@Byrd Man@Letter Bee

You're both cleared to go when the formal RP goes up. If we agree to change the end-date of the Great War and if this means you need to undergo any serious changes then let me know so I can re-review.

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Based on that, I would say unfriendly with the US. A united Central America is a strong Central America, one that could choose to ignore US influence.

What would happen if we didn't ignore American influence? What if Central America was your puppet until the Second Civil War happened?

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What would happen if we didn't ignore American influence? What if Central America was your puppet until the Second Civil War happened?

I mean, it would still probably be tense after the US united.

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I mean, it would still probably be tense after the US united.

Yeah, I am fine with that.

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Yeah, I am fine with that.

Hands off dat canal, though.

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Hands off dat canal, though.

pls let me keep it </3 you are breaking my heart

oooo i am gonna get the canal. one way or the other

@The Spectre, I can smuggle you some ripoff Mosin-Nagants...

Despite thinking that stretching out WWI to 1929 is a bit silly for various reasons, I do have some interest. Unsure of who would be interesting to play in this scenario, though.

I was thinking the best way to do it is have the war peter out in 1920 due to political tension and revolution within the combatant nations. So the World War phase of it peters out and is replaced with the crisises that were already breaking out in IRL 1918. In this version, the "Great War" as a concept is extended into complicated interrelated domestic conflicts that could last a decade.

The main purpose of Great War on steroids is to destabilize Europe enough that it becomes sensible for us to do our own thing, and I think this scenario accomplishes this goal and makes sense.

Vilage brought that up privately with me and suggested that 1920 would be better, I sort of ran with the original "le war lasted eleven years longer

The war in the original lasted 11 years, not 11 years longer. 1925 was the end date in the original, and back then we were figured it was too long.

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You know how to make me happy.

Ayyy!

So how do you want to do this?
A Traditionalist vs Socialist split where its the Imperials vs the Communists or whatever?
The Imperial Conservatives vs the Modernists who want Japan to stop being so Jingo Japan?
People who like white rice vs people who like brown rice?

@ClocktowerEchos, Hey, willing to receive an embassy from me? I am sending someone to both you and China.

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Ayyy!

So how do you want to do this?
A Traditionalist vs Socialist split where its the Imperials vs the Communists or whatever?
The Imperial Conservatives vs the Modernists who want Japan to stop being so Jingo Japan?
People who like white rice vs people who like brown rice?

I'd just like to say I very much appreciate your Kurumi signature, I finished that anime yesterday lmao~

Aaaand here's the app. Entirely open to negotiation on the details, but I wanted to leave most everything surrounding me to be decided by negotiation between the relevant bordering powers, particularly Poland and the Baltic States. Also, if you want it longer, I can try, but there's only so much fluff you can add to a 5-year history.

Nation: Ukraine



Location (on map): Most of modern-day Ukraine minus the easternmost portions and Crimea, southern Belarus.


History:

After the assassination of the Tsar of the Russian Empire in 1952, the resulting tremors and quakes exposed the ever-present cracks in Russian society and state. New movements and old alike, Bolshevik and reactionary, republican and nationalist, took the opportunity to rise and compete for control over what became an increasingly fractured empire. This took some great time to build up to outright civil war and conflict, but when it did, the ideology which has proven itself by far the strongest of all human ideas was the first to take advantage of it. This ideology was nationalism. While the other forces certainly were at work in Ukraine, the common bonds of nationalism led to the Ukrainian nobility, bourgeoisie and peasants alike uniting for a brief time to secure their independence from an increasingly fragmented and shattering Russia. With the central government in disarray, the Ukrainian Provisional Assembly formally declared independence on December 14th, 1955, claiming all lands with a majority Ukrainian population. In reality, however, this would prove to not be the case, as further troubles loomed once the question of independence was settled.

On May 1st, 1956, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks staged a massive revolt centered in the major cities of Kiev and Kharkiv. They pronounced the formation of new Soviets, and the entire Provisional Assembly was executed in an effort to instill terror on the other segments of the population. However, the main forces of the army, still in control of the officer corps made up of the traditional nobility, were able to galvanize support in retribution for the Bolsheviks' actions. They surrounded Kiev and after a defiant yet brief defense by the Bolsheviks, Kiev was retaken. The commander of the army, Artem Yurijovych Solovski, seeking to cement the power structure and buoyed by a wave of popular support, was crowned Hetman of Ukraine by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church on June 25th, 1956. However, the Bolsheviks were able to retain their grip on power in northeastern Ukraine, and remain one of the primary antagonistic groups faced by the new Ukrainian monarchy.

Over the next three years, Hetman Artem Yurijovych struggled to lay the new foundations of power, but succeeded in doing so by fostering a close relationship with the ascendant capitalist class in Ukraine as ever greater numbers of former peasants came to the cities as nobles enclosed on communal farms in order to remain prosperous. A strong military-industrial complex was formed, catalyzed by intensive state investment and need for war materiel in ongoing skirmishes with bordering Russian splinter states, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks, and Tatar Crimea in the south. In the just-finished 1960 census, the Kingdom of Ukraine had a population of approximately 42 million people, mostly Ukrainians with a minority of Belarusians living in the northernmost, newly conquered regions. His rule was popularized by his highly jingoistic, patriotic speeches and efforts to recover the remaining land that he considered part of the de jure Ukrainian patrimony, and republican sentiment has been quelled by close relationships with the largest industrial magnates and a barebones constitutional framework governed by the legislature, the Verkhovna Rada. The monarchy, however, retains primary control and power to override its decisions.

In April of 1960, however, the 55-year old Hetman Artem suffered a stroke and after a few days of intensive care, died. His only heir, his 20-year-old daughter Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski, is set to assume the throne. The coronation was decided by the Rada to take place on June 25th, 1960. It remains to be seen whether such a young female successor can hold together the new monarchy her father had built.

Nation: The Danubian Federation / "Donauföderation"
Leader: Kaiser Franz Joseph Otto II
History: Austria-Hungary emerged from the Great War intact, but only in name. The Isonzo River ran red with the blood of untold Austro-Hungarians and Italians. The Hammer of the Brusilov Offensive nearly broke the entire empire. Only German intervention saved the crippled state. Despite success in the Balkans, the success in stalling the Italians, and the armistice with Russia... The K.u.K Armee was almost entirely run by their German neighbor in the North by 1920.

Though the fighting on the fronts had ended, the broken apparatus of the state was now all in the hands of Kaiser Karl I. Through very careful political manuvering and the granting of privledges to Croats, Bohemians, and Gallicians, The Empire was saved from imminnent collapse... for a short period. Reformed into the United States of Greater Austria. A confederated state. However in 1932, the Hungarian diet refused to acknowledge the rule of the Kaiser and the Imperial council. Tensions escalated very rapidly, and in 1934, the nation fell to civil war.

Though a minor conflict compared to the Great War, the age-old tensions had finally bursted through the old cracks and foundations. Through the next year, an uneasy alliance between Bohemians, Austrians, Croats, and Galliacians fought against Romanians, Hungarians, Serbians, and Bosnians in their attempts for full independence/reunifcation with their homelands. Due to constant infighting between the Hungarians and the Romanians, Romania itself eventually intervened in the war.

Securing Transylvania for itself, Romanaia was the first of the last blows that defeated the Hungarian Alliance. The Battle of Banat would be the final battle, with Austro-Bohemians forces defeated the final Bosnian force active in the field. The nation had barely survived, and it was proof the Karl and Archduke Otto that complete federalization was required. Other the course of the next decade, local governments were set up in provinces across the states. Reorganization of the "States" into "Principalities" was first. Each principality holding their own diet, with the combined diets each sending a two members to make up the lower house of the reformed Imperial Council. The Upper House being made of one elected politician, known as a "Prince."

Eventually, Kaiser Karl I died, and was succedeed by Archduke Otto. Crowning Himself as Kaiser Franz Joseph Otto II, he continued the project of his father, trying to unite the power of the Danube under a democratic Constituional Monarchy.

In 1949, the Kaiser proclaimed the United States of Greater Austria officialy defunct. The new Danubian Federation standing in it's place, a new empire where every culture had a voice had finally replaced Austria-Hungary... or so they say.

The Imperial Council is dominanted by Germans, who have outmanuevered their counterparts due to their relative inexpirence in politics. The "Transylvania Question" remains a hot button issue, with many romanians still within the Federation wishing reunification with Romania after they siezed most of Transylvania. Not to mention, the nation's constitution still gives the Kaiser final authority, capable to overuling the Council should he wish...

And a succession crises. Otto has one child, a young daugher of a year old. Yet, succession laws currently prohibit a daughter so young from taking the throne.

Will the new federation survive it's current troubles? Has it only prolonged the lifespan of the dying wish of Austria-Hungary? Potential remains, but much trouble lies ahead for the young nation.

((Have questions? Concerns? Feel free to ask! There are a few kinks I hope to work out IC, I just wanted to get this out there.))

Nation: Kingdom of Ukraine

Use the terms "Hetman" and "Hetmanate" with the Ukraine. It fits their identity more comfortably and makes it feel more Ukrainian. Practically speaking it doesn't necessarily change the function of your government in anyway.

Reserving France lads.

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Use the terms "Hetman" and "Hetmanate" with the Ukraine. It fits their identity more comfortably and makes it feel more Ukrainian. Practically speaking it doesn't necessarily change the function of your government in anyway.

"Hetman" has no historical or linguistic basis as a demonym or the name of a country, it's only titled that in historical terms because the general/military leader of that state was called the Hetman. It certainly holds no basis in a monarchy. If we're going to be entirely correct on that, it should be called the Kingdom of Zaporizhia.

And Zaporizhia, further, is only a region of southern Ukraine. It's a bit absurd to use a short-lived comparatively small Cossack state as the entire basis for a new Ukrainian kingdom.

To tell you the truth, I wanted to call it Galicia-Volhynia, as that has a much stronger historical basis even if it is further removed in time. I'd be happy to go with that if you think it's preferable.

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It does have historical, and by virtue of its use, a linguistic basis. Calling it the Kingdom of the Ukraine gives off an amateur NRP vibe since they've typically used the term Hetman in place of monarchical titles. Since you are creating a monarchy out of thin air, you're going to grab for the nearest comparable tradition, and the Cossacks got it.

Best way to play it is just call it "The Ukraine" with its leader titled as "Hetman"

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It does have historical, and by virtue of its use, a linguistic basis. Calling it the Kingdom of the Ukraine gives off an amateur NRP vibe since they've typically used the term Hetman in place of monarchical titles. Since you are creating a monarchy out of thin air, you're going to grab for the nearest comparable tradition, and the Cossacks got it.

Best way to play it is just call it "The Ukraine" with its leader titled as "Hetman"

To back this up: Ukrain puts strong emphasis on the Cossacks as part of their national legend. The entire basis of the founding of Ukraine is to Ukrainians on a romantic notion of the Cossack. There hasn't ever been a "kingdom" of Ukraine. Only Cossacks, and the unique Cossack heritage.

Hi I would love to take command of one of the fractured factions in Russia. In particular the white army in Crimea and surrounding area that Ukraine player hasn't claimed.