You can be pretty sure you are dealing with exactly the sort of person this policy is aimed at.
I should take some responsibility, I was fairly certain this was the case to begin with.
You can be pretty sure you are dealing with exactly the sort of person this policy is aimed at.
Clinical Information
A disorder characterized by a strong and persistent cross-gender identification (such as stating a desire to be the other sex or frequently passing as the other sex) coupled with persistent discomfort with his or her sex (manifested in adults, for example, as a preoccupation with altering primary and secondary sex characteristics through hormonal manipulation or surgery).
Clinical Information
Severe gender dysphoria, coupled with a persistent desire for the physical characteristics and social roles that connote the opposite biological sex. (apa, dsm-iv, 1994)
The urge to belong to the opposite sex that may include surgical procedures to modify the sex organs in order to appear as the opposite sex.
Clinical Information
A disorder characterized by recurrent sexual urges, fantasies, or behaviors in a heterosexual male involving cross-dressing.
Disorder characterized by recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving cross-dressing in a heterosexual male. The fantasies, urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other areas of functioning. (from apa, dsm-iv, 1994)
Severe gender dysphoria, coupled with a persistent desire for the physical characteristics and social roles that connote the opposite biological sex. (apa, dsm-iv, 1994)
The act of dressing like and adopting the behavior of the opposite sex, often for sexual gratification.
The urge to belong to the opposite sex that may include surgical procedures to modify the sex organs in order to appear as the opposite sex.
Clinical Information
A disorder characterized by a strong and persistent cross-gender identification (such as stating a desire to be the other sex or frequently passing as the other sex) coupled with persistent discomfort with his or her sex (manifested in adults, for example, as a preoccupation with altering primary and secondary sex characteristics through hormonal manipulation or surgery).
I did manage to get past the first paragraph of tortured prose.
The pun wasn't intended?! Why do you have to break my heart?
what specific rights transgender persons are so denied and how they so much deserve more than the rest of us.
DK?
I don't believe anyone has claimed trans people are asking for more rights than a cisgendered citizen.
I guess if you want to stretch and allow bathrooms to be strictly non-binary. If you claim to be "gender fluid", you now have more legal rights/access than your average citizen. And if you want to push someone with a mental health issue in the front lines of acceptance, label those that disagree with it as hateful, when military is strict to all health problems. It's kind of doing so, for a political agenda...
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I think the context is: If someone has gender dysphoria, they should be allowed to use the restroom they identify with.
I can see some potential problems if someone claims to be gender fluid, but that's just assuming the person is dishonest. And since there is no data that supports there have been any real issues in states that have allowed such things, then I'd say it's a nonissue.
Stick to the narrative that transgendered people are mentally ill, which means they should be allowed special privileges.
Or they are not mentally ill, which means all genders are fluid and validated.
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Just to point out really quick, I'm not one of those people that think, if you let transgenders use whatever bathroom they want legally based on just taking them at their word. That somehow, the transgenders will suddenly commit an endless spree of unspeakable actions with their actual disorder as a cover.
I'm someone who thinks, that perverted criminals, if given the option to get off scott-free with getting into their preferred bathroom of arousal. If all they need to do, to immediately not be punished, is to claim "i'm different I swear." Then just maybe out laws shouldn't be implemented so vaguely.
And what I just described, certainly isn't a non-issue.
But seriously, on the transgender military thing. No one currently in the military should be effected, and I don't think the law would have done so either. Not sure if the new one proposed is any different or even tangible. But ignoring the fact the military is strict and should be when accepting, is disingenuous. Which certainly feels like how that conversation was going.
The point, actually points, I am nodding to @SleepingSilence is in part addressing. In essence it is a matter of people getting added or preferential treatment at the cost of others because they are somehow "marginalized" or subject to a phobia fixture to their title or status. I gave ample argument how this advocacy makes zero sense in context, see the seemingly offensive practice of noting gender dysphoria is a mental illness and how I compared other disqualifying mental illnesses to it. It is very much a trendy, politically correct thing to do all while willingly ignoring all the others because they don't feel good in concept, @POOHEAD189.
I still would love to see someone attempt to argue those, that I admit. After all there is truly no realistic rebuttal to the fact they are, in essence, not all different for why they are disqualifying factors or how people treat some mental illnesses favorably over others because it just seems easier, rather is more politically convenient. Looking back, this all started in conversation that this move is somehow "trash" despite the recommendation being that the Department of Defense is willing to review potential candidates who meet their criteria, but reserve their right to decline them, as they do with others who might be promising avenues.
As an edit in address to the following quote;
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They deserve no such special treatment or privileges - see people with chronic depression or suicidal behavior. What they need is medical treatment or resolution of some sort for themselves, not special treatment at the expense of everyone else. The military is one of the last places this belongs, especially for those crying "but muh unit coheziun" crowd against this decision. The last thing the military needs is more special needs trainees or service members - it really does make achieving the mission more difficult.
The second is more or less just outlandish on its own in the context of psychology and psychiatry. When you represent roughly .6% of the adult population of the country and are not neuronormative, to borrow a loanword but related to one of my earlier examples, that is not normal. That is not how the system operates, especially not the military, and demanding the military play nice just so people feel included is stupid and how you end up with more bodies, be them at home or away.
They deserve no such special treatment or privileges - see people with chronic depression or suicidal behavior. What they need is medical treatment or resolution of some sort for themselves, not special treatment at the expense of everyone else. The military is one of the places this belongs not at all, especially for those crying "but muh unit coheziun" crowd against this decision. One of the very last things the military needs is more special needs trainees or service members - it really does make achieving the mission more difficult.
The second is more or less just outlandish on its own in the context of psychology and psychiatry. When you represent roughly .6% of the adult population of the country and are not following the standards of being neuronormative, to borrow a loanword but related to one of my earlier examples, that is not normal. That is not how the system operates, especially not the military, and demanding the military play nice just so people feel included is stupid and how you end up with more bodies, be them at home or away.
- Stick to the narrative that transgendered people are mentally ill, which means they should be allowed special privileges.
- Or they are not mentally ill, which means all genders are fluid and validated.
There's only one way to find out.
I know that seems like a lax stance when you are concerned about dangerous criminals, but then something something gun rights.
Do you have any proof that transgendered people make the military lesser quality.