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Hidden 11 yrs ago Post by chukklehed
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What I meant by poison is that it bypasses their defense, like Kryptonite and superman.
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So I've been talking with Vita and I think we've came up with an explanation but we'll see.
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Though I'm not 100% sure, I like this explanation just because it feels like it fits the tone I'm going for.

Basically, the reason nails work is because they're "what pierced the saint".

... Vague and stuff but, um, yeah. I just... like the feel of it.

Doll Blood might still be required, but if it is it only works with nails. Trying to forge it into anything else gives you a regular weapon.
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You could also make some technobabble (magibabble?) about the effect being at its most efficient when emanating from a long, thin, round penetration. So you could try to make a sword or an axe or a bullet, but it wouldn't work well enough to kill the doll/puppeteer.
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Maybe...maybe this is just a simple thing...maybe just anything nail shaped is the only thing that can harm them, with no real explanation?
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That's part of why I liked Rin's suggestion for why it has to be nails. It's kind of an explanation, but very vague.
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Well, since dolls seem to be more idea based than logic based, the symbolism itself would probably be enough.
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Just leave it nails.
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I don't think it really matters that much. Just say that it's the easiest way to make them
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Just read over the last few posts, my only suggestion would be go stereotypical and say silver, or holy silver =P

And as for blood, the blood of two Dolls are already Doll weaknesses xD
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I think it will just get left vague.
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Had a little more of a look, and as a serious suggestion this time, what about having the nails made out of a specific metal that just react with a doll biological make-up? For better effect, use something like Nobelium, a synthetic element no-one knows that much about anyway. As for the shape, Dolls are more hardy than humans, so maybe the nails just penetrate the skin better?
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Assuming that we're going for a 'nailed to the cross' idea here, could we assume that the fact that they're shaped like nails isn't strictly connected to the fact that they can harm Dolls? Without full knowledge of what's been discussed, it doesn't seem unreasonable to say that the organisation that knows how to produce weaponry able to harm Dolls also possesses a strong symbolic history and therefore chooses to make their weaponry as a homage.

If we're keeping similar religious symbology to the original Victorian era, you could always say that the nails used to kill Dolls are literally forged from the nails used in the crucifixion of saints (providing them with their supernatural properties), with one such nail being melted down and mixed with regular steel to produce each individual clip for the Hunter's ammo.
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I like the idea that they harm the dolls just 'cause they're nails/nail shaped, and nothing more nothing less...
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Sounds like the Doll Hunters may be backed by the Templar Order xD
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Augh...I don't want this to end up another demon, angel, exorcist, contractor thing again...
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Major Ursa said
I like the idea that they harm the dolls just 'cause they're nails/nail shaped, and nothing more nothing less...


The only problem I have with this is that it legitimately makes a club with nails in more powerful than a sword - I heard enough about that from Mitadake High :P
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Well, this is reminding me of Blue Exorcist far too much, but it's fine, since the anime & manga are awesome.
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So we fix it... with Science!
Human-made Science, to boot =P
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So we fix it... with Science!
Human-made Science, to boot =P
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