---

Name:
Arthur Pierce

Nicknames:
None

Age:
18

Gender:
Male

Origin:
Snowpoint City

Appearance:
Arthur is a little short for his age, standing at 5'7 and weighing about 143 lbs. His hair is a mousy brown and his eyes are a bright amber color. His skin is pale due to spending his whole life in the north, so he burns rather easily under the sun. He's always covered in some sort of dirt or dust due to travel and his hair might seem a bit messy at times, though he tries to appear well-kept.

Personality:
Arthur is an aloof person; he finds it difficult to interact with others and will often try to keep conversations quick and to the point. He is short-tempered and will make it obvious if someone is bothering him too much. Despite being prickly and a pain in the ass to approach, Arthur has a passion for Pokemon and wields a great amount of ambition towards his goal of becoming the region's Champion. Other than that, he has no other respectable goals. Thus, Arthur takes the Gym Challenge extremely seriously and will often be seen trudging onward with little to no rest.

His pride is one of his soft spots-- if one wounds it, they will be met with a nasty combination of verbal and physical aggression. This leads Arthur to get in many fights and squabbles that can quickly turn a bit too heated.

Short Biography:
Surprisingly enough, Arthur's childhood was one of pure ecstasy and joy. He was wonderfully tended to by both his mother and father and their family was never in need of money. His mother, the newly-appointed Gym Leader of Snowpoint, brought in enough revenue to give Arthur whatever he wanted. Unfortunately for Arthur, as he grew older his mother would be consistently absent from their house. She worked long hours at the Gym, and even though he was allowed to visit her every so often, he secretly wanted her back home with him and his father. Fortunately for him, however, his visits to the Snowpoint Gym exposed him to many types of Pokemon battles. Those battles spurred him towards an undeniable future; he would one day participate in the Gym Challenge, enter the Champion's Cup, and become Sinnoh's Champion.

Of course, that meant he'd have to become of age, first. Both of his parents agreed that the younger one participated in the challenge, the worse it was; young ones' minds and bodies must be at top shape before they could embark on such a journey, after all. Especially one that was to be televised and especially if said young one was the child of a prestigious Gym Leader. On Arthur's 17th birthday, his mother handed over an egg to him instead of an endorsement. It was from her own Noivern's brood, she stated, and already he knew that he had to take utmost care of the egg. And so, that was what he did.

A few months before the Gym Challenge would make its rounds again, the egg hatched to reveal a fuzzy Noibat. The two bonded almost immediately and Arthur named him Nero for the black scales that would eventually cover the small creature's body. When it came time for the Gym Challenge to occur, his mother endorsed Arthur-- with that, both he and Nero made their way to Jubilife City for the beginning celebrations.

Pokemon:

Summary:
A young and spoiled young man who has way too much ambition for his own good.

Other:
Nothing at the moment.

---

Name: Rachel "Roux" Gibson

Nicknames: Roux

Age: 16

Gender: Female ♀

Origin: Canalave City

Appearance:
At 5'7", Rachel's meek 118 pounds lend her a lanky, almost frail physique, that is further accentuated by her whispy mannerisms and shut-off posture. Her hair is a desaturated copper, a remnant of what was a proper red during her childhood, and the origin of her nickname. Despite taking care of herself, and dressing remarkably well, Roux is often described as "seeming" disheveled; perhaps due to her cautious and distanced disposition. She can be most often seen sporting cozy sweaters or hoodies in a variety of rustic, autumnal colours, with matching skinny jeans or corduroy skirts.

Personality:
One-track-minded and pessimistic, Rachel is quick to make a poor first impression, sometimes even coming across as a little haughty; She tends to dismiss things that are in opposition to her own goals, devoting the entirety of her time and emotional capacity to her own pursuits. Though once an approachable and loving girl, Roux has developed a more negative disposition and even a bit of an obsession with developing strength lest she misses opportunities to make things right, as a result of her childhood. Regardless of what attributes people tend to ascribe to her, she avoids conflicts, confining her animosity to the ocassional cutting remark before withdrawing from the situation. Almost devoid of pride, Roux carries herself with a bit of a defeatist attitude, a trait that usually difuses alterations on its own.

Beyond her personal values in life, her fascination with strength extends to her philosophy as a trainer; Roux is in love with raw, brutal strength. She admires trainers who have formed a strong bond with feriocious Pokemon such as Tyranitar, and greatly dislikes trainers who choose their partners only for their cuteness.

Despite her quiet and sometimes difficult personality, Roux is not anti-social, and in fact is quite well-connected. In her formative years, she has become aquainted with the Kids Grid, a relationship she maintains to this very day. Roux is highly curious and studious, soaking up information and stories from all around the world, as she did in countless hours spent in the Canalave Library, and is genuinely interested in the experiences of others should they be in any shape or form connected to her own situation. She also deeply loves her family and is a proud resident of Canalave City, feeling rooted and protective of her hometown.

Short Biography:
The lone child of a sailor and an apothecary-turned-stay-at-home mom, Rachel lived an unremarkable but happy life as a young girl. Though her father was often away, he would return with little gifts and treasures for the two women in his life, including rarities like Moon Stones and Genius Feathers. Rachel was obsessed with his stories as to how he acquired the treasures, what kind of people and Pokemon he'd met aboard the latest cruise, and what places he'd seen. With her mother, who had coined her nickname due to Rachel's much more vibrant childhood hair, Rachel would spent countless afternoons in the library, reading through the myths of Sinnho, learn about how her mother's Pokemon helped with medical aid, researching the places her father had told them about, and burst with recited information on their way back home. With her sheer endless thirst for stories, her mother, a trainer originally from Orre, introduced her to the Kids Grid, who'd turned into a much more accessible network these days, and Rachel quickly became friends with the kids abroad.

It was her mother, a specialist with poison and grass-types, who gave Roux her first Pokemon; a tiny Venonat, whom Roux loved dearly and named Cookie, and trained it along her mother's own Venomoth. Though she never had intentions of letting her partner get hurt in real battles, she considered contests a possible path, and wanted her friend to be the best it could possible be.

However, things turned for the worse shortly after Roux's 14th birthday. After returning home from a little adventure on Route 218, Cookie had disappeared, not reacting to her trainer's desperate calls. She combed through the route to the best of her ability, returning home to tell her mother of what had happened. Soon, her mother had set out to search the city with her own Pokemon, while Roux called her friends in Orre, asking if they had any of their satellites in Sinnoh. And though this wasn't the case, her foreign friends told her of a rumor they had heard, that Pokemon poachers had recently been sighted all-throughout the chilly region. When her mother returned without Cookie, a heavy air of tragedy hung around the house, and not even her father's return could lift the gloom.

Since the events, Roux became more and more reclusive, spending her days elsewhere. She didn't eagerly await her father's stories upon his return, and she didn't ask her mother to to spend time at the library anymore. She did not catch Pokemon, either, seemingly turning her back to the trainer life. It wasn't until a year ago, when a package arrived with her name on it. Inside were an envelope, a little card, and a Pokeball. Surprised, Roux took the card, and read it. "Your friends at the Grid told me about you a while back. I know some people in Hoenn, who know some people in Sinnoh; it works out. You should try to go your own path. Maybe an old friend comes along. For now, please make new friends, like this one."

With her endorsement for the next challenge in hand, and an Eevee pushing its head into her leg, Roux knew there was a path for her. If only she could get through this, and become strong enough, maybe there was a way to make things right.

Pokemon:

Summary: Strength-obsessed mope searches for her best friend.

Other:
-

Name:
Alisa Sokol

Nicknames:
N/A

Age:
17

Gender:
Female

Origin:
Jubilife City

Appearance:
Stands at about 5'6 and 131 pounds. Prefers to wear clothing that's more casual in style.

Personality:
Cheerful and hot-blooded, Alisa welcomes excitement and challenge. She's constantly seeking thrills, having a craving for adventure. Energetic in general, Alisa has a zest for life and is generally friendly towards most people at first glance, thinking nothing of a casual battle just to test each other's abilities and just for fun.

Unlike what her personality would imply at first glance, though, Alisa is more cunning than she looks. In both life and battle, she's not one to let an opportunity pass her by. Outright research and study isn't her forte, but she's rather adept at lateral thinking and creative approaches. She prefers to stay versatile in battles, mixing in tricks and misdirection alongside brute force.

Short Biography:
Born and raised in Jubilife to a pair of professional Pokemon breeders, Alisa was raised alongside Pokemon since she was young. Her parents made their living breeding competitive Pokemon for career Trainers, and so Alisa grew up interacting with both Pokemon and professional Trainers, hearing stories of battling and adventure from visiting aces whenever they came to pick up their Pokemon.

As she grew older, Alisa found herself helping her parents with their breeding business. Outside of providing freshly bred Pokemon for professionals, her parents also had a brisk side business of an ordinary Pokemon Day Care's functions, which included light training. Alisa took the job seriously, ensuring that at the very least, Pokemon left with her parents' business didn't have their skills and experience atrophy from idleness.

In her free time outside of school and work, Alisa wound up at a local battling facility in Jubilife that specialized in supplying rented Pokemon, given that she wasn't allowed to borrow Pokemon being raised by her parents. As it turned out, listening to professional Trainers since childhood meant that she at least had some idea of what she was doing in a battle, and Alisa quickly started racking up wins and making a name for herself in the local circuits.

It was at one of these rental tournaments that Alisa caught the eye of one of her parents' clients. The pro Trainer and former Gym Challenger hadn't realized that her local breeders' daughter was at least competent, and this quirked her interest enough that she arranged Alisa's sponsorship into the next year's Gym Challenge.

Alisa was delighted when she found out, having wanted to strike out on her own adventure for years. Her parents were slightly more reserved on the matter, but arranged to have a Pokemon for her by the time the competition started. They gifted her with a recently-hatched Honedge, given her fondness for Aegislash, and Alisa spent the next few months until the Gym Challenge began bonding with the newly-dubbed Lanza.

Pokemon:



Summary:
Local girl taking full advantage of her opportunity for travel and excitement.

Other:
Battle theme
Voice actor: Laura Bailey

---

Name:
Rosanna Abernathy

Nicknames:
Ro, Rosie

Age:
16

Gender:
Female

Origin:
Celestic Town

Appearance:
Rosie is a fairly petite girl, standing at 5'3" and weighing 110 pounds. With soft features and big, hazel eyes, she has a rather cute "girl next door" sort of look; however, this makes her seem just a tad bit younger than she really is. Her hair is a mousy brown that reaches just past her shoulders, though she prefers to keep it up in a ponytail. Rosie prefers comfortable, practical clothing, given her love for the outdoors that usually leaves her looking a little messy. She does her best to stay well-kept, though this is often futile.

Personality:
Rosie is, in a word, adventurous. She's never been able to stay still, always seeking out some sort of discovery. With an insatiable curiosity and restless ambition, Rosie has never been able to stop herself from going after what she wants. Her goals are always at the forefront of her mind, with little room for much else. Her work ethic is a force to be reckoned with; oftentimes, her priorities can become skewed, as she frequently abandons her physical and mental well-being for the sake of her ambition.

Of course, working isn't all there is to her. Rosie makes a point of being friendly; extroverted and outgoing, she finds it easy to befriend others, and isn't afraid to approach strangers for the sake of conversation. She's rather easy to talk to, always happy to offer a smile to anyone who passes by. Rosie genuinely enjoys getting to know other people, always listening intently to their thoughts and opinions. Her cheerful, energetic persona can get the best of her sometimes, as she tends to run headfirst into things without much forethought.

Despite seeming like a bit of an airhead, Rosie is a surprisingly intelligent girl, displaying impressive knowledge of her fields of study. She has a deep passion for research, with a tendency to talk at-length about a given subject with anyone who asks. She's a fast learner, capable of picking up new skills rather easily; with a sharp, observant gaze, she tends to pick up on things that others might miss. This comes in handy during battle, especially when paired with her scientific knowledge of Pokemon. Rosie enjoys challenges and solving problems, stubbornly refusing to give in until she overcomes them.

Short Biography:
Growing up in Celestic Town is a little...slow, to say the least. With a population of just 22, it barely even qualifies as a town to begin with. But even from a young age, Rosie always seemed to make the best of it. Being the only child of two loving and doting parents-a pair of retired archaeologists-she had all the love and attention she could ever want. She developed an early love for reading, quickly making her way through all the books her parents owned. Her passion for learning was quickly noticed by her parents, who made sure to foster it as much as they could.

But of course, there's only one thing Celestic Town really has to offer: the Celestic Ruins. As such, Rosie found herself spending a great deal of time there, her curiosity drawing her to the etchings inside. These etchings spawned an early fascination with Pokemon, especially their role in Sinnoh's history. Rosie began to spend more time studying Pokemon in particular, with a renewed fervor that surprised even her parents. Still, they made sure to support her, buying whatever study materials she asked for. She learned about different species, their evolution, how they might be related to one another, their capabilities, and more. She became especially fascinated with the interactions that Pokemon have had with humans over time; the symbiotic relationship between the two, their role in society, and how battling has shaped Sinnoh's modern culture. During this time, she developed a heavy reliance on caffeine to keep her awake late into the night.

But eventually, books alone weren't enough to satisfy her. With the protection of some of her parents' Pokemon, Rosie began to venture short distances outside of Celestic Town, studying Pokemon in the wild. She found battling to be a very effective means of study, and actually took to it rather quickly. She began to pay more attention to the professional battles shown on TV as well, taking note of the way that trainers interact with their Pokemon. Once again, her parents sought to encourage her; they called in an old research partner, who quickly took interest in Rosie's work. After some time, it was decided that the best way for her to continue researching Pokemon battles was for her to leave Celestic Town altogether. It just so happened that the gym challenge would be starting up soon; sensing a great opportunity, he endorsed her, promising that if she did well enough he'd hire her as a full-time field researcher. Of course, she accepted.

Shortly after, her parents bought Rosie a very special gift: a Pokemon egg. With a great deal of care and love, the egg hatched into a Riolu. The two are inseparable, never straying from each other's side.

Pokemon:


Summary:
A small town history buff who wants to do her research the fun way.

Other:
Lucina has a Pokeball, but Rosie prefers to let her walk around on her own.

---

Name: Roxanne “Carmen” Rowe

Nicknames: Carmen, Roxy

Age: 18

Gender: Female

Origin: Hearthhome City

Appearance:
Standing at an average height of 5’8” and weighing roughly 144 lbs, Roxanne often goes towards the eccentric when it comes to looks. She has to constantly dye her hair to maintain that vibrant red look, and her stunning yellow eyes are thanks to contacts, which cover up the normal hazel underneath. Her skin is lightly tanned thanks to training out in the sun, and she does her best to make sure her clothing is spotless and clean.

Personality:

Roxxane is a naturally curious individual who would gladly embrace a challenge with open arms and a smug smile. She’s, by all means, a very driven and hardworking individual that holds herself in high regard to the point where it may come off as egotistical or narcissistic, but that’s not the case, she simply believes in her own worth. This pride drives her a bit too much and is often a sure way to get on her nerves if tormented on it. Of course, she won’t show that it’s getting to her immediately, preferring to smile and making note of who’s wronged her for later.

When it comes to interacting with others, she does her best to be approachable with an outstretched arm and a pat on the back. She likes getting to know other people, but chances are most people don’t like her sarcastic, teasing nature. This often gets her into trouble, as she often will say what’s on her mind before apologizing if she realizes she messed up. If pushed too hard away by someone who doesn’t want her company, she’ll back off for the moment and give the person some space. If pushed to her breaking point, however, she’ll likely drop the nice guy act in the heat of the moment and get fired up with them. And in battle, she drops the smile for a cocky smirk and toys with the opponent in an attempt to get their guard down so she can take advantage of it. She doesn’t mean any harm by it, but if put into a desperate situation she may say something she’ll regret later.

This duality often comes into play with her style in battle; Roxanne is all about playing it safe early on in order to fully exploit the opponent’s weaknesses later with hyper-aggressive maneuvers. Which is to say, she’s on the defensive at first to understand the opponent, and then the offense when she notices their flaws. Adding onto this she has a fiery competitive spirit with a no-lose mentality, so don’t expect any pity. She also can’t keep her mouth shut in battle either in an attempt to distract her opponent.

Short Biography:
Roxxane is the middle child of a family of four, born and raised right in Hearthhome City to a father who was a popular coordinator and a mom who helped run a bakery that specializes in poffins. It was easy for her to be unnoticed by her parents who are active and not always at home, so naturally, she took every opportunity to watch them at work. When she was younger, she often followed her mother in the bakery, endlessly watching her hard at work and constantly being scolded when Roxxane attempted to “help”. She would make special batches for her father, and Roxanne often had the pleasure of delivering them to the contest hall to her father.

The perks of delivering poffins to a coordinator, you get to watch them in action when they’re busy. It was at the contest hall that Roxanne was able to see a myriad of Pokemon and styles. In a contest, she realized it was more than just looking pretty, and her father was able to display immense strength and power while also impressing the judges with dazzling displays of what Roxanne could only call art. She felt a calling here, and when she felt he was old enough, she asked her father to train her.

But by then, her father was too busy to deal with his daughter, opting to have one of his friends show Roxxane the ropes. Roxanne’s mentor was a fiery, passionate, manipulative woman who was a surprisingly excellent teacher and famous coordinator. It was this woman that told Roxxane she needed to change her style, and even gave her a stage name Carmen so that she wouldn’t be compared to her father. Eager to learn, Roxanne absorbed all that her mentor had to offer over the years, earning herself a name in the contest industry for her unique team combinations and riling up her opponents to get them to slip up. Even so, she often struggled to think of interesting displays to impress the judges in the first rounds, but if she could manage that, she’d sweep the competition in the battles that came.

It was because of this that her career began to stagnate. She realized she loved the battling more than she did the art, but was unsure as to how to change or what she should do. She didn’t want to give up on her fans or her ego, and she had gained quite the fan base by now. Her mentor, who had retired and become a judge instead, noticed this change and how Roxxane had begun to slip up in the competitions. If she kept it up her career would be ruined. So one day after she lost another contest, her mentor made a deal.

She was influential enough to get Roxanne an endorsement in the gym challenge, and her mentor knew Roxanne had what it took to compete with her battle prowess. It was a way out of being a coordinator, but more than that, it was a way to keep her fans and have them support her in a different manner. She could shine brighter than before, and now she had the proper stage to do so.

Pokemon:

Summary: A candid, sly coordinator who wants a change of pace from contest life.
Other:
None atm.

---

Name: Tobias White

Nicknames: N/A

Age: 17

Gender: Male

Origin: Sunyshore City

Appearance: 6’ 1” | 131lbs

Personality: Meticulous and careful in everything he does, Tobias is someone who likes to take his time with things and think through a course of action. He doesn’t like to even make a start at something unless he has all of the steps thought out ahead of time, so that he can complete things thoroughly and on the first try. This gives him a high rate of success in the things he tries but at the same time he has a problem with over-planning above and beyond what is needed.

Despite his outwardly calm appearance he is someone who is driven to do his best and can be surprisingly stubborn and passionate about things. While this spurs him on to give his best effort he can sometimes become fixated on a goal of it is something he is having difficulty with; as such he is someone who at times has difficulty letting things go.

In interactions with others he is best described as reserved and cool; he is not outwardly emotive or expressive which makes it hard for people to tell what he is feeling most of the time. At the same time his manner of speaking sometimes comes across as short or abrupt, even rude, but this is not to say he is unkind or uncaring; he just doesn’t often show his kinder side to those he has just met.

Short Biography: The son of an engineer and a teacher, an only child, Tobias grew up in the coastal city of Sunyshore. His parents were often busy with their respective professions, either working long hours or bringing their work home with them respectively, but always made sure that at least one of them was free to spend time with him when he was young. Usually this was his mother, the teacher, who was home more often than her husband even if she sometimes had to work even then; as a result Tobias was closer to her than his father.

Often she would read to him, or teach him things, and as he grew older he would be the one reading or they would read together. She instilled in him a love of books and of learning and even when his parents weren’t around he was usually reading by himself rather than playing with children his own age. His father meanwhile, when he was around, taught Tobias how to think; how to rationalise, how to break problems down and solve them piece by piece, how to tackle unknown situations; it might have been different from what most fathers taught their sons, but he gave Tobias an engineer’s mind-set to go along with his love of learning.

During Gym Challenge season he would also spend time at the Sunyshore gym, mostly out of a lack of anything else to do and also because like any kid he had an interest in Pokémon. He didn’t have any aspirations of becoming a Pokémon trainer at this point but he enjoyed the spectacle of the battles and he enjoyed cheering for his hometown’s gym leader all the same. However over time he started watching the battles more closely, paying attention to the strategies involved more than the showiness of it all; he began to notice things. Each trainer had their own way of doing things, their own approach and their own plan; some succeeded and others didn’t, some were too weak and others strong enough, some he could see adapt and adjust their plans when things went wrong and others he saw stick to their plans and fail.

Pokémon battles were a lot more complicated than he had first thought. They were a complex and dynamic puzzle as much as they were a test of strength, probably more so.

From the moment of this realisation onwards Tobias was set on becoming a trainer. He couldn’t even say why exactly, but it was like a fire had been lit under him and it was something that he had to do. At age fifteen he obtained his first Pokémon, a Magnemite given to him by his father, and he began training in earnest. At age seventeen he approached the Sunyshore gym leader and asked him for a recommendation.

Pokemon:


Summary: Someone who believes that everything can be ‘solved’ given enough time and information, including Pokémon battles.

Other: Enjoys cooking and reading

---

Name:
Oriole Aquilo
Nicknames:
Oreo
Age:
16
Gender:
Male
Origin:
Canalave City
Appearance:
With his body toned from years of hiking, sailing, and climbing during his parents’ research excursions, Oreo definitely resembles an agile alpinist rather than a researcher or a newbie trainer (both of which are far more accurate titles). Dark, brooding eyebrows dominate his glares, and he often messily ties up faded white hair. He stands at 5 “9 and clocks in at about 160 pounds.
Personality:
Particularly eccentric youth and general xenophiles might be familiar with Oreo’s podcast, “Weird Sinnoh,” in which he rambles for hours about ancient ruins, mythological pokemon sightings, and whether or not Jynx have feet. As the only son of travelling researchers, Oreo knows many odd facts and theories on Sinnoh and the pokemon that live there. When he’s not travelling with his parents, he can be found combing the Canalave Library’s Archives or subduing wild pokemon to take samples.

It takes a certain kind of one-track mindedness to create a podcast on the strange and sinister when they’re thirteen years old- and another kind of determination to actually maintain and meticulously care for a personal brand. Luckily, Oreo was both, and loved it. As his podcast burst in popularity, he had regular Q&A’s with viewers, debates with other content creators, and even a few product placement sponsorships to help support his mission.

Oreo’s entire life is built around his single goal, and he’s willing to do anything and everything to meet it.
Short Biography:
Fans of his podcasts will note Oreo’s scatter-minded nature and, more prominently, his hatred of dragon pokemon. A self-declared drago-phobe, any longtime listener would know that the podcaster has hated any and all dragon pokemon since the Mystery Giant sighting. A few years back, ferry passengers mere miles from Canalave harbor faced death, or near death, when a giant, unidentified creature rose from the depths of the sea and caused the ship to capsize.

Though the incident would later be chalked up to mass hysteria, Oreo’s parents, esteemed researchers onboard the ferry, published an official statement on the incident, citing a yet-unidentified dragon pokemon as the culprit- and got their credentials revoked.

They eventually began to work at the library full time and gradually moved on with their lives- but scarred by the public humiliation of his family and the trauma of almost drowning, Oreo did not.

He delved fully into his research, scouring texts ancient and modern, local and foreign, looking for something- anything, that would help him prove the existence of the mystery dragon. He never fully sleeps without dreaming of that stormy night, those glowing eyes, or the terrible, sulfuric stench. The officials called it “mass hysteria”, his parents called it a “mystery pokemon”, but Oreo couldn’t begin to put what he saw that night into words.

His obsession encroached onto every aspect of his life- everything became part of his hunt for the truth.

As an independent researcher, Oreo trained a few pokemon to fight off the wild ones he’d encounter on the field, sometimes uploading battle videos onto his website. This got the attention of a new type of fan, since a lifetime’s worth of study translated rather nicely into pokemon battles. But, he insisted to some very persistent fans, he was no trainer- he was a pioneer! And the sea monster was his great frontier to be blazed! His pokemon weren’t trained for sport, they were to fend off beasts of the wild- and to one day slay the greatest beast of all.

But eventually his show got the attention of some esteemed trainers, ones who helped run the Annual Gym Challenge. Ones that probably thought he could help them tap into a wholly different demographic than the usual sports fans. Although initially reluctant, seeing as how chasing after legends and myths doesn’t pay the bills, and an ocean expedition would cost money. And if he happened across the creature on his journey across Sinnoh? Well, he wouldn’t fail to get it on tape.
Pokemon:


Summary: Drago-phobe researcher and internet personality with a massive vendetta.
Other: Nothing yet.