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"When it comes to a play-by-post style of game, however, it's harder; I have to sort of "guess", for lack of a better way of putting it, what it is you'll want to react to"


Therein lies the problem. You seem to be so hung up on what other people want, that you're both consciously and subconsciously stemming the natural flow of things. This is true for RPs as well as life. News flash! There's little to nothing you can do to make people react the way you want them to. Even if you're doing everything right, they may react in a way that's completely wrong regardless. The best one can do is to just be honest with how one feels about the situation one finds oneself in. No more can be expected of one. Anti-climactic advice I know but that's all there is to it.

They say life isn't easy. People say this because the difficulty of many scenarios can't be controlled very well. But guess what!? Life isn't meant to be played, it's meant to be lived.

TLDR: Be honest with what you want and screw what people think! If people give you shit, then I guarantee, that they don't have the courage to do the same. Embrace the chaos.

As for the mission length. I say let them play out for as long as it needs to. Until the objective is achieved of course. Getting lost and distracted is fine but a gentle nudge here and there towards the mission objective is warranted.

I'm glad we're all sharing @Archmage MC@Hylozoist. Perhaps maybe we can express these things more through our artistic contributions? That would make for something very interesting. I for one can't wait to go back to the game! n_n

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Post to get things moving a little will be up tomorrow lunchtime (Monday).
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Post is up a little earlier than expected, mostly because I've tried not to spend an hour or two editing it to within an inch of it's life.

Let's field some questions from the audience with this free time.

There's little to nothing you can do to make people react the way you want them to. Even if you're doing everything right, they may react in a way that's completely wrong regardless.


It's not that I'm wanting you to react in a particular way (because, goodness knows, you folks are plenty capable of surprising me), but it was more that I want to make sure that there are plenty of things for you to react to. So when I write, I put things in that would make me go "oh, I'd want to do something about that", and hope that other people would react to them too. There's not really a right or wrong way to react, because any reaction to any part of the post means things are happening and people are engaged, even if it's not a reaction I could've predicted.

Simply put - any reaction is good, and not reacting is bad. If some detail I included in a post serves to keep the story moving in any direction, that's good, even if I didn't plan for that detail to be much of anything. If a post garners no reaction, if there's nothing to it that makes people go "oh, I want to react to this!", then it means I've goofed up, because it's breaking the back-and-forth flow of the game that it's my responsibility to maintain, If That Makes Sense TM. Running off on some wild goose chase is preferable to standing around doing nothing!
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I have made a post. Please inform me if anything is wrong.
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@HylozoistI completely agree. I trust in your abilities.
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I have made a post. Please inform me if anything is wrong.


"Wait, what am I thinking? Ask the captain. Disregard that."


Somebody's going to earn their "Respecting The Chain Of Command" ISF badge. Note to self: draw badges. Anyway, nothing wrong!

@HylozoistI completely agree. I trust in your abilities.


Duly noted. And thanks, I really appreciate the messages over the last few days, it's helped put some stuff into perspective and generally helped me find the space to sort things in the old brain-meats into something a bit more manageable.
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Have a bonus Meanwhile! as well, in which I try and hammer into place in my mind exactly what Ofromia's street culture is like, opposed to the highfalutin' tower life.
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Welp posted. Not sure if I forgot something or not. lol
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Will be aiming for another post tomorrow, probably closer to midday GMT this time, as I'm going out for breakfast in the morning with a friend, which will likely be incredibly romantic until I start flicking baked beans at his face or we get into an argument about Disney films.

Also, speaking of posts and timing and the like - I am going to be extraordinarily busy being extraordinary on Friday, but will likely have an opportunity to sit down and get some posting done on Saturday. My usual singular pre-weekend post will therefore probably fall on the Saturday, which shall be renamed Friday 2: The Reckoning, so as to preserve my rules regarding posting here on the weekends.
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I'm going to make a post in a few hours.
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Sorry, @TwelveOf8, I didn't see that until I'd hit post (this post took rather more time than I thought it would to write, even without my usual "I must re-write this to within an inch of it's life"); I will give you a dedicated GM post of your very own once you've got your post done.
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Sorry, @TwelveOf8, I didn't see that until I'd hit post (this post took rather more time than I thought it would to write, even without my usual "I must re-write this to within an inch of it's life"); I will give you a dedicated GM post of your very own once you've got your post done.


I'm confused.
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I'm confused.


Basically, I started writing a post, kept on writing a post, and then continued on writing a post. Normally I'd do one last double-check to make sure nobody has posted something between "starting to write" and "getting the preview and post buttons mixed up" "hitting the post button", but this time, I forgot. If I had done what I'd normally do, I would have held off on that GM post dealing with Hip and Hacking Bees and a Salty Snake because I would've seen your post saying that you'll be posting in a few hours, and then instead I'd have posted a GM post that contained responses for both the Above Ground Team and the Below Ground Adventure.

Rest assured that this all made sense in my head at the point when I apologised, but I realise it probably didn't make much sense if you're not me, and now that I've gone to the trouble of writing this all out, I feel rather silly about the whole thing.

To continue my waffling about posting schedules, I am probably not going to be able to get a decent reply up this evening, as I'm using my rather unreliable tablet rather than my slightly-more-reliable desktop that's got my map of the tunnels drawn on it. I'll aim to get a reply up for you tomorrow morning (GMT).
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<Snipped quote by TwelveOf8>

Basically, I started writing a post, kept on writing a post, and then continued on writing a post. Normally I'd do one last double-check to make sure nobody has posted something between "starting to write" and "getting the preview and post buttons mixed up" "hitting the post button", but this time, I forgot. If I had done what I'd normally do, I would have held off on that GM post dealing with Hip and Hacking Bees and a Salty Snake because I would've seen your post saying that you'll be posting in a few hours, and then instead I'd have posted a GM post that contained responses for both the Above Ground Team and the Below Ground Adventure.

Rest assured that this all made sense in my head at the point when I apologised, but I realise it probably didn't make much sense if you're not me, and now that I've gone to the trouble of writing this all out, I feel rather silly about the whole thing.

To continue my waffling about posting schedules, I am probably not going to be able to get a decent reply up this evening, as I'm using my rather unreliable tablet rather than my slightly-more-reliable desktop that's got my map of the tunnels drawn on it. I'll aim to get a reply up for you tomorrow morning (GMT).


I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm glad we're playing again. n_n
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I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm glad we're playing again. n_n


I started off pretty certain about what I was talking about, but now I'm beginning to have doubts myself, and any further explanation I can try and offer is probably going to end up making things even less clear. Every sentence I'm adding here is making me more confused. I think what has happened is that I have confused you, then I have become confused about what has confused you, and we have entered a spiral of confusion from which there is little hope of escape. Rather than trying to climb out of this deepening pit of confusion I find myself in, I shall instead try to keep digging this confusion hole until I find myself confronted and comforted by the sunlight of clarity on the other side.

Actually, that's a silly idea. I'll just establish a new rule for myself when it comes to posting that simply says: "Don't try to go a day without caffeine because it'll make you weird."
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@Hylozoist I'm way too comfused to reply in a meaningful way to your confusion.
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@Hylozoist I'm way too comfused to reply in a meaningful way to your confusion.


I feel like we've exhausted the possibilities of what could be called "linear confusion", where each of us are confused in turn and there's a discernible line from the initial confusion to our current stage of confusion. Perhaps it's time to consider something more like fractal confusion, where we can get lost in infinite layers of recursive confusion, so that even a step back renders us just as confused as a step forwards.
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Ah. @TwelveOf8 I made a reference towards Fiddlesticks in my previous post. Did you miss it? It's the bit on whether or not Fiddlesticks has a communicator.
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@ValorOf that I am well aware. Incidentally, Fiddlesticks wouldn't know that he didn't have his communicator if he was oblivious to the fact that he was supposed to have one in the first place.
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@HylozoistSo basically Inception but instead of dreams it's layers upon layers of confusion. That would've made for a much better movie. I mean seriously, really think about it. I want this movie to get made.
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