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Skallagrim said
Gado, WTF I said spaceships are backdrops, what part of that don't you understand? The gawddamn spaceships in the Angar-Ryllan thread are backdrops to the characters and nothing more than that.***Seriously I can see why a multiverse never gets traction here, everyone wants to do their own thing and not abide by the parameters for the purpose of the mutiverse which is strictly character vs character combat across a variety of settings and with diverse character concepts. Not space ships, not minions but the characters themselves. Everything else is just flavor for the fights.


Hm.

I thought in the OP it mentioned that players were able to summon minions and whatnot, as well as a 'general' or something.

Though, I believe it mentioned that these could only be engaged in certain IC circumstances.
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ah, to add my 5 cents to the gufire talk. Dire confrontation calls for dire measures, so it stands that a intermediate-high gunslinger will be as good at shooting down moving targets as an agile dodger would be at evading gunfire. Like, Grammathon cleric skilled and higher, because nobody said you could only matrix yer dodging.Also, the equipment play a great role here: dual wielding allows for crossfire, full-auto shotguns are damn hard to avoid being hit by, and explosives are yet another feasible counter-measure. Tricksters may try using armor with hidden guns inside to take thier opponent by suprise, especialy if it's some really bulky suit, or deploy turrets as low-tier minions to be both a pain in the arse and a good distraction that allows for scoring the killing shot. ...yeah, you probably already knew that all, but maybe not. XD


Technically, duel-wielding is a Hollywood gimmick that really only exists for Rule-of-Cool and nothing else. In reality, it's highly ineffective to duel wield most weapons, even swords, for the simple fact that using your other hand and arm to handle your weapon allows you to swing harder and faster, block with a shield, fire more accurate shots, reload easier (and faster), handle the recoil of your G3A3's rather savage kick when on full automatic, and throw grenades.

In general, holding and/or manipulating your weapon with both hands affords more control.
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And in reality, people can't dodge bullets, shoot energy beams out of their bodies, or heal from grievous bodily harm in moments. ;)
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And in reality, people can't dodge bullets, shoot energy beams out of their bodies, or heal from grievous bodily harm in moments. ;)


Meh.
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I know that it's a gimmick, but you just dont need that extra control for firearm weapons when you can both deadlift several tons, having MUSELS OF STIL and use a recoil dampening mechanism for the gun, like in the AA-12 shotgun.

EDIT: but yeah, reloading will be slower and you wont be able to chuck a grenade in a blink of the eye, even with straps and holsters. Still, not much of a tradeoff for having yet another reason to stick an extra bullet in their gullet.
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ASTA said
Technically, duel-wielding is a Hollywood gimmick that really only exists for Rule-of-Cool and nothing else. In reality, it's highly ineffective to duel wield most weapons, even swords, for the simple fact that using your other hand and arm to handle your weapon allows you to swing harder and faster, block with a shield, fire more accurate shots, reload easier (and faster), handle the recoil of your G3A3's rather savage kick when on full automatic, and throw grenades. In general, holding and/or manipulating your weapon with both hands affords more control.


Unless you're using lightsabers, or some other weapon which requires little to no physical force what-so-ever.

In which case, duel wield ftw.
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Schradinger said
And in reality, people can't dodge bullets, shoot energy beams out of their bodies, or heal from grievous bodily harm in moments. ;)


Boom.
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Actually, I personally have the ability to regenerate near instantaneously from any form of head wound.
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Sounds like Bovine scatological to me.
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Sounds like Bovine scatological to me.


Jelly bro.
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Jelly bro.


I'm an immortal undead, why would I be jealous?

You could be feeding the poor with that trick.
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I'm an immortal undead, why would I be jealous? You could be feeding the poor with that trick.


I do feed the poor, sometimes.

Well, they rip off my head and run away but I don't file a formal complaint.
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Skallagrim said
And Beta...who is going to fight you in space? Why go through the process when it will never come into play. I doubt your ship will be anything other than a plot device so you can travel between planets/dimensions etc.


I never had plans to use it in combat. If ever at all. I honestly just felt like fleshing the ship out because I like to have details on my CS. He has a ship, so I figured it deserved a little detail. Is that really so wrong? I was the one who put work into something that is unlikely to be used, not you. So why get all pissy with me? If it EVER comes into play, it will be S'kara glassing a region after a victory. Something about converting people to his death-cult.

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I was merely saying how Beta describing his ship in detail doesn't hinder anything.


^ this.

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Grammathon Cleric


You just gained respect, good sir.
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Hm.I thought in the OP it mentioned that players were able to summon minions and whatnot, as well as a 'general' or something. Though, I believe it mentioned that these could only be engaged in certain IC circumstances.


As a player, you can summon/create in your faction any number of “Minion” class or “Zero Level” creatures. These are the very basic and lowest tier of summoned/faction creatures. They cannot be commanded by you in combat and can be only given a basic order i.e. “Attack or Defend me.”

Your opponent will dispatch minion class creatures as they see fit and it does not take away from their normal attack in the fight. They are cannon fodder and as such will be treated this way.

You can have up to four Low Tier Leaders in your faction who fall under the normal rules for combat. Your opponent can defeat them but they must make an attack action as if they were normal low-tiered characters. These Leaders command the Minions.

You can have a single Equal Tiered faction/summoned character known as the General. This character will be treated as a normal non-critical character and can be commanded by you, however they cannot be the killing blow against your opponent nor can they do more damage than you do in a fight. They are always secondary to the main character or leader of the faction.

Factions are nice, but they are backdrop characters and support for the main character which should be you, they are not relevant and are expected to die horrible deaths in the course of the role-play. Hence, their status as non-critical characters, they should never be the focus of your fights, and should never take precedence over two critical characters in a fight.

Generic Zero tier NPCs that are used to flesh out a post are moddable by anyone regardless of the author as long as they are not a summoned or faction NPC. Faction and summoned NPC’s have their own rules sets.

Generic Zero tier NPCs have no inherent value other than to create drama and excitement in a post. If you are unsure about using NPCs ask the poster who has inserted them, if they are nothing more than flavor text you are able to use them as well in any manner that advances your post and the overall story in the thread.
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I see why Rilla hates you all, slowly I am swinging to his side.
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Skallagrim said
I see why Rilla hates you all, slowly I am swinging to his side.


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Rilla hates us all because he's lazy, you hate us because everyone wants to argue your rules all the time.
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Skallagrim said
I see why Rilla hates you all, slowly I am swinging to his side.


You're just hating people because it's the cool thing to do now. I was hating people before it became a fad.

Also. Gay innuendo.
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I hate you all for varying reasons.

Skally, did you see the finished(mostly, needs more mimicks) sheet?
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