Hidden 6 yrs ago 6 yrs ago Post by Parallel Hearts
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I think that Lancer Artoria would be fundamentally unsummonable even if it were from a Lostbelt due to the fact that she has never died. The Artoria of FSN is only summonable because of the contract she made with the world. Even if a similar contract was made with Lancer Artoria, she would not be summonable into this world, only her own world.


Very well then, if that's your opinion, I'll respect it even though I feel it's not very accurate to considering what's known about her.

At any rate, here's a second option:


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Man I forgot that Georgios had so many Noble Phantasms. I don't see any problem with Georgios myself, but please wait for the opinions of @Reflection and @Red Alice.

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I just noticed you lowered Georgios's Magic Resistance, you can put it back at A rank if you want.
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Here is my two characters, hopefully I wont have to change much.




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I'll create a proper profile later, I'm at work at the moment, but I'm planning on using Gawain as my Servant.

@Dezuel doesn't a Servant need some kind of mount Noble Phantasm to be summonable as a Rider?
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Not all good horsemen of history had named mounts nor special types, they were just skilled as riders.

Unlike for example Lu Bu, whose horse was described to be the horse of horses pretty much. Meaning the horse itself was special, but alot of characters from history, legends, myth etc doesn't have named mounts but are still capable of doing great feats of it due to the riders particular skill with the particular type of mount. Sure it won't be as effective as someone having a special and named one I'm sure.

As for your question. I don't know if you need a noble phantasm as I am not that into fate. But limiting it to people only using named/special mounts is kind of silly as it is the rider's skill which ultimately matters and not the mount. Sure it plays a difference but should it be the only factor?

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@Dezuel I don't think I've ever seen a Rider who didn't have a horse/chariot/something else that they could summon. I agree with your point about not needing to be a Rider to have the riding skill, in fact most knights have decent Riding skills without being in the Rider class (it's actually a Class skill of Sabers as well), though not being in the Rider class does limit what they can do with this skill. But a Rider who doesn't have anything to ride strikes me as odd.

Usually to be summoned in a class you would need to met the prerequisites or that class; you can't be a Caster without being able to cast a few spells, you can't be a Saber without a sword and, I would assume, you can't be a Rider without a mount. That said I'm not sure whether the prerequisite for being a Rider is having a mount or just having a high Riding skill, since I think Lancer Arthoria's profile says something to the effect of "This rank is high enough to have aptitude for the Rider Class" despite not having a mount Noble Phantasm.
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Was thinking of apping Siegfried myself. Have a master in the works but I am not set on a particular path yet. Might make a Brazilian master.
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Man I forgot that Georgios had so many Noble Phantasms. I don't see any problem with Georgios myself, but please wait for the opinions of @Reflection and @Red Alice.

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I just noticed you lowered Georgios's Magic Resistance, you can put it back at A rank if you want.


Ah, I see that was a typo. I'll have it back to the normal rank.

@Dezuel@King Cosmos

The Riders that don't have the ability to summon a mount are the exception rather than the rule, and usually require an explanation of why they are allowed to be Riders when they don't have mounts/vehicles of their own. You mount doesn't need to be special or even qualify as a Noble Phantasm. You usually get the ability to summon whatever is it that qualified you to the Rider Class when you are summoned as part of it.

You probably should take a look at those skills as well, both the Class and Personal ones, and your Master. I'll not comment too much on it, since I'm no GM, but did you at least read any material of the franchise (or at least the wiki) beforehand?

I'm not trying to attack you, please don't think I'm. It's just that there's so much wrong or misinformed choices there that it's hard to not ask such a question.
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Thank you Parallel. I am talking with Duezel, and we're chatting up changes that could be made to synergize his skill set better.

@Parallel Hearts So for a George review, he's fine. I just want to clarify that the + modifiers come into play when he's defending others, and are temporary boosts, rather than constant boosts. Otherwise, you're good. George is like a brick wall if we're going to be honest. Saint Wall.

@King Cosmos I'll chat with the others about Gawain. Thank you for letting us know.

@Dezuel I sent you a PM with some suggestions for your character. Mostly to help with skill synergy and how some of his parameters are too high for him, due to his lack of personal feats.
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@Parallel Hearts So for a George review, he's fine. I just want to clarify that the + modifiers come into play when he's defending others, and are temporary boosts, rather than constant boosts. Otherwise, you're good. George is like a brick wall if we're going to be honest. Saint Wall.


I imagine so. +'s tend to be temporary bonuses and, in George's case, they should be active when he's protecting others or protecting something that needs to be protected.
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So all of this information is available on the wiki, but here is my profile for Gawain. If someone could explain to me exactly what Gawain's charisma skill means or does I would be grateful.


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Charisma in general is a pretty simple skill, it just means people like you more. For Gawain specifically, knights and lower ranked soldiers like him more. Gawain is approved by the way.
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Now for everyone else, we're gearing up for the OOC to be posted tonight! For now though, have an early link to the Discord.

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Charisma in general is a pretty simple skill, it just means people like you more. For Gawain specifically, knights and lower ranked soldiers like him more. Gawain is approved by the way.


Rank E charisma is described as increasing leadership skills but lowering troop morale, generally. Gawain's seemed to be different so I wasn't sure if that applied to him or if it just meant he was generally well liked.
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