Now Xaiver Bloodbayne is one person, and lets remember that later on in that thread he aplogised for his words, you were present for that too correct?

That shouldn't be confused with thinking that everyone in the Arena acts like that outside of IC, you don't actually think that do you?

Well thanks for being honest, but people having one or two bad experiences in this forum and then using that as a way to call this entire sub-forum toxic is pretty prejudiced and short sighted.

@Dynamo Frokane

You ever saw the discord arena? You had a group of people who didn't participate in anything here shitting up the joint over stuff they personally didn't like. The arena is caked with some bullshittery off the jump and I experienced that just hosting a tournament on it. Inkarnate is trying to reason with you on the basis that the critiques of the arena shouldn't be taken any further than just that, but you cannot have both where you want insight but then snub commentary from others even if it's outside. You want to improve the arena?

Kick out Rilla. That's straight facts.

Your arena doesn't have an updated stats and no real uniformity. People can get away with stuff all the time at least up until a specific point. There's no incentive to play unless there was a tournament and 2 tournaments out of 3 failed miserably from 2017 to this year. There's no organization. Players don't want to compete and try-hard because it "isn't fun" but then likewise want to be in the arena -- a whole section dedicated to try-hards and winning. Arena regulars and its critics have the same issue and that's snobbery and elitism. There's an outreach missing because neither group gives it each other a chance. I had good interactions with Inkarnate and a few non-arena regulars as well as made new contacts with some of the arena players, but all of whom were nice, reserved, and easy going. Toxicity in "arena" play exist for a select group of people, but generally the rest of us can coexhist with one another even if we don't agree with each other. There's toxicity in the other sections (I got some info on that Expanding Horizons and nonsense pooling from other sections) so really it isn't a natively arena thing.

Start with redoing the entire stat section
Make Rilla step up or step out. Arena needs a moderator who wants to push things forward
Arena roleplay should be encouraged (story incentive for those who don't understand how free-form works)
Organization (get players to book matches, establish default rules if any, profile sheets)
Do something about players who aren't about that arena but contribute to its drama (one of those people were dealt with thanks guild)

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Alright aside from that nasty comment about kicking out Rilla, its time to sit down and discuss this with @Rilla

At the end of the day if you want Arena to be better you better start working with outsiders, noted regulars, and Rilla to make it inviting, enticing, and have options for more than one type of arena-type roleplayer. In short, you want it to be better? Make it better.

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It isn't anything more than a fact. Rilla does nothing with this section and he's barely around. Get someone who is and has ideas or listens to ideas about moving shit forward. I don't care about old guards, circle jerks, and status quo. I can leave Guild tomorrow and it'd effect me none, but take this as a person who ran a finished event here. I know exactly what I see.

Also, I'm going to start putting money where my mouth is and see if I can start actually RP-ing in the section on a more consistent basis. I've already got a pretty busy schedule, but I'm going to talk with some of these horrible outsiders and see what I can do. I grew up on action-oriented combat roleplays and moderated an Arena subforum on a popular message board. Maybe I should go back to my roots a little.

How about we go a round?

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If you have a pitch, I'll hear it out. We'll have to see if we're compatible and go from there.

Simple ranked 1 v 1 for two mid tier characters. We can do fantasy, martial arts, modern or sci-fi genre. Win conditions are incapacitated, killed or quitting opponent.

I'll pick the stage, you can pick who goes first.

Sound good?

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I haven't used tiers in over a decade, so I will have some research to do. But sure. As long as you're cool with posting activity being inconsistent – I have over eight roleplays to reply to this morning alone so you can imagine the agency of an arena fight will not exactly be at the highest of priorities.

But sure, I'll give it a shot.

I have a fantasy knight character with some above average fire magic abilities.

I'm not fighting any lolis, do you have an appropriate opponent?

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Alright Mobius, nothing you suggested about the Arena sounds like a bad idea, but are you telling the rest of the sub-forum how to imporve from the outside or are you willing to put this work in from the inside as an Arena RPer?

It's a lot easier to bark orders than it is to lift crates. I've been here long enough to know that.

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I have a fantasy knight character with some above average fire magic abilities.

I'm not fighting any lolis, do you have an appropriate opponent?

I wouldn't be challenging me to putting up or shutting up considering I can finish an event, bring activity here, and have a talent pool to match. You asked for advice on improvement from regulars so you're getting it.