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false! by the time he notices that he's fighting he won't be able to use magic... i'm surprised you underestimate ysmir so much... and besides, ysmir's magic can go unnoticed until it's too late and then he'll be left defenseless...


He already knows everything Ysmir is going to do. Remember?
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He already knows everything Ysmir is going to do. Remember?


not quite. the char was gifted with time travel not fortune seeing. in order for him to see what will happen then he'd have to travel forward in time in either case he'd still lose because he wouldn't know what the fuck is going on or why he can't use magic or why does his head feel like exploding.... you whine about how op the chronomancy is but you underestimate the power of sound as a weapon
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not quite. the char was gifted with time travel not fortune seeing. in order for him to see what will happen then he'd have to travel forward in time in either case he'd still lose because he wouldn't know what the fuck is going on or why he can't use magic or why does his head feel like exploding.... you whine about how op the chronomancy is but you underestimate the power of sound as a weapon


Basically, you're saying you can instantly neutralize anyone's magic?

And I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that this character could end all life on earth with a snap of his fingers.
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Basically, you're saying you can instantly neutralize anyone's magic?And I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that this character could end all life on earth with a snap of his fingers.


pretty much, but i'm not gonna go into detail other than to say that both chars are massively op but both were accepted :P
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pretty much, but i'm not gonna go into detail other than to say that both chars are massively op but both were accepted :P


Alright. However, if we're going by the assumption that pain causes people to be unable to use magic, then that applies to your character as well.

Effectively, whomever attacks first wins, because it's so easy to neutralize someone's magic, and once you have, you've won.
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Alright. However, if we're going by the assumption that pain causes people to be unable to use magic, then that applies to your character as well.Effectively, whomever attacks first wins, because it's so easy to neutralize someone's magic, and once you have, you've won.


not really, i did some studying (i know! i can read :D! but seriously) and i could directly affect someone's brain without them noticing until they were near dead (or when they tried to cast spells and they failed) and it's not pain, it was the fact that he wouldn't have been able to breath....
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not really, i did some studying (i know! i can read :D! but seriously) and i could directly affect someone's brain without them noticing until they were near dead (or when they tried to cast spells and they failed) and it's not pain, it was the fact that he wouldn't have been able to breath....


Not breathing..... prevents magic? How does that work?!
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Not breathing..... prevents magic? How does that work?!


you ever tried to play chess while getting choked the fuck out by an mma fighter? that would be the equivalent....
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you ever tried to play chess while getting choked the fuck out by an mma fighter? that would be the equivalent....


Not really. When choking, you're applying physical force. While being incapable to breathe is quite certainly disturbing and shocking, unless you're close to suffocation, you'll still be able to think relatively clearly, esspecially if you've been trained to do so. Furthermore, how is your magic supposed to be stealthy if it makes people unable to breathe? I don't know about you, but if I couldn't breathe, I'd notice.
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Not really. When choking, you're applying physical force. While being incapable to breathe is quite certainly disturbing and shocking, unless you're close to suffocation, you'll still be able to think relatively clearly, esspecially if you've been trained to do so. Furthermore, how is your magic supposed to be stealthy if it makes people unable to breathe? I don't know about you, but if I couldn't breathe, I'd notice.


because it can be applyed in slow increments by gradually increasing the volume at a subsonic level that can actually blow your head up if it goes too far :3 also, i'm saying an average dude being forced to win a chess match while he's being choked the fuck out by an mma fighter would be the equivalent of casting even the weakest fire ball... and translocation magic is very complex and difficult to do even with your char's training... simply put: when the nigga starts getting chocked the fuck out by shit he can't fucking see then he can't do shit
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because it can be applyed in slow increments by gradually increasing the volume at a subsonic level that can actually blow your head up if it goes too far :3 also, i'm saying an average dude being forced to win a chess match while he's being choked the fuck out by an mma fighter would be the equivalent of casting even the weakest fire ball... and translocation magic is very complex and difficult to do even with your char's training... simply put: when the nigga starts getting chocked the fuck out by shit he can't fucking see then he can't do shit


forgive me... the black in me was just held back from chocking a bitch... *coughs a bit before righting myself*
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because it can be applyed in slow increments by gradually increasing the volume at a subsonic level that can actually blow your head up if it goes too far :3 also, i'm saying an average dude being forced to win a chess match while he's being choked the fuck out by an mma fighter would be the equivalent of casting even the weakest fire ball... and translocation magic is very complex and difficult to do even with your char's training... simply put: when the nigga starts getting chocked the fuck out by shit he can't fucking see then he can't do shit


No, I call serious bullshit on this. I've been pushed under in a pool. I wasn't prepared for it, and I couldn't breathe. But I could still think. And I don't know about you, but to Jake magic is second nature. Teleporting things is as easy as thinking about teleporting things. It's not something you learn, or an acquired skill. It's an instinctive thing in your genetic code. You may have your magic differ from this, but Jake uses magic instinctively, and once he feels in danger, he teleports away. Kind of like how you pull back your hand reflexively when you touch something that burns you, except he pulls it back into another dimension.

And we weren't talking about Jake, we were talking about the chronomage. While I call bullshit on the whole "lack of breath=lack of magic" think, the chronomage could defeat Yssmir with ease.
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forgive me... the black in me was just held back from chocking a bitch... *coughs a bit before righting myself*


???
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No, I call serious bullshit on this. I've been pushed under in a pool. I wasn't prepared for it, and I couldn't breathe. But I could still think. And I don't know about you, but to Jake magic is second nature. Teleporting things is as easy as thinking about teleporting things. It's not something you learn, or an acquired skill. It's an instinctive thing in your genetic code. You may have your magic differ from this, but Jake uses magic instinctively, and once he feels in danger, he teleports away. Kind of like how you pull back your hand reflexively when you touch something that burns you, except he pulls it back into another dimension.And we weren't talking about Jake, we were talking about the chronomage. While I call bullshit on the whole "lack of breath=lack of magic" think, the chronomage could defeat Yssmir with ease.


fine, but the fact that i can actually fuck with your brain kinda makes the argument invalid >.> anyway.... pretty much everyone on here is op if their powers are used right... especially jake since he effectivly can't be hurt by anyone that can't disable magic in some way... also, i've been under the water too, it wasn't so bad, kinda relaxing really until he put his feet on my shoulders... then i was a wee bit pissed...

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???


watch a black stand up comedian... then you will understand...
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fine, but the fact that i can actually fuck with your brain kinda makes the argument invalid >.> anyway.... pretty much everyone on here is op if their powers are used right... especially jake since he effectivly can't be hurt by anyone that can't disable magic in some way... also, i've been under the water too, it wasn't so bad, kinda relaxing really until he put his feet on my shoulders... then i was a wee bit pissed...watch a black stand up comedian... then you will understand...


Unless you can specifically target the part of the brain that he uses to cast magic and disable it, cause unconsciousness instantly, or in some other way prevent someone from all thought and action, then you can't really truly nullify magic.
And yes, Jake is very hard to kill, as all teleporting characters are. Anyone who can leave a combat at will at any time is hard to kill. The only real way to kill him is to use the element of surprise, like sniping him from a building.
And your experience just fortifies my point.
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Unless you can specifically target the part of the brain that he uses to cast magic and disable it, cause unconsciousness instantly, or in some other way prevent someone from all thought and action, then you can't really truly nullify magic.And yes, Jake is very hard to kill, as all teleporting characters are. Anyone who can leave a combat at will at any time is hard to kill. The only real way to kill him is to use the element of surprise, like sniping him from a building.And your experience just fortifies my point.


i have obscene amount of lung size and you know it! and i effectively scramble his brains... or blow them up... depends on how fine tuned i get it...
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i have obscene amount of lung size and you know it! and i effectively scramble his brains... or blow them up... depends on how fine tuned i get it...


If you blow up his brains, then he is dead. If Jake dies, he will no longer be able to cast spells.

However, you've said before that it requires time to take effect, and nothing so serious is completely unnoticed.
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If you blow up his brains, then he is dead. If Jake dies, he will no longer be able to cast spells.However, you've said before that it requires time to take effect, and nothing so serious is completely unnoticed.


not really, it takes time to make sure he doesn't notice it :3 i can just blair a subsonic frequency in his head and it'll explode... but that'd be too easy :3
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not really, it takes time to make sure he doesn't notice it :3 i can just blair a subsonic frequency in his head and it'll explode... but that'd be too easy :3


So you can effectively instakill anyone at will?
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So you can effectively instakill anyone at will?


yeah, but that wouldn't be fair now would it? :3
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