[OOC] The Rebel Vampire

[TShara]

The way I'm imagining it, Vampires still drink water like anyone else, in addition to blood. Even if he's not allowed water now, he would still have to go from what he had drank before he was captured. I could go with that he won't die from dehydration, and would just basically feel sick and thirsty, if Alexi denies him that, but he would still have to go now. But yeah, I suppose it would work if he gave him a chamber pot.

Do you have any idea how long you want it to take before he starts needing blood? I'm thinking 48 hours for him to feel "hungry" and then by 72 hours it's basically like torture to not have it?

[PopeAlessandros]

I'd say moer like a day to feel "Hungry", 48 hours to start feeling the true blood lust, and yeah, by 72, he'll be a bit in hell over the hunger.

For me, and my understanding of vampires, they don't "Need" anything other than blood, so for me at least there would be no need to drink water, nor would they feel thirsty for anything but blood, but if you wanna go with needing to drink water for this RP, I don't mind.

[TShara]

There are like a thousand intepretations of vampires, so I'm going more with just a "different race of beings." They have roughly the same biological needs as humans, except they also have the need for blood.

[TShara]

So I finished my final, and was settling down to write a post for you, had it about half-done and was going to finish it up the next morning... but then (no joke), half my house burned down. It made the news and everything. So I sort of lost the post I had set up on my PC, and I'm super-busy helping my grandmother get things in order. I'm really sorry to keep you waiting again, as I was trying to make a concerted effort to speed things up on our stories, but real life is seriously WTF-ing us right now.

My grandad had major open-heart surgery on Monday as well, and he's in ICU now... so we had that going on, and then the house catches on fire and the police and fire department couldnt figure out why.

[PopeAlessandros]

Wow, if there ever was a reason for understanding about late posting, that is one. I hope everything will be alright for you, and your family. I pray for your grandpa, and I want you to know there is no need to feel rushed about replying to me. I am patient, and I know RL should always take precedent. Good luck on your final(I'm sure you did fine), and with everything else!

[TShara]

Thanks. Both of us that were in the house got out safely, and my grandmother is telling anyone who will listen that I "saved her life." Everyone that we know has been really awesome and supportive. We are staying with a neighbor who's like family to us. Lots of friends have been coming over to help in any way that they can. Even my online friends have been really supportive.

[TShara]

I'll be interested to see how Alexi is going to get Erik to take the potion... sounds like it's going to have to be a forced injection, because Erik would seriously die before taking a breaking potion willingly.

Have all sharp objects been removed from Alexi's room, basically anywhere even remotely within Erik's reach? Because within a couple of days, the pain will be so bad that he will be looking for ways to kill himself.

[PopeAlessandros]

Yep, I see Joseph as being thorough. I don't see him leaving anything within the guys reach that could hurt either him or Alexi. Save maybe chucking a book at him :P Also, umns, don't wanna tell you how to be your character, but I thought we agreed that after a while the lust become insatiable and he would drink without even really wanting to, just out of pure instinct? The breaking potion is mixed with Alexi's blood, so the smell alone would have a vampire interested, and if hungry enough, unable to stop himself.

[TShara]

Well... okay, if a human were starving, and there was food five feet away, but the human knew it was poisoned and would essentially make him a slave forever, would he eat it? That's basically the situation Erik will be in. I think the answer is, "it depends on the human." And in my mind, Erik did not become the leader of the local resistance by being weak-willed. So, in any case, it will at least take him a long time... I would think on the order of 10-12 days, to finally give in and drink it.

[PopeAlessandros]

That's applying a human will to a vampire's instincts. It may be just me, but I've always seen vampires as more slaves to their need for blood than a human is slave to their need to eat. It has nothing to do with being weak willed, it is simply a part of a vampire's nature. I have no problem however long you want it to take, but I don't want you thinking that drinking is, how to say, an insult to his pride. Does this make any sense? For me, after a point, it no longer comes down to the strength of his will. At a point, his mind and will have nothing to do with it, so. . . . . .He never would make the conscious decision to drink(I agree, he would never willingly consent to such a thing), more like he suddenly wakes up from a frenzy and he isn't as hungry as he was before. That way his pride is not wounded as bad, if at all, and . . . .Yeah. . . . .

[TShara]

I honestly think his pride will be wounded either way. He is a leader and someone that people have looked up to, and in a sense he feels that he is expected to be "better" than normal. So for him to "give in" to his urges, I think would be a very traumatic experience for him. I did consider allowing it to happen as he slept, or in subconscious daze, and I like that the same idea came to you independently, so I'll definitely include that.

Alright, so the first one is going to take 10-12 days, but gradually his own willpower will begin breaking down and the time intervals will get shorter. We can timeskip through some of it though.

[PopeAlessandros]

I'm glad you like my subconscious idea, and I hope you have fun working with it. I has no problem with time skipping, but no more than a day at a time. More than that leaves out many fun opportunities for interactions :P

[TShara]

In my post, Erik is going to try and say that Alexi doesn't have the right to do this. But in my mind, magical creatures are legally considered property, and there is no way they can escape that status, short of death. Capturing a vampire as your slave is no different than picking up an unclaimed iPad off the ground and calling it your own. Claimed slaves do have some protection under property rights, in that if they are already owned by a human, then harming, stealing, or killing them is a property crime against the owner. So actually, Alexi absolutely "has the right" to do what he is doing, but Erik was referring to moral right anyway.

Is all of that ok with you?

[PopeAlessandros]

Looks good, and I can feel Alexi's response already :P

[TShara]

Ahh, fun. I look forward to it. Sorry for the shorter post. It's really hard for me to get back into the "swing" of my stories after being out of them for so long. Between finals and the house burning down, it's been a while.

[TShara]

So I was wondering just how "honest" Joseph should be with Alexi, until I realized he doesn't have a choice. Even with soft breaking, he has to follow an order, and that was intended as a request, but phrased enough as an order that there's really no way for him to avoid it. To make things quick and easy, I'm going to decide that it interprets into complete honesty, even though if he had not said those "magic words," Joseph might have held something back. His thoughts are rather... more rebellious than Alexi expects, I think. Though he would still never betray the Vandros family or try to run away.

Valid question though. There were some pretty subtle hints in Mois' thoughts about a potential romance between him and Joseph. Was I interpreting those right, and if so, is that something you want to happen? I have trouble seeing it working, but I'm willing to work on the idea.

[PopeAlessandros]

Um, it's more like Mois is not adverse to the idea, but he's the kind of guy who could prolly go through his entire life just looking after his brother without seeking any intimate relationships of his own. I can tell you he would be happy if Joseph initiated such things, but Mois doesn't know that and could live his life just as happy if they don't. Well, unless the event takes place, then that would be the only joy he would ever have again. . . .But, the event's happening has not yet been decided is happening, so, yeah. . . .If you wanna, or if the story moves that way and you feel comfortable with it, then sure, it could happen, but he's not directly looking for it at the moment. I know the only way(From what I gather of you descriptions of him) the only way Joseph would initiate is if he falls in love then Mois tells him to be honest about his feelings, but hey, stuff happens :P

[TShara]

Alright, we will see then. I... really can't see Joseph initiating that kind of relationship. The reality of his station prevents it. He can never have a truly equal relationship with someone not of his station. Even if he fell in love with Mois, he would never reveal it, except maybe in circumstances like you described. And even if he did, he would not want to form a relationship because he doesn't think that it could ever be healthy. His position does make him very alone, however. He can't fraternize with other slaves either because his rank is above theirs.

Quite apart from all of that, he's sort of like a father to them, so that's makes things a little strange as well, dating someone that you still remember changing their diapers... though I suppose age difference makes less of a difference in vampire stories.

[PopeAlessandros]

I'm not feeling well, so sorry it may take a few more days to get up a response, sorry again. . . .

[TShara]

That's ok. I understand. Thanks for letting me know. I general I'm trying to get my RPing speed back up, but I totally understand that sometimes life gets in the way.

I hope you feel better! What's wrong exactly?