Rigging the Election: The Clinton Campaign and DNC incite violence at Trump Rallies

[The Dow Dragon]

This is disturbing as hell, I knew Hillary was a liar but I didn't think she would go to such corruption. Trump may say some crazy shit, but at least he isn't a corrupt power hungry psycho.

[Vilageidiotx]

This is a regurgitation of old news. I can remember this story back when the KC Trump Rally went sour in, like, February or March or whenever that was.

Despite being a copy-paste, it could be interesting if it gets traction. I feel like elections involve a sort of natural pull for equilibrium, so if there are some people nominally supporting Hillary or undecided because they can't find an excuse to support Trump, this could be their way back to their standard team.

But that really depends. Strict polling says Trump is up pussy creek without a paddle. But could there be a lot of reasonable Trump supporters embarrassed by the guy and his main base? Or are there some who cannot jibe Trump's behavior with their values and are abstaining from voting? (I know a few of these). If that is a significant enough group of people, maybe we might see some poll fluctuations based on this.

On the other hand, there is the possibility too that, with all of the talk about Hillary's character over the years, the right may have accidentally inoculated the general population to her seedier side. As in, everyone who isn't going to vote for Clinton because of corruption is already not voting for her, and nobody is particularly shocked when a bad Clinton story breaks

This has been a fun election year either way.

[The Dow Dragon]

@Vilageidiotx You say old news, but that article was literally posted today, which is the same day this video was posted. And yeah I suppose, but maybe some of Hillary's supporters who had been fooling themselves up until now will see how crazy she is.

[Vilageidiotx]

@Vilageidiotx You say old news, but that article was literally posted today, which is the same day this video was posted. And yeah I suppose, but maybe some of Hillary's supporters who had been fooling themselves up until now will see how crazy she is.

@The Dow Dragon

Woops, I picked a new article from a nest of old ones. Here is one from a major source.

I very very much doubt Trump will shake much from registered Dems, and certainly not any meaningful number of people who supported Hillary since the beginning of this cycle. Things like this aren't brand new. (Cite1) (Cite2). And of course, beyond that there is the haunting memory of 1968. Not to mention decades if not centuries of politicians accusing others of faking votes from the dead, or voting multiple times, which proceeds from the old Machine Politics era of the late 19th and early 20th who's corruption makes the Clinton machine look like the boy scouts.

But that's the background. Needless to say, it's going to take something absolutely unthinkable to break Clinton's core support. For this to affect her it has to hit supporters outside the core; the Never-Trump people, the until-recently-undecideds, and the unaffiliated Bernie supporting her would need to be so loosely supporting her that they are looking for a reason to defect. That could very well be true; considering that her favorability level is low. Polls a week from now will tell. I won't make a confident prediction, but lets just say this; if you held a gun to my head and forced me to guess how this would play out, I'd say I expect this to glance right off her numbers like they were written in stone. I think at this point, the only remotely possible way of her losing this thing is actual prosecution.

[Heat]

It's a James O'Keefe video, the guy isn't known as the most credible of people. He's really good at editing his videos though. Might want to wait a little bit to see how (if at all) authentic this latest video is.

[Dolerman]

#MakeAmericaGropeAgain

[KnightShade]

So this is shady as fuck, but having said that I do have some problems with the connected arguments.

One, the fact that these people bait violence at rallies doesn't excuse violence at rallies, which is something Trump has encouraged.

Two, you've not actually connected it in anyway to electoral rigging. Electoral rigging is a different thing, and a very serious accusation to throw around without providing evidence.

Either way I'm glad I'm not an American right now, because regardless me thinking one option is better, your voting options are still terrible.

This is a regurgitation of old news.

@Vilageidiotx

This was actually doubly a poor choice of article; abcnews.com.co is a satirical news site.

[Vilageidiotx]

This was actually doubly a poor choice of article; abcnews.com.co is a satirical news site.

@KnightShade

Goddamnit. I knew that too. The writer is fucking "Jimmy Rustling."

I just googled something like "Trump protestors paid March" and grabbed an article next to the ones with less credible looking names forgetting to check the date. I just remember this stuff so I half-assedly google because I figure others remember it too.

Two, you've not actually connected it in anyway to electoral rigging. Electoral rigging is a different thing, and a very serious accusation to throw around without providing evidence.

This is pretty worrisome. We've dealt with it on the small scale since, like, forever. But the narrative Trump is spinning right now, that if he loses then the election is illegitimate, is the sort of thing that kills constitutional governments. We'd be banking on that narrative only catching up with his core and turning off moderate Republicans. That, and the military ultimately being loyal to the electorate rather than Trump.

[KnightShade]

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Goddamnit. I knew that too. The writer is fucking "Jimmy Rustling."

I just googled something like "Trump protestors paid March" and grabbed an article next to the ones with less credible looking names forgetting to check the date. I just remember this stuff so I half-assedly google because I figure others remember it too.

@Vilageidiotx

I didn't know it was satirical until I got half way down and it turned into a rant about Snopes. American politics looks that much look satire right now. Not the clever Private Eye or The Thick of It kind either, the shitty internet trolling/annoying misinformation kind.

[Gwynbleidd]

No, I suppose baiting violence at rallies does not excuse violence at rallies. However, if you provoke and get a response you are not an innocent party as the media seems to enjoy painting. If there is truth to Trump's comments about certain protestors coming in and actually being violent first, then there's a problem. This is not a one-sided issue, and there are a litany of double-digit minute videos of anti-Trump protestors being extremely violent outside of Trump rallies yet they do not get nearly the same coverage. There's a nation-wide media preference of Hillary Clinton that's nearly undeniable at this point. I'd rather vote for Trump than I would Clinton for some of the content in these leaked emails are to be taken with absolute seriousness.

[TheMadAsshatter]

I have to wonder how many write-ins there'll be this election.

You know what, in a mix of good humor and legitimate frustration, I think I'm going to write in James Tiberius Kirk.

[Keyguyperson]

I have to wonder how many write-ins there'll be this election.

You know what, in a mix of good humor and legitimate frustration, I think I'm going to write in James Tiberius Kirk.

@TheMadAsshatter

What, you didn't hear about that scandal he had with the Orion woman? How could anyone vote for a man like THAT?

[BrokenPromise]

I'm looking at my mail-in election ballet right now and there are six people we can vote for.

It's a shame that everyone is going to vote Trump or Hillary simply because those two get the most coverage, and nobody wants to "waist" their vote on someone with no chance of winning. We have four other candidates that big media simply doesn't want to discuss.

[Vilageidiotx]

I have to wonder how many write-ins there'll be this election.

You know what, in a mix of good humor and legitimate frustration, I think I'm going to write in James Tiberius Kirk.

@TheMadAsshatter

#I'mWithPicard

[Keyguyperson]

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#I'mWithPicard

@Vilageidiotx

The only option is clearly Benjamin Sisko. He doesn't fuck around, and tells it like it is. He's going to completely destroy the Dominion, Picard is too afraid to send out a fleet!

[Dinh AaronMk]

#ReviveEarlBrowder
#ElectBrowder2016

He'll make America righteous again.

[Gwynbleidd]

YEEZUS

[ArenaSnow]

I blame the american people for putting us in such a shitty situation with two genuinely shitty choices in the first place. Like, seriously, what the fuck? Why am I living here?

[Vilageidiotx]

YEEZUS

@Dark Wind

With Trump, we may just have opened that door.

2024: Kanye West for the Dems, Ted Nugent for the Reps

[BrokenPromise]

Found my write-in candidate: