@vancexentan

I altered up divine awareness to allow Yeshua to identify undead and demons. Onstentislly for the purpose of being able to notice when an undead or demon is hiding in disguise.

@Spriggs27Dude I'm not sure if that was intentionally meant to make me mad or not but to give you a straight up answer you want me to make sheets for the followings characters all in full?

Claudius, Yuna, Dolton, Marcus, The Grand Patriarch, The Twins (yet to be introduced), and Severnus? That's eight total character sheets. That's straight up crap if you do. I'm the GM I'm already in control of the setting if you need to know something about them that is common knowledge, or someone would know I'd be happy to tell you however expecting me to go in depth for each, and everyone of them is asking a lot. I think I've already made it clear with Grey that my ability to make a character isn't in question. This isn't counting characters that I have not thought up of yet, and intend to introduce later including plot relevant characters who will show up later such as in the devil's kingdom arc which will bring with them a slew of new characters.

I just think it's a little unfair that you can throw up pictures for a character, but everyone else needs to fill out an entire character sheet to make one instead of just throwing up a picture, some skills and some lore. Why should Everyone besides you have to fill out the cs for an npc even if you have over a dozen? And if we can only have 1 how come you get to have many? I know you are the Gm but it doesn't really seem fair for people to have to make another cs for a simple npc, would've been easier to have just made an Npc Character sheet.

Because I'm gm and I have to control the bloody story? You want are arce bellum to be a wasteland of petty bots who's whole purpose is to be faceless grunts with no names because you think I'm bull shutting everyone due to laziness? @Spriggs27 if I have to fill out everything for every single character for an entire guild that's be repetitive and pointless how many of them would you actually read?

I got to make sure powers are in check with player npcs. That's why a cs is required. Also I stated you CAN have more than one if you're in the empire why the flipping hell would you bring eight bots to a going away party inside someone else's guild hall which can still be raided.

If makes you happy I can just remove those silly pictures and leave them faceless if that settles the matter.

@Lucius Cypherthat's good enough for me you can let it through

@vancexentan I was suggesting that you should make a cs for the npcs, because having us go back through the character sheet process with a new character. Yeah I know your the Gm, but not having anything of a sheet for your npcs I know you have a lot of them but I was saying that you should have made something for them instead of a link to images, is it wrong to ask for the skills and abilities or jobs and classes they have and their levels?.

I'm just saying it seems wee bit unfair that you can keep their classes and jobs as unknown and we gotta put our stuff out there for everyone to see. And as a Gm, I'm feeling somewhat unwelcome to the rp Vance, I feel you have some sort of hostility towards me and I'm unsure why.

And what kind of of do you want from me for npcs? What makes their status different individually from a player? History and bio is irrelevant and thus why I made very little fuss with cypher's angel. Once again if you want info on tuna or Claudius or dolton then ill happily give it to you its no secret very little about them besides their ultimate moves ate hidden. As d
For why I'm hostile from my point of view you're throwing me under the bus as some sort of tyrant for something completely pointless for the story teller to do and then justifying it by trying to hold me to the same standard as a gm to adhere to the same standard as others that is to made sure no one sneaks in anything that could be abused. Which why would I abuse my npcs.

Claudius? Commander pure melee. Buffs people's skills and stuns. Dolton? Melee tank. Tuna? Mixed tank Templar. Severnus? Ranger assassin rogue.

@vancexentan Okay I wasn't making you out as a tyrant, how you perceive my words here are up to you really, I can't control how you suspect the tone of my post will be, but I'm not making you out as a tyrant. As for the cses I was meaning it as if you weren't gonna bother using the same cs format for your cs what's the point of making one for an box when the Gm himself isn't gonna bother making one do you understand what I'm saying?

I was gonna suggest you make a shortened version of your normal cs for npcs because i believe that the character sheet kinda has things that it doesnt really need like the morality thing when we have personality, you should be able to get some form of someone's morality through their personality and their actions in their history, not everyone is a cookie cut of the same dough and baked in the same oven.

@Stern AlgorithmThat sounds fair enough I suppose. I won't be a complete dick about every little thing.

Alright, I've changed the skill. roleplayerguild.com/posts/4706707

@vancexentan Okay I wasn't making you out as a tyrant, how you perceive my words here are up to you really, I can't control how you suspect the tone of my post will be, but I'm not making you out as a tyrant. As for the cses I was meaning it as if you weren't gonna bother using the same cs format for your cs what's the point of making one for an box when the Gm himself isn't gonna bother making one do you understand what I'm saying?

I was gonna suggest you make a shortened version of your normal cs for npcs because i believe that the character sheet kinda has things that it doesnt really need like the morality thing when we have personality, you should be able to get some form of someone's morality through their personality and their actions in their history, not everyone is a cookie cut of the same dough and baked in the same oven.

Morality is a scaleable thing in the Overlord universe. I simplified it by turning it into the normal DnD. In the universe it goes from -300 to 300 or roughly around that scale which makes it more difficult. Morality can't be scrapped both for mechanical reasons, skills effective against moral type enemies evil, or good, and personality doesn't fully encompass the morality scale. Hassan of Cursed Arm in the Fate/Stay Universe is chaotic/neutral evil yet he stalwartly in media that is not heaven's feel is commonly played out to be a relatively understanding, and or kind person who helps people. Momonga also is technically evil even though he himself has no interest in causing undue pain, and suffering only caring about the end result which could easily cross over into Chaotic Neutral, or even good.

I also move to call your bluff if I make a Cs FOR ALL the characters within non-spoiler limits will you step down from your position for good? I will do it just to end this dicussion for good.

@Stern Algorithm I believe the character is passable as he is now though I am not a fan of gravity magic I will allow the character through.

@vancexentan
Speaking of NPCs...

I was wondering If I could add one that will be nothing more of a plot device and friend of silver when the world gets real. I'll write up the CS, but she won't really have many or useful skills or be a high level. Just a servant to him and he role plays her as his squire that holds gear him. Basically a extra inventory space and does logistical stuff like upgrading weapons. Her only skills will be like buffs cutting down material costs, carry capacity, and upgrade times.

@FoxSoxsbasically what yuna is to grey which is fine by me

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Morality is a scaleable thing in the Overlord universe. I simplified it by turning it into the normal DnD. In the universe it goes from -300 to 300 or roughly around that scale which makes it more difficult. Morality can't be scrapped both for mechanical reasons, skills effective against moral type enemies evil, or good, and personality doesn't fully encompass the morality scale. Hassan of Cursed Arm in the Fate/Stay Universe is chaotic/neutral evil yet he stalwartly in media that is not heaven's feel is commonly played out to be a relatively understanding, and or kind person who helps people. Momonga also is technically evil even though he himself has no interest in causing undue pain, and suffering only caring about the end result which could easily cross over into Chaotic Neutral, or even good.

I also move to call your bluff if I make a Cs FOR ALL the characters within non-spoiler limits will you step down from your position for good? I will do it just to end this dicussion for good.

Vance, this is an rp not DnD we aren't doing dice rolls to do attacks, someone can constantly dodge someone else' attacks and run away if they wanted to, I know that the rp takes place in a game that's an rpg game but this isn't a DnD it's rpg, but if you say that our morality will aid us in the future of the rp then I'll simply wait to see it; but I will still say that you should see this as an rp first.

What position? I'm just trying to tell you make a shortened cs for npcs, I don't believe npcs need some of the things in the cs, like the how a normal human would see me, Bio/lore, and personality because right now as you said they don't have a personality or real free will, it would make a little more sense to have the npcs develop their personalities as the rp happens. I'd argue that they wouldn't need morality, but as you said yourself it's a mechanic that will come into play.

@vancexentan
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I'm gonna have to drop from this. Sorry man. I've got writer's block and I don't wanna hold up the group.

Hope you have fun!

You'll be missed, literally half of my characters backstory :P

@vancexentan
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I'm gonna have to drop from this. Sorry man. I've got writer's block and I don't wanna hold up the group.

Hope you have fun!

I'll see you in Valhalla bud, the drinks will be on you.

@kurokuif you're still interested rei's absence leaves a spot open

@Rekaiganthanks for at least notifying me good luck in future endeavors.

Just wondering whats the post minimum average besides the opening posts .-.

edit: Also I just saw season 3 ep 1. The opening song is uncannily ironic to my character XD

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