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You can fit Majin if you just fudge a bit of the lore a bit since technically NO ONE knows where Majin Buu came from with the current lore. And since Majin means Demon, I think Buu was just some Majin who went feral after being 'purified' with an experiment from the Demon Realm and was sent to the normal universe to avoid destruction there. Majin normally are the chefs/servants/ext of the demon realm since they don't have much of a lust for power unlike Dabora/Towa's race due to their Fat Buu playful/Food loving personalities.

Makes sense as to why there are so many Majin in Xenoverse and why Female Majin exist. (I know about the DBO thing, but XV2 is the closest thing to the west they have and Buu makes NO FEMALE Majin in that one.) Plus adds some much needed lore to both Majin AND the Demon Realm.
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Interested. I'll keep tabs on this roleplay. I'm a huge Gohan fan myself.
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You can fit Majin if you just fudge a bit of the lore a bit since technically NO ONE knows where Majin Buu came from with the current lore. And since Majin means Demon, I think Buu was just some Majin who went feral after being 'purified' with an experiment from the Demon Realm and was sent to the normal universe to avoid destruction there. Majin normally are the chefs/servants/ext of the demon realm since they don't have much of a lust for power unlike Dabora/Towa's race due to their Fat Buu playful/Food loving personalities.

Makes sense as to why there are so many Majin in Xenoverse and why Female Majin exist. (I know about the DBO thing, but XV2 is the closest thing to the west they have and Buu makes NO FEMALE Majin in that one.) Plus adds some much needed lore to both Majin AND the Demon Realm.


Problem with a Majin is the same as the problem with a member of Frieza's race. There's no way they'd be weak enough to fit the scope of this RP. At least not starting out, if the idea is that we start weak - like Frieza Army weak (So, PL's of less than 10K)

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Problem with a Majin is the same as the problem with a member of Frieza's race. There's no way they'd be weak enough to fit the scope of this RP. At least not starting out, if the idea is that we start weak - like Frieza Army weak (So, PL's of less than 10K)


Well Freeza's race can be that weak as apparently Freeza was just a prodigy AND a mutant or something like that.

As for Majin. Could say the same thing about Buu, or the Majin just isn't well trained or something. I mean the CaCs in Xenoverse have trouble with Raditz at the start :P. And thats RADITZ xD
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I wouldn't put games on a pedestal. A normal human can handle Beerus in a straight up fight.
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I wouldn't put games on a pedestal. A normal human can handle Beerus in a straight up fight.


Well sure, just wish on the dragonballs to be half sayan and there you go xD. Thats what the cannon was in DBO from what I can remember, every human was like 1/128th sayan or something.

Yeah Dragonball is all over the place, but toryaiama says as much anyway so eh.
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It would be very interesting to see a DBZ game actually get off the ground and last longer than 2 weeks. They tend to die instantly. Also, it would be nice to have a dedicated GM running it that won't disappear for long periods.
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Well Freeza's race can be that weak as apparently Freeza was just a prodigy AND a mutant or something like that.

As for Majin. Could say the same thing about Buu, or the Majin just isn't well trained or something. I mean the CaCs in Xenoverse have trouble with Raditz at the start :P. And thats RADITZ xD


I don't recall there ever being any kind of mention of Frieza being a mutant or a prodigy. Just naturally very strong, like Cooler and Cold. But I mean, the canon's all over the place with that. Frieza mentions that his dad's not quite as strong as him, despite the Z-fighters saying Cold had just as high of a powerlevel as Frieza when they came to earth

And Cold was in his second form. Also, the earthlings in DBZ are not to scoff at. Yamcha, Tien and Krillin are still the top ten strongest warriors in the universe. (More or less, anyway. Top 15 might be more correct.) And all of them have stopped training pretty much after Cell. Well, we don't know how Strong Tien's gotten after Cell. But he was strong enough to hold his own against Trunks in the Bojack movie till Trunks transformed.

If Tien had been trained by the Supreme Kai and unlocked his potential by Elder Kai, he could probably have managed to get SSJ - SSJ2 tier strong, same goes for Tien and Yamcha. The earthlings aren't complete pushovers, they're just not naturally very strong.

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@Holy Soldier
Hence why I would desire to have some co GM's etc helping me run the rp for others, that way there are backups if anything happens to me for like a few days. As is real life sadly.

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This is true, however my default the majin race is still stronger than most due to their demon status. So sadly I cannot allow their race to be in this game, likely the same for all demons. Not to mention, how the heck would a demon end up joining his armies? XD

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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel Arch is right. Look on the wiki and you will see Frieza AND his family are all mutants with abserdly high power levels. Though the transformation thing is normal for their race it simply hide their power not boosts it unlike golden, that is why Frieza has so many transformations because his power is boosted from being a mutant. So being apart of Frieza's race is 100% acceptable as they would likely be that weak.
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@KitsuneI just may bring my Beastman Wolf-Type to this. This will be the third DBZ game I've played him in. Hopefully we can get past the first event lol.
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel Arch is right. Look on the wiki and you will see Frieza AND his family are all mutants with abserdly high power levels. Though the transformation thing is normal for their race it simply hide their power not boosts it unlike golden, that is why Frieza has so many transformations because his power is boosted from being a mutant. So being apart of Frieza's race is 100% acceptable as they would likely be that weak.


No place in canon mentions Frieza being a mutant, as far as I am aware. Ginyu mentions _them_ being mutants. I.E the Ginyu force, when Goku shows up. Also, no where is it stated that Frieza has more forms than Cooler or Cold. Cooler's a trained warrior, he can control himself in his perfect form. Fan theory is that Cold could not control himself in his final form (Like in DB multiverse) and he ends up busting planets on accident. They seem to be royalty, so it does make sense they're the stronget of their race, but I don't see any member of Frieza's race being lower than 1 million in Power level in their final form.

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It is mentioned by the creator himself when asked, and so yes it is cannon. The rest of his race is normal power levels, but does come with race based boosts such as surviving in space, tails etc.

"It was said by Akira Toriyama that Frieza was a "hybrid mutant" of his race (due to an accidental mutation a long time ago), and a hybrid refers to an entity that is born from two parents of separate species or variety."
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It is mentioned by the creator himself when asked, and so yes it is cannon. The rest of his race is normal power levels, but does come with race based boosts such as surviving in space, tails etc.

"It was said by Akira Toriyama that Frieza was a "hybrid mutant" of his race (due to an accidental mutation a long time ago), and a hybrid refers to an entity that is born from two parents of separate species or variety."


I dunno, man. It's not in the manga. Toriyama's not the highest on the list for people to trust with Dragon Ball Lore. He's forgotten more about it than we will ever know.
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Maybe but I like the explanation other than 'there are a entire planet like him' -w-
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*Has plans for a self-aware, mildly genre savvy human mechanic who knows he's in way over his head*

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Toryiama is basically a canon source when he says something since he DID make the bloody thing. Sure sometimes he does a move like saying the origin and name for 16, 17, and 18 out of nowhere, but its no less canon. Just remember you kinda need to roll with him when he does a retcon. xD Toei does more of the writing now anyway tbh.

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This is true, however my default the majin race is still stronger than most due to their demon status. So sadly I cannot allow their race to be in this game, likely the same for all demons. Not to mention, how the heck would a demon end up joining his armies? XD


Isn't Freeza's race darting between Frost Demon, Arcosian, and Freeza Clansman nowadays? I dunno, I just wanna use my adorable Majin xD. Guess I could make something extremely similar so that its original but does what I want them to do while being more beleivable that they're so weak?
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Just a question; are Saiyans or half-breeds allowed? If so, how will Saiyan transformations be moderated/gained?
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Maybe but I like the explanation other than 'there are a entire planet like him' -w-


I mean, he hasn't recruited any of them into his army. So either they're all dead, or they're in a different galaxy than he is, and Frieza and his family's fucked off. Because there's no way the Frieza race are not stronger than the common alien.
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Sadly likely no Saiyans's, wanna see peoples unique take other than the blonds of the world getting jelly -w-;

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Could be a syberman experiment. Growing new troops, so it would make sense why they are so weak right? So they can all gooy and stuffs

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What? Sort of like someone sent on a deep space mission and got snatched up by a passing force? XD
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Sadly likely no Saiyans's, wanna see peoples unique take other than the blonds of the world getting jelly -w-;

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Could be a syberman experiment. Growing new troops, so it would make sense why they are so weak right? So they can all gooy and stuffs

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What? Sort of like someone sent on a deep space mission and got snatched up by a passing force? XD


Maybe. Also maybe it was a planet that remembered the story of Majin Buu, because Freeza and his father knew about him, and wanted to try to replicate Buu and made a kind of race like that or something. I'll miss Cookie/Candy beam though, thats so much fun in XV2!
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