and could easily be exempt since its purely more of a defensive skill which the first one covers.

In my opinion this one does a bit much as is

*At the very least give him the terrible lancer luck*
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@Cu ChulainnIf you're forgetting I'm a gm too. I'm not sure about him being able to use Centauro Fantasma in his current state. He's a lancer not a rider though I will not take issue with him possessing the rider's skill.

Ōllin Tōnatiuhrm seems fine though I'm not sure if it would reach Balmung levels. He is by your own admission a lesser known conquistador. Siegfried's Balmung is major legendary sword out of germany.
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