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Can confirm that it is, in fact, submersion. Which is why Devil Fruit users can take showers (though not baths, as those would have them submerged), and keep going while its' raining.

As for the possibility of her post being that she rode a wave, that could be the case, I wasn't entirely certain based on the wording.
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Its not contact, its submersion. Ie Rain doesn't do it, reaching into water doesn't do it, if someone sprayed them with a hose it still wouldn't do it.


Can confirm that it is, in fact, submersion. Which is why Devil Fruit users can take showers (though not baths, as those would have them submerged), and keep going while its' raining.


Guys, I looked this this up on the wiki yesterday; I'm confident about this. It's standing water, i.e still water, that has an effect, not running/moving water; shower/rain/having a wave wash over you is fine but any amount of standing water will have an effect. Being 50% submerged is when a Devil Fruit user starts to lose strength and collapse but any amount of standing water will cause them to lose their powers.
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Wiki can be an iffy source. No, mere contact with standing water does nothing. This doesn't really come up in the show, because no one can "stand" on water. What we do have is Brook, who can run on it, Luffy who can still stretch himself under the damn ocean, and we have example of devil-fruit users standing in ankle-deep water and still using powers. Notably, since nowhere in the show does this come up, we can infer that it doesn't work like that.

Submersion is where they lose their powers, and by correlation, strength. That's what we have lore-wise
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I'm going by the author's own words here, though with translations that can still be iffy. Luffy can still stretch because the Devil Fruit changed his body permanently, sea water can't make him not rubber or make Brooks not a skeleton, but it apparently prevents people with powers that need to be activated from doing so.
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"When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier."

I take this to mean if they are submerged, their powers go away. Partial submersion means a weakening of their powers and strength, which grows and wanes with how much is submerged. Ie just ankle-deep mean a small decrease.

So, yeah it does affect their powers but she would still be able to ride a wave.
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I swear, this kinda stuff is 99% sure to be the reason Oda has never introduced a water Devil Fruit. How do you ride a wave if you are the wave? Can you still swim if your power is generating water? Can you be effected by your own water? Etc.
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Its magic, dammit

Ain't gotta explain shit /s

More seriously, OP does run on rule of cool

If it's cool, it works.

What's cooler then a person surfing on a wave of their own making?
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Sorry guys. I’m going to drop out. There is a lot going on in this RP that makes it impossible for me to enjoy myself. Wishing you all the best. Please redact all of my character’s actions.
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@KillBox Yeah, that makes sense. To be honest, everybody just kinda gets dragged into one thing, and it's a bunch of one upping.
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@Killbox, I know things didn't go your way, but that's no reason to give up. Bounce back, play it off. RP, especially with other people, is all about 'Yes, and'. Something unexpected happens, go with it.

Personally, the best part about a story is character growth. Use this as a way to shape you character so he can him grow.

Edit: My favorite characters are ones that something unexpected or bad happened, and I had to play the character around it. But when I did, I thought 'Wow, this is way better.'
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Yeah, that makes sense. To be honest, everybody just kinda gets dragged into one thing, and it's a bunch of one upping.


Nah, don't start waving that shtick. That kind of thing is inevitable. For the most part, everyone is acting according to their characters, which is fantastic in itself.
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It’s not on any one person. But its like @Reflection said. It’s a string of ‘one-upping’ and the fact that power levels are not well defined. With RPs like this, I would personally prefer a common starting point, a definite starting stat, some restrictions as to what our characters can and cannot do. Having Conquer’s haki, or evening any haki, this early into an One Piece RP, having essentially unrestricted power with a devil fruit, and the fact that there are tons of different crews already, leads to a messy starting point.

Those are just my thoughts
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It’s not on any one person. But its like @Reflection said. It’s a string of ‘one-upping’ and the fact that power levels are not well defined. With RPs like this, I would personally prefer a common starting point, a definite starting stat, some restrictions as to what our characters can and cannot do. Having Conquer’s haki, or evening any haki, this early into an One Piece RP, having essentially unrestricted power with a devil fruit, and the fact that there are tons of different crews already, leads to a messy starting point.

Those are just my thoughts


I can't deny that. But I'll roll with it, as I've played RPs that went the other way and fizzled quickly. This one has one of the most IC posts yet.
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@KillBox Honestly, I think once everybody gets booted off the Red Lion Pirate's Ship and they do their own things, THEN it'll be a lot less cluttered.

Personally, the GM shouldn't be metagaming as heavily as they are. It's leading to all sorts of stuff.
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With that said. I’ll be keeping an eye on the RP. If the opportunity is still there at a future date, I’ll join back. However, for now, consider my character inactive. One can say the gun shot wound he suffered, then subsequently getting his ribs stepped in, all while not defending himself apparently, put him out of commission.
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The has been a lot of godmodding in this RP, something which I've been especially guilty of given the nature of Shigeuchi's power (who'd have thought the ability to move people around and steal their stuff with their consent in an RP would be so troublesome?). Ideally I'd get permission for everything I'm doing, discuss everything beforehand so nobody feels slighted or cheated by the things Shigeuchi does, but doing that through PM's would slow my posting down a lot.

This is why I like RP's to have a Discord, or some other way to make communication easier and faster.

The poorly defined power levels are an issue, especially when it leads to people having different opinions about characters capabilities and what they are able to do against each other. Maybe having everyone start at roughly the same level would have been better, but unless we all want to start over we'll have to just roll with how things are now. Right now, if I had to give my opinion I'd say Nikko/Balthier are at the top, then Shigeuchi, Kuroda (since he has Haki), Caitlyn (no Haki to hurt Kuroda), Dishes (no Haki yet to hurt either of the Logia types) and Lexi at the bottom due to no Haki and no Devil Fruit.
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I’m sorry I haven’t replied lately. Just been busy af here. I’ll post tomorrow though :)

And I’m sorry about the feelings I’ve left behind. It’s a bit of a mess.

If we like we can wipe this slate clean?
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I say once we get out of Alabasta and everybody stops harassing my boat, it'll get easier.
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@ladyonyx04

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Your last post is...troublesome.

Lexi is back at the docks, switched by Shig with Jot and definable out of any kind of earshot range. Therefore the conversation they had in your post couldn’t have happened in any way.
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I just like to imagine they both pulled out phones and called each other up.
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