[OOC] Pathfinder - Rise of the Runelords

[Grey]

@Ermine Oh Erastil, Ciara has a stalker.

(btw URogue gets free weapon finesse so you have an extra feat)

[Ermine]

I knew I forgot something!
Or...not really forgot, but...forgot.

But what's your opinion on the Martial Training feat line for Cursed Razor? Do you think it'll hold everyone else back somehow? Or make it necessary to change too much?

Also, debating dropping the Underground Chemist thing. I mean, I still kinda want it for the ability to take (specific) alchemist discoveries (from a short list, but they're all good), but...it's really eating up my rogue talent slots >< (Bomber, Bomber's Discovery...not much, really, but it's still stuff I'm only taking because the archetype encourages it and not taking them would mean I was basically wasting the potential of the archetype at low levels). That, and it was a holdover from the campaign this character was originally made for, where she was stalking the alchemist. >.> I hadn't even finished her before scrapping her for a class exclusive to that campaign (a homebrew totemist conversion -purr-).

Unsure if I'll just drop it, take a different archetype, keep it, or just give in and play vivisectionist alchemist (because I like to pretend they're more adorable, and overall it's a better combat rogue), yet. For all we know, I'll have a fighter by the end of this.

[Ermine]

@Lucius Cypher 3rd Party content, in case I make a kitsune: Allowed?
Natural Finesse: Sophisticated kitsune hone graceful and precise movements at the expense of their skill with their natural attacks. The kitsune gains Weapon Finesse as a bonus feat at 1st level. This racial trait replaces natural weapons.

Also, new kitsune fighter sheet I'm working on and likely to use has notes on what I'd do if you allowed Martial Training.

Although the kitsune thing may change to human-leaning tiefling with racial heritage (kitsune) and the trait I want from kitsune that I'm basing this whole fighter concept on. >.>

[Lucius Cypher]

May I ask why so intent on using the Martial Training stuff? I get that you like it or something, but I do wonder why you seem so intent on bringing it in.

I don't mind that specific instance of third party materials for the Kistune. I always felt they could use a bit more customization options.

Do be aware however that a Race Trait is different from a racial trait. Just because you chose Teifling with Racial Heritage Kitsune doesn't mean I'm going to let you replace the Tiefling's spell-like ability for Natural Finesse. But I also don't know what your end game is, so just consider this a mention.

[Ermine]

@Lucius Cypher

On Traits and Racial Heritage

I thought I was a little more clear than I was. <.<
The race trait I want isn't THAT one. It's the kind of trait everyone gets two of. ^~^ Specifically, it's Nine-Tailed Scion. Because floof.
I wouldn't try to take Natural Finesse with it (as much as I like it).
Especially since I'm already working on changing it to human-leaning tiefling (most changes already done) with kitsune ancestry (no change except cosmetic and one choice of feat I already said, obviously, and totally within the rules ^~^).

Why I like Martial Training (and Path of War overall)

It's mainly that I like it, but it also gives me more options than "I move, I hit the thing." Combat's boring enough and already such a huge focus in D&D and Pathfinder. ANYTHING to make it more interesting is an improvement. (I'm one of those people who doesn't find combat fun at all -shrug- Adding a little bit of thought and strategy is much more fun, and there's next to nothing in the core rules that does so without resorting to being a spellcaster, and then you're SUPER OP compared to EVERY melee class that doesn't ALSO use magic).
So...I want it for variety mainly, but also because combat's boring and it gives me something to do. And since I'd be going Crimson Throne discipline with this particular concept, it's based around using a single weapon with a free offhand, a bit like a standard magus, albeit without quite as much power.
Then again, also resorting to using magic, but only flavorful stuff with mostly non-combat applications.

Question about tails

As a tiefling with kitsune ancestry, do I have to have the ugly tail (noting that I can't take prehensile tail) or can I have floofy tail? And if the former, does the Magical Tail feat give me an extra whiplike tail? Or a fluffy tail in addition to the ugly tail? (this is all cosmetic stuff, as a note. Literally no mechanical benefit. I just like cuteness. ^~^)

Something irrelevant that I found amusing

(on another note, could be a 66-96 year old little kid, with tiefling fighter with Pass For Human, Racial Heritage (Halfling) and Childlike trait. Not going to. Just found it amusing. In this case, how would Youthful Appearance affect the character? Suppose you don't have to answer since it doesn't matter)

Cosmetic stuff and related permission request

Edit: Technically, don't GET a tail if I do Pass for Human. So you can disregard THAT aspect of it. But the extra tails from the feat: are they floofy tails or whiplike tails? (I'd also only have 8 tails if my character still looks human. :/ I am disappoint. Unless you let me have one anyway? I mean, aasimar can haz explicitly-stated fox tail with variant appearance, and tieflings can have general "mammalian tails"...I can haz fox tail? Because fox? (But totally otherwise human in appearance? Going for something more like the traditional kitsune appearance, not the weird furry-fetish kitsune appearance). Going more for korean legends (with it as kumiho) with what I have, seducing people and eating hearts and livers and whatnot. Or at least seducing them. She's never gotten very far with seduction even though it's literally her job.
Even though she technically doesn't transform, it's just her being stuck in human form (for now), since kumiho in human form in the myths and such always keeping some fox-like feature.
Plus, it literally does nothing mechanically and it's really just me geeking out. ^//^

Character and some extra stuff

Here's what I have so far: Cathran Ajam. Plenty of information about her there, and the notes about my future advancement plans for her (tentatively, of course), both with and without Martial Training. Also, I noticed a set of optional rules that let people cast spells based on their BAB and Fort save, so long as they have an enchanted item that meets the criteria of the required feats, with fighters having the option to use ANY enchanted weapon to cast spells (as if with a wand). Just found it interesting. Probably won't use it. There's also the rules for adrenaline and using feats to do EXTRA stuff by spending it. Uses Constitution + BAB to determine adrenaline. That one's GM fiat, even as to how to get it. Not saying I want it, just saying it's an option later, maybe. My constitution's not great, but I have other people to take hits for me...

A little thing

If I'm the reason people aren't posting, I can leave. >< I don't want to ruin anything for anyone.
But if I'm not, then I'll say that I'm a lot more fun once RPing starts...unless you don't like comic relief because of lots of sucky rolls ^//^

[knighthawk]

@Lucius Cypher

I am cool with @Ermine taking these for a test-run. The only way to know if they are broken is to try them out.

Personally, as long as the mechanics do not change, I love any theatric shifts. I had a player want to be a catfolk before there were stats for them, I re-skinned an elf and moved on, we explained any 'elf' weakness or strength as a shared fey heritage. Had a player who wanted a magical extending sword like from bleach, re-flavored a javelin with a returning property and moved on with game.

I think with a magus-ish and a paladin, we still need a thief or a devoted caster...so, Bard?

[Ermine]

Oh, hey, if yours is a bard and still the artsy kind, Cathran could probably use some help on her epic poem. ^~^

[knighthawk]

@ErmineI'm thinking either halfling, dhampir or Catfolk for bard. I have a build already for a halfling daredevil built around the acrobatic skill. I'm not sure if catfolk and kitsune would blend well or fight like cars and dogs.

[Ermine]

-snicker- Possible. Not likely. Unless she senses "competition", so to speak.

[Lucius Cypher]

Hmm... I'll be honest with you folks, as much as I'd like too, I may have bitten off more then I could chew by accepting to GM this. Originally I came here as a request for a friend, but with work on the rise and still having some obligations of my own, I'm uncertain if I can give this RP the proper focus it deserves. I am neither making a declaration of leaving nor staying, only that you please must understand if I can't continue. I would suggest that you all continue looking for another GM in the event the worse comes.

[Ermine]

-pout- Asking around again, in case that happens. Hopefully it's not needed. ><

[knighthawk]

Everyone wants to be a player, not a DM. :P

[Ermine]

The person I'm asking is the same person I tried to ask before, only he answered this time. ^~^
He just doesn't know if he will or not, assuming the situation arises. He should have an answer by the time it happens, IF it happens.

[Ermine]

Split the Party Without Dividing Interest

[Ermine]

Would be nice to know if everyone else was still onboard with the RP. I mean, I know OTHER people celebrate a holiday soonish. Or it's possible no one is here but me, MAYBE knighthawk, and MAYBE Lucius Cypher (and a slightly bigger 'maybe' at that). (So I know if I need an answer or not on someone to run it if LC isn't able to)

[Ermine]

(I know people are still probably busy and/or away. I just really want this to be a thing, since I wanna play Pathfinder so bad)

I decided to go for this all-paizo character, a half-elf with human, elf, drow, and kitsune ancestry (racial heritage feat for kitsune, racial features and later half-drow paragon feat for drow) who follows a demon lord (but respects that not everyone will agree with her beliefs), who seems significantly more fun for me to play. Don't need to worry about any third party stuff. Not asking for any special permissions.

[Ermine]

And our cast, with their characters, all compiled in one place~ Let's just hope they're all still interested (and that our GM is able~)

@AsuraArken Ymir, Angelkin Paladin of Ragathiel, who took an oath of vengeance and is totally not a potential love interest for a certain half-drow girl who'll eventually have a bunch of fox tails.
@FubsyBranir Wildtoooth, Half-Orc Barbarian, of whom male horses are probably jealous ('cause he can carry people better. What were YOU thinking? -wink-).
@GreyCiara Demethorn, Chelish Human Hexenhammer Inquisitor who just wants to have a good time and used to be even MORE awesome somehow.
@ErmineCathran, Lady of Shadow, Half-Drow Fighter who's totally not going to be a sorcerer without being a sorcerer.
@knighthawkYou dun have anyone yet, but I'm sure they'll be interesting. Totally letting mine be bardish enough to write about this group as an epic poem. If you do go bard, ours can collab~

@Lucius CypherMy friend is having issues right now that would prevent him from running this. So I hope your issues have lessened to the point this RP won't be too problematic. I can even help out in ways that won't affect my character if that means this RP will still be a thing~