The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

[Vilageidiotx]

And it's a sh*t ideology, takes the cake for worst religion.

@Savato

Montezuma has something to say about that.

[Savato]

@Vilageidiotx Good thing they're not relevant anymore.

God forbid they sacrifice one of their zealots!

[Vilageidiotx]

@Vilageidiotx Good thing they're not relevant anymore.

God forbid they sacrifice one of their zealots!

@Savato

Could be relevant again. Don't let your guard down.

I kinda want to see somebody write a novel about a neo-fascist Mexican government that adopts nahuatl religious practices as part of their national mythos. That would be pretty boss.

[Dolerman]

The recent attacks in my country DEFINITELY have something to do with Islam.

And it's a sh*t ideology, takes the cake for worst religion.

@Savato

I don't know if its the worst but its definitely in the top 5

[Vilageidiotx]

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I don't know if its the worst but its definitely in the top 5

@Dynamo Frokane

It becomes really complicated by how many different flavors each religion comes equipped with. So yeh, ISIS style ultra-conservative Islam is pure poison. But that is complicated by the fact that most of the people actively fighting against ISIS are also Muslim. Likewise, western Christianity seems to have been more or less tamed in the last few hundred years, but at the same time there are still those fucks who blow up abortions clinics. There are even aggressive Buddhists out there ffs.

Personally I think religion tends to be a tribal thing in these cases. If we do end up going through another rash of fascistic nationalist movements, we can say it started with radical Islam, because really that's what those fuckers are playing at. It's like Sunni nationalism.

[Dolerman]

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It becomes really complicated by how many different flavors each religion comes equipped with. So yeh, ISIS style ultra-conservative Islam is pure poison. But that is complicated by the fact that most of the people actively fighting against ISIS are also Muslim. Likewise, western Christianity seems to have been more or less tamed in the last few hundred years, but at the same time there are still those fucks who blow up abortions clinics. There are even aggressive Buddhists out there ffs.

Personally I think religion tends to be a tribal thing in these cases. If we do end up going through another rash of fascistic nationalist movements, we can say it started with radical Islam, because really that's what those fuckers are playing at. It's like Sunni nationalism.

@Vilageidiotx

Yeah its not a black and white thing, but overall islam hasnt been beaten into tame submission by liberal western values like christianity has for the last 100 or so years. So even in its non extremist form, its still pretty shitty. Plus they don't have a new testament to backdoor all of their crappy verses.

[Slypheed]

I kinda want to see somebody write a novel about a neo-fascist Mexican government that adopts nahuatl religious practices as part of their national mythos. That would be pretty boss.

@Vilageidiotx

I'd read it.

[Dolerman]

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I'd read it.

@Slypheed

Sylpheed! Ive been looking all over for you!

[Vilageidiotx]

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Yeah its not a black and white thing, but overall islam hasnt been beaten into tame submission by liberal western values like christianity has for the last 100 or so years. So even in its non extremist form, its still pretty shitty. Plus they don't have a new testament to backdoor all of their crappy verses.

@Dynamo Frokane

I actually read the Quran and the Bible before. As far as their value systems go, they aren't as far away as popular media would have you believe. The way the Quran is written is that it is Muhammad giving commands to people during specific situations, which makes it sometimes unclear what is general and what is specific. For instance, the violent suras usually take place on battlefields, so when Muhammad is telling people to kill infidels its always in the context of him commanding troops in a battle. And that's all irrelevant anyway since infidels means pagans, whereas Christianity and Judaism are presented as good religions that should only be taxed. The Quran, however, is a fucking boring read because Muhammed doesn't have a very complicated message. Its basically "Fuck pagans, follow the law, only worship God." In fact you could read the first Sura and you've pretty much read the book. That only takes about an hour or so to do. The rest of that shit is redundant.

I feel like the real problem with Islam is that the middle east and the Arab world is more uncomfortable with globalism than anybody else is. Extremism is a focusing lens for all the anger that people in the region have against the west, particularly our forcing Israel upon them. Not saying this as an excuse obviously; killing civilians is always fucked up, and none of the people killed in terrorist attacks have had anything to do with the policies that are pissing off modern Muslims. Christianity doesn't have this effect because Christianity was born out of the culture that is globally dominate.

Another interesting thing I got from a book I read about the rise of ISIS is that there is a conspiracy theory popularly believed in the Sunni world that The West, Israel, and the Shia are conspiring the commit genocide on the Sunnis. The uneven way the Iraqi occupation was handled has largely driven the people of northern Iraq into the hands of extremist Jihadism. That's the reason the region was so quick to fall into ISIS hands when it did.

Which is to say this shit is really complicated. Very few people are evil just for shits and giggles. You don't try to identify why somebody is doing something because you are soft or weak or whatever. Rather, the real reasons for behavior can give you the map to fixing the problem, whereas simplistic stereotyping and reactions will lead you astray and complicate the entire matter. So whereas I have no interest in defending the religion itself, I do feel oversimplifying is dangerous because our most important allies against extremist Islam are the non-extremist Muslims. You don't want to paint, say, the Iraqi government or Rojava with the same brush you paint ISIS, lest you lose these important allies.

[Slypheed]

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Sylpheed! Ive been looking all over for you!

@Dynamo Frokane

You obviously haven't looked hard enough :P

[Dolerman]

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You obviously haven't looked hard enough :P

@Slypheed

wanna join my racing RP?

[Dolerman]

@ClocktowerEchos

[Gowi]

Threads focused on unpopular opinions generally, in my experience, are always nonsensical garbage— with few exceptions. I suppose the irony is that my unpopular opinion is on a thread about unpopular opinions; it’s not lost on me. It is nice to see that people continue this trend on RPG.

[Weird Tales]

#PokemonLivesMatter

[Dinh AaronMk]

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Could be relevant again. Don't let your guard down.

I kinda want to see somebody write a novel about a neo-fascist Mexican government that adopts nahuatl religious practices as part of their national mythos. That would be pretty boss.

@Vilageidiotx

I for one want to see someone canonize the Eternal Fire as a legit religion in the real world.

[Vilageidiotx]

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I for one want to see someone canonize the Eternal Fire as a legit religion in the real world.

@Dinh AaronMk

the night is dark and full of terrors

[Dinh AaronMk]

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the night is dark and full of terrors

@Vilageidiotx

Well I was thinking more along the lines of...



And the...



Of the Witcher world, so I supposed I overlooked the confusion part. You know, more burning wizards and killing elves and dwarves because #HumanityBestManity

Originally I was going to suggest the Nilfgaardian Sun Cult, but that only appears in symbol form so I can't really drop that and expect someone to pick up on suggestions of Emperor Emyr var Emries having done nothing wrong. But it appears I overlooked the Eternal Fire bit too.

[Vilageidiotx]

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Well I was thinking more along the lines of...



And the...



Of the Witcher world, so I supposed I overlooked the confusion part. You know, more burning wizards and killing elves and dwarves because #HumanityBestManity

Originally I was going to suggest the Nilfgaardian Sun Cult, but that only appears in symbol form so I can't really drop that and expect someone to pick up on suggestions of Emperor Emyr var Emries having done nothing wrong. But it appears I overlooked the Eternal Fire bit too.

@Dinh AaronMk

pfft, thats just polish knock off of asoiaf. the night is still dark and still filled with terrors.

[Dinh AaronMk]

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pfft, thats just polish knock off of asoiaf. the night is still dark and still filled with terrors.

@Vilageidiotx

[Slypheed]

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wanna join my racing RP?

@Dynamo Frokane

Is this being asked because you wanted to see Valeriya show off her crazy driving skills?