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We all know the stories, but what if one simple event... never happened?




Welcome to the world of Mobius Guardians. As already stated, we know the story of the Sonic Universe pretty well by now. Well, as the question poses... what if one event changes? Apparently... a lot changes.

Mobius Guardians is an AU that came to life starting from a simple concept. What if the disaster that wiped out the Echidna... never happened? What if Tikal had managed to convince her father to seek peace? If Perfect Chaos never went on their rampage?

From there... more what ifs began to arise and more and more pieces began to fall into place. This universe encompasses a plethora of ideas including Legacy Media, Fan Concepts, and new Original Characters in the story thus far.

So what does that mean for our favorite characters? Well, for the most part... they are fairly different. There's way too much to explain in just the interest check and it's often much easier to explain in the story itself, so we'll hold off on that. But, if enough interest drums up... I may go into detail with what is currently set in stone.

With all that out of the way, this is where we begin. A great deal has already happened, but the perfect point to open up the world to others and let their stories be told... is the arc of Forces. While we won't be jumping right into the war and all that entails, we'll be building up to it and soon after those events will kick off.

Interested? Pop your voice and your ideas down below and let's see if we can get the ball rolling. There's still many stories left to tell in the world of Mobius Guardians!




Since a few people have been interested in the events in this alternate universe, I figured I'd share a few of the events that have transpired prior to the events that would occur here. Team Sonic has their hand in most of all of these, so I'll only mention anything that isn't directly tied to them.

S3&K Arc - The legendary floating land mass known as Angel Island, home to the Echidna and Owl Clans, crashes into the ocean with the theft of the mythical artifact known as the Master Emerald. The two chosen guardians by each clan, Knuckles the Echidna and Longclaw the Owl, as well as Knuckles younger sister Onyx, set out to recover it.

SA1 Arc - With Angel Island still on the surface, the exiled Nocturnus Clan, now partnered with Dr. Robotnik, seek to unleash the ancient entity known as Chaos to take vengeance on their people for their clan's downfall, ultimately resulting in destruction of their own clan aside from one survivor under Robotnik's command, Shade.

SA2 Arc - With intel recovered from an undisclosed source, Robotnik raids a G.U.N. Facility and uncovers what he believes to be his Grandfather's greatest creation, discovering it to be a Mobian Clone of his cousin Maria who instructs him to gather the Chaos Emeralds and bring them back to Space Colony ARK. Joined by Shade and a less than trustworthy bat named Rouge, the group becomes targeted by an unknown assailant who is bent on stopping them at all costs.
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Sounds like shades of Other M (Ian Flynn's very inconsistent webcomic from 2001) and "what if the Dark Brotherhood/Legion/etc ruled the world".
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Huh, not too familiar with those myself so I can say I wasn't exactly influenced by them XD

I tried to keep it consistent with the game arcs as much as I can, though there is definitely some heavy differences... aside from the Chaotix. They are... pretty much the same as they always were-
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I guess those Archie Sonic comics influence is through osmosis instead of direct influence these days.
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Oh yeah, I do take a few cues from the old comics, but mostly only character names and personalities that didn't quite work for characters that already existed.

I actually placed a restriction on this AU to not use stuff from the Archie Comics, despite them having a lot of my favorite characters. Nothing from IDW yet either, though I may partially lift it once we get into the main arc. Not sure yet. Only thing I do know, as much as I love 'em, is no Freedom Fighters. They just don't work in this AU.
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I'll have to see more info before I commit to anything, as usual. Lot of Sonic RPs attract less than well-designed concepts.
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Oh for sure. And yeah, I didn't want to jump full into it unless there was enough interest drummed up, hence less detailed info. I've been working on the story alone for about a year and a half now. Got a bit down on paper but most of it is still in concept stages because of my perfectionism with the project.

That being said, if there's any details involving characters or story in particular that anyone's curious about, I can definitely go into a bit more detail. Just didn't want to write the entire thing down here this early.
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Interested!

I have a question: Is Sonic still around? What's he like/doing if he is?
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Yep. All the typical crew and a few non-typical are still very much around and kicking. When there's no adventures going on, he's usually around South Island with Uncle Chuck, Amy, and Tails, the latter two forming with him this universe's Team Sonic.
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That's cool!

Oh, and also: Is there anything we need to know about this AU before we start making/coming with the idea(s) of our characters?
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Not much unless you're looking to make a character extremely specific with certain things, like G.U.N. and such.

Obviously with the core changing event allowing the Echidna to live into the modern day, their species is on the table though they aren't a very common sight off of Angel Island aside from Knuckles and, in this universe he gains a little sister with his family named Onyx.

Thinking on it a bit though, the early events did differ pretty widely so I may add a few examples in a bit-
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There we are, the first few major events in the timeline proper. Obviously S1, CD, and S2 are missing. The story began with S3&K's arc with the gaps filled in later for Sonic, Amy, and Tails' stories. To keep things short for that here though, Sonic brought them both back to South Island to live with him and Uncle Chuck cause they needed help and had no one else to turn to when he met them, they're essentially family now.
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So, I am thinking about playing Sonic's father from the archie comics. However, since this is an alternative universe, I am tempted to go with the version of Jules from the fanmade comic, "The Murder of Me," except he is not dead like he is in the fanmade comic. He's not a robot either, as I don't think that the events leading up to becoming a robot existed in the comic I am talking about.

Here's a couple of links, to give you some information on what I going on about.

The Murder of Me

Jules The Hedgehog wiki (AU)

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So... this is gonna be my first hard no. As far as the story goes, as this is starting shortly before the Forces Arc, Sonic's family is honestly pretty well established at this point.

His mother is a non-royal lineage Aleena who lives in Central City with his older sister and younger brother, Sonia and Manic respectively. Sonic, on the other hand, lives with Aleena's brother Charles on South Island. All three siblings inherited their speed from their mother, some more than others.

His father I don't believe I've ever even thought to mention, as it never was important to the story being told or the plot but it's pretty clear that he is out of the picture for one reason or another. And this late into the story it would seem rather... out of place to suddenly introduce him. Nothing against his character from the comics or anything, he just... doesn't fit.

Also the God Powers... no. XD
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I wasn't expecting Sonic Underground influence but I'm happy to see it. Think Forces is a weird think to be so fixated on tho.
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I just find it the biggest well in the canon adventures for new characters and stories to take place given the 6 Month Gap that we are never told what happens in, and Forces big selling point was... original characters XD

If ya have an idea for a better point in time for the story to take place, I'm open to it. Just would take a bit of reworking of what I've got since I planned a lot of things around it already.

And yeah, a big point in the AU is implementing Legacy Characters with changes that work with the story while trying to keep their core characters intact.
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So, we're acknowledging Sonic Underground? It's official, I'm out. Sorry, but Manic and Sonia look nothing like either of their parents, even though I suppose that Sonia looks... a little like Aleena. The triplets having no father does not make sense either. Unless the writers were trying to imply a virgin birth, like in the Bible.

Have fun and I wish you luck!

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That is... certainly a take. Feel like a lot of what I said just got ignored but you do you. Good luck in your thing too.
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That is... certainly a take. Feel like a lot of what I said just got ignored but you do you. Good luck in your thing too.


Did I accidentally miss something? I am confused. You told me that Jules would not fit, so I lost interest. But now, you're saying now that we can suggest a different timeliness? I don't mean to come off harsh, I am just confused.
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With Jules, no I figured that would've been a breaking point but I just didn't see it working out. Just felt like you missed the entire point of taking the Legacy Characters and concepts and adapting them into new work. They don't stay exactly the same as they were, but they keep the core character that makes them who they are.

Just the way you sounded like you dropped it all at the very mention of Underground stuff was rather out of nowhere even after explaining that it wouldn't just be Underground in the Modern-verse.

Either way, not seeing enough interest in the idea to keep this going so I'm just gonna cut it here. Was worth a shot I suppose.
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