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"We've all heard the stories of Samson leveling a temple with a single push, or the philistine weapon of mass destruction named Goliath. Once these beings lived among us, destroying nations and raising kings. And now history is repeating itself. Superman was a beacon for them to creep back out of the shadows. The next war will be fought by these Metahumans, ours or theirs. But if we can't control them, they won't be fighting for us, we'll be fighting for them."
- Amanda Waller, Director of Checkmate, classified briefing to the President of the United States, the National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers"
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The central conceit of this roleplay is basically Game of Thrones or Crusader Kings meets DC Comics. Whether its making agreements in boardrooms, stealing secrets, manipulating propaganda, taking advantage of the underworld, building economic interests, brokering alliances, blackmailing and betraying one another, fighting in battles, or undergoing illicit affairs, the deeds of your characters both heroic, villainous, and anywhere in between will shape the course of history. Your choices will determine which side gains the upper hand over the course of the conflict, how that conflict is resolved, and what the new world order might look like. As well as the fate of the factions within each coalitions and the nations they control.

This RP draws from every compatible DC continuity. You can play characters and introduce concepts from the DC animated tv shows, the films, the video games, the live action shows, and every divergent continuity and elseworld story such as Watchmen, the Wildstorm universe, Vertigo, and more. If you want to use characters and elements that are more legendary or mythological in nature or even from classic public domain literature, you are welcome to introduce them as well. You will have a chance to collaborate with other players to build up the RP's mythos. We're assuming that the main generation heroes started their careers in their twenties in 2013 and have aged from then into the year 2040, so Dick Grayson and Supergirl and all the others would be fully mature by now and might have their own kids.

You can play a canon character or play an OC to your heart's content. These OCs can be connected to canon mythology or not, if you want to play Batman and Catwoman's love child go for it, but keep backstories open so other PCs can use that canon too. You can play more than one character to start with, with the only caveat being that if you play multiple characters you must have an equal amount on both sides of the conflict. You may put PCs in reserve as you wish but I would retain the right to use them in the story. I'm toying around with the idea of allowing players to take control of superhuman dynasties and families for roleplay. I highly encourage you collaborate among yourselves to develop cohesive shared histories for your PCs and to collaborate in the RP in general. Conniving, scheming, deal-making, and such are all encouraged but no meta-gaming. Romances are also encouraged as we all know that a big part of intrigue happens after dark.

There will be real consequences in this RP and just as your character can rise in power, wealth, and influence, they can also be imprisoned, ostracized, or crippled by the events of the RP if you are not careful. Your character might even get killed if you perform poorly enough but this would be very rare. And it really is up to your collective efforts how the events shake down. The primary arc of the RP would be the American affairs with some other side quests. Whichever side wins the election will gain a huge advantage, and the side missions will decide the landscape of the roleplay going forward as I plan to have multiple iterations of the thread that are all influenced by previous threads.

So there you have it, I see a lot of potential in this RP and hopefully I get enough interest to make it a reality. If you're not a hardcore fan of DC, you don't need an encyclopedic knowledge of the mythos to play the game and I would be willing to assist with lore questions as others would be no doubt. Anyone interested?

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Possible interest. Have no idea who I'd go with, but for the moment I'm leaning towards either the Arrow Family (with Connor Hawke as the main POV) or Hal Jordan. Either way, I'm keeping my eye on this. Getting some major Kingdom Come vibes. I like it. :P
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Interested, as either Wally West (Now equally a Flash, possible with Impulse (YJ Style) as KF or simply playing Bart Allen) or Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes) with possible Ted Kord associations.
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I tried to do something like this once. I called it Ragnarok and played a version of Captain America whose mission was to contain Superman. Good fun. Digression aside, you have my interest.
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Excited at the prospect, got ideas running through my head. It's nice to see a more original comic book RP lurking around.
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@GreenGrenade Kingdom Come is one of the major inspirations for the story line and one of my favorite comics overall. There's also quite a bit of Flashpoint, Watchmen, TDKR, All-Star Superman, and Justice League Unlimited mixed in too. The RP also runs on the idea that all Myths, Legends, and Fairy Tales are true to some extent.

The Arrow family would be great to see, I could see Connor Hawke becoming the primary Green Arrow and perhaps he has a sister who is the new Black Canary like in the KC comic. If we're going with KC, I could see Hal being a lot like Alan Scott was in the story, after nearly 30 years, Hal should be pretty formidable.

@Sep The Flash family would be awesome, I'm curious to see what they would all be like in the prime of adulthood. Barry's kids would be mature enough to be heroes by now too and there's also Jesse Quick, Max Mercury, and other speedsteers associated with the Flash family. I think Wally's kids would be teenaged by now and if Bart came into the RP naturally he'd be a kid, but YJ style would be cool.

In addition to the actual heroes, you guys could also play the families of their villains to even things out.

@Nightrunner If you've ever read Grant Morrison's Multiversity, there are some characters who are pretty much Marvel expies. Marvel characters aren't going to be in here but there are tons of canon characters who are very similar to characters in Marvel and of course there's always OCs. Do you have any ideas for a character?

I'm glad this has gotten a little interest, but I think I need at least one or two more players for this to have enough momentum to move forward. Since a couple have already wanted to play heroes, I'm looking to play a prominent villain myself. Maybe Lex and his possible family unless someone else wants to play them.
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@Sep The Flash family would be awesome, I'm curious to see what they would all be like in the prime of adulthood. Barry's kids would be mature enough to be heroes by now too and there's also Jesse Quick, Max Mercury, and other speedsteers associated with the Flash family. I think Wally's kids would be teenaged by now and if Bart came into the RP naturally he'd be a kid, but YJ style would be cool.

In addition to the actual heroes, you guys could also play the families of their villains to even things out.
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In terms of Flash family with it being 2040 I wasn't quite sure if I was going to go with Don and Dawn Allen being heroes, active or at all. Simply as I don't want to throw too many speedsters into the mix. I mean Flash (Barry) likely is still in prime condition but I was avoiding touching him as he'd likely be a head honcho of the JL.

An idea I was toying with was Blue Beetle as then there's the whole idea of it being a Legacy but also being solo, and the fun of the Scarab being in control at one point or another (and if I went the route of the Reach being allied with the Legion of Doom he could initially start on one side and move to the other).
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@GreenGrenade Kingdom Come is one of the major inspirations for the story line and one of my favorite comics overall. There's also quite a bit of Flashpoint, Watchmen, TDKR, All-Star Superman, and Justice League Unlimited mixed in too. The RP also runs on the idea that all Myths, Legends, and Fairy Tales are true to some extent.

The Arrow family would be great to see, I could see Connor Hawke becoming the primary Green Arrow and perhaps he has a sister who is the new Black Canary like in the KC comic. If we're going with KC, I could see Hal being a lot like Alan Scott was in the story, after nearly 30 years, Hal should be pretty formidable.

I do have another idea for the Arrow Family involving an older Oliver as the main POV, but I'd rather see if anyone was interested in running Black Canary first, as she's pretty important to that idea and I wouldn't want to deprive anyone of the chance to play her just because. Unless I'm allowed to throw an app up and see how it goes, in which case, neat.

Yeah, with Hal I have a wearier guy in mind, trying to maintain relations between the GLC and JLU. I have a feeling that the Guardians (and he) won't be all too comfortable with such intimate arrangements between Earth and Oa.
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@Sep I imagine with the situation being as tense as it is, Don and Dawn would probably be active, but you don't have to personally play them. They could always be in reserve or NPCs for characters you do control to bounce off of.

I imagine the Reach would be part of the Legion's allies and Jaime could be an unwitting sleeper agent and switch sides and possibly switch back at some point. Ted Kord may or may not still be around also.

@GreenGrenade I'm thinking of having it so that one player can be the leader of a family and other players can have PCs in that family so that we can have interactions and conflict within families as well. So you could play Ollie and another player may or may not play BC, and you could have her as an NPC or reserve PC if nobody does.

If players come in later wanting to play a PC within a family already led by another player, perhaps they could bring it up with that family's leader. I'm trying out roleplaying as whole families in order to get a broad scope of gameplay so the idea is being fine tuned, and I'm open to suggestions and input.

Hal would be a pretty central character in the JLU so, I'm all for someone playing him and seeing where it goes. I'm also curious where Carol and the other Lanterns would fit into the picture.
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@MrDidact I'm interested. May go for a Roy Harper character, but with a twist to him. Making him a very young prodigy that seemingly started doing his own crime fighting thing until Green Arrow took him under his wing.
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@Chaotic Chao That'd be interesting but the RP itself is almost 30 years in the future, the original Roy would be well into his career and his daughter Lian would be all grown up by now. A lot of the RP is focused on the sense of shared history and legacy and that would be kind of lost if Roy was still a teen while Ollie is in middle age now.

You could always play an OC who is part of the Arrow family or who is taken under their wing later. I'd prefer canon PCs to be aged appropriately but that isn't stopping anyone from playing a canon character's child or associate who is younger. The shorthand I had in mind is that the big guns of DC, Superman, Batman etc, started their careers in their twenties in 2013 and now they're almost thirty years older, everyone else would follow suit.

One more player is a good enough base to start, but of course the RP will always remain open. Other players are welcome to play Legion PCs, we need more of those.
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I imagine with the situation being as tense as it is, Don and Dawn would probably be active, but you don't have to personally play them. They could always be in reserve or NPCs for characters you do control to bounce off of.


I suppose it depends on how much I follow the comic books in terms of Don and Dawn in whether they are present in this timeline because #speedsters. Wally would be one I'd definitely use, partly due to him becoming the Flash but he also has an interesting twist compared to the traditional Barry Allen, in that he's slightly faster and has some abilities Barry doesn't but also lacks other abilities Barry has.

In terms of Blue Beetle that's exactly what I was thinking, other than Speedsters I enjoy playing characters who have some form of internal struggle, and Jaime with the Scarab is a good example of that. Depending on whether or not the Reach have already had a go at him to get him under their control or not as it kinda defeats the gravitas if it's been done before, or alternatively if if I went the Blue Beetle route I could have him start as a bad guy.... Blue Beetle (Jaime) is one I'd only really go depending on what other people went as.
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@Sep As much as I love these stories, I think the timey-wimey hi-jinks would be better off left out at this point in the interest of not being overly convoluted and preserving our collective sanity. That's just my opinion though.

Yeah I foresee Barry taking a step back into more of an advisory role than an active one where Wally is now the primary Flash. Out of curiosity would you make Wally black like he's been recently in tv and comics?

Well the Reach could have been whispering in his ears all these years, so he doesn't even know he's being influenced at first. If you want an outright villainous version of Blue Beetle, there's also that Black Beetle character from the YJ tv show that was a pretty cool antagonist. Just an idea. If Ted is still around and let's just assume he is to preserve possibilities, I could see him still being a mentor figure to Jaime who might try to help him out. And of course there's always Booster who could be this Blue Beetle's partner as well.
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@MrDidact Understood.
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@MrDidact I got ideas. Will wait for an OOC
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such RP

much interest

wow
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Well, I'm really considering a version of The Scarecrow who's grown accustomed to a certain amount of respect and order within his own realm, and enforces his own laws with a surprising amount of justice and mercy. Ironically taking cues from The Batman himself by personally confronting his foes with a physical presence as formidable as his intellect. By becoming the authority figure, the Batman of his own domain, he really strikes a more relishing brand of fear into the hearts of his foes.

Otherwise I was considering an alternate, Vertigo-ey take on The Rainbow Raider, where he visits worlds that exists within colors and photos, but beyond what can be seen by the naked eye (thanks to his goggles). Inspired by Gaiman's Sandman or Milligan's Shade, The Changing Man.
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@Polyphemus Poly, old buddy, old pal, it'll be great to play this game with you.

@Nightrunner That would depend on whether or not Scarecrow is still in America at this point. If he's still stateside he could be a crime baron per usual but if he went abroad, I could see him establishing himself as a dictator. It's an interesting idea. I kind of wonder what Scarecrow's potential kids would be like too.

Sandman and Shade are both compatible with the RP, the Endless are part of the mythos, but that's a very interesting idea. When it comes to human technology I would like things to be somewhat feasible. But maybe his goggles would be some kind of alien artifact or mystic object.

I think we have enough interest to get started but people can jump in at any time, I should have an OOC up in two days at the latest.

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I'm thinking I still want to go with Black Manta like we talked about. One of the original thirteen founders of the Legion of Doom, leader of his own fiefdom, playing his own agenda.
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@Polyphemus Poly, old buddy, old pal, it'll be great to play this game with you.

@Nightrunner That would depend on whether or not Scarecrow is still in America at this point. If he's still stateside he could be a crime baron per usual but if he went abroad, I could see him establishing himself as a dictator. It's an interesting idea. I kind of wonder what Scarecrow's potential kids would be like too.

Sandman and Shade are both compatible with the RP, the Endless are part of the mythos, but that's a very interesting idea. When it comes to human technology I would like things to be somewhat feasible. But maybe his goggles would be some kind of alien artifact or mystic object.

I think we have enough interest to get started but people can jump in at any time, I should have an OOC up in two days at the latest.


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