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This is an explanation thread for things that are popular and you dont nessecarily understand why. This could be useful in finding something more to like about something that you otherwise wouldnt.

Try your best to explain as many as possible, but only post one thing per post.

Mine is Bioshock, can someone explain the appeal of it?

Dont get me wrong, I dont think its a bad game at all. But I see a lot of 9s and 10s for the games in the series and I cant really see why, I mean it just seems like a slightly better than average FPS with a somewhat original setting. Help me out?
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Mine is Bioshock, can someone explain the appeal of it?


It's the closest thing we had to a Thief sequel in 2007/2008.

The plot twist is pretty good, too, I guess. It's still one of the best plot twists I've ever seen to this day.

Now what is the appeal to Rick and Morty, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and these other cartoons to which full-grown adults have latched themselves? I get that cartoons aren't, in and of themselves, an inferior medium—I watch a few myself—but why these ones, which sacrifice so much comedy potential seemingly for the sake of quirkiness?

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It's the closest thing we had to a Thief sequel in 2007/2008.

The plot twist is pretty good, too, I guess. It's still one of the best plot twists I've ever seen to this day.

Now what is the appeal to Rick and Morty, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and these other cartoons to which full-grown adults have latched themselves? I get that cartoons aren't, in and of themselves, an inferior medium—I watch a few myself—but why these ones, which sacrifice so much comedy potential seemingly for the sake of quirkiness?

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I would be interested to know the answer to this myself. I can't stand these either.

And don't get me wrong, I'm partial to the cartoon medium myself and enjoy several cartoon/animated series, but some like Adventure Time (can't really comment on the other two as I haven't had much exposure to them or seen them to know much about them o.o) I honestly just find crude, distasteful and honestly somewhat offensive O.O
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@The Elvenqueen Yeah, I can watch some pretty stupid shit and enjoy it, but Jojo's Bizarre Adventure doesn't have to call attention to how fucking ludicrous it is.

Those shows use their "quirkiness" as a selling point meanwhile, which is irritating.
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It's the closest thing we had to a Thief sequel in 2007/2008.

The plot twist is pretty good, too, I guess. It's still one of the best plot twists I've ever seen to this day.

Now what is the appeal to Rick and Morty, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and these other cartoons to which full-grown adults have latched themselves? I get that cartoons aren't, in and of themselves, an inferior medium—I watch a few myself—but why these ones, which sacrifice so much comedy potential seemingly for the sake of quirkiness?

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I assume Steven Universe is popular because of its inclusion of LGBT+ in a kids show. I've also heard that its paced well and kind of short. So its fairly easy to 'jump into'.

Can someone explain the appeal of Kingdom Hearts? I personally dont like the music and the visuals are a little too chidlkike for me, but I honestley cant get over the ridiculously simplified combat system, I mean there is more variety in a Koei Warriors game.

Not too mention the wildly complex plot, which I dont see the appeal of either.
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Can someone explain the appeal of Kingdom Hearts? I personally dont like the music and the visuals are a little too chidlkike for me, but I honestley cant get over the ridiculously simplified combat system, I mean there is more variety in a Koei Warriors game.

Not too mention the wildly complex plot, which I dont see the appeal of either.


Never played kingdom hearts, so a huge guess on my part, but from what I understand it has tons of characters from Disney and other childhood shows/movies, so it's largely a nostalgia factor, it doesn't have to be an amazing game, when you get to save Halloween town with Jack Skellington, and go on adventures with Mickey and the rest of the gang. That and Square Enix fanboys.

Can someone explain the appeal of Vsauce? I've watched a few videos of his, and he occasionally talks about something interesting, but really he just talks in a funny way, (Almost shatner like) and repeats the same tidbit using different phrases, the actual information he presents can usually be summed up in a 2-3 minute video, but he stretches it all out.
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Can someone explain the appeal of Kingdom Hearts? I personally dont like the music and the visuals are a little too chidlkike for me, but I honestley cant get over the ridiculously simplified combat system, I mean there is more variety in a Koei Warriors game.

Not too mention the wildly complex plot, which I dont see the appeal of either.


The beauty of Kingdom Hearts is the ability of the game to be appealing to individuals of all ages while remaining a creative and intriguing story. Square enix is great at telling stories, but they tend to be more appropriate for older audiences and limits the game toward that group of players. The beauty is that Kingdom Heart finds a healthy medium between the two and can be enjoyed by anyone without feeling insulted for liking Disney characters or being considered into that group that is obsessed with Final Fantasy style games. Plus it isn't too hard of a game and just a fun play.

This might be traitorous to say... but please explain the obsession people have with memes. I spend a lot of time on Reddit so I am no stranger to then, but recently they have gone from a niche internet thing to a craze around the globe. I just don't understand...

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Can someone explain the appeal of Vsauce? I've watched a few videos of his, and he occasionally talks about something interesting, but really he just talks in a funny way, (Almost shatner like) and repeats the same tidbit using different phrases, the actual information he presents can usually be summed up in a 2-3 minute video, but he stretches it all out.


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Well, aside from that being literally the definition of what any given techbro enjoys watching, he explains things pretty simply. He might use more advanced terminology for most people, but he always explains what he means so anyone can understand. If you put ten year old me in front of him and had him record one of his videos, I would totally understand what he was talking about. Plus he just talks about things you wouldn't normally think about, and said things are usually of the "Holy fuck what" variety. It's just fun trivia about complex things massively dumbed down.

This might be traitorous to say... but please explain the obsession people have with memes. I spend a lot of time on Reddit so I am no stranger to then, but recently they have gone from a niche internet thing to a craze around the globe. I just don't understand...


The internet meme, essentially, is recognized in most people's minds as an in-joke. Their general specificity to a single, usually relatable subject makes people that understand the reference-no matter how absurd-think of themselves as a part of this specific group. When, in reality, said group isn't the like five people your brain treats it as but rather millions of people across the world. The more absurd memes (a good example I hope you know about was "long boy", which is also now used as a fruit fly to document the life stages of a meme because it fizzled out in about a week) don't have any specific subject, but are recognized as SIMILAR to other memes with subjects by the brain and thus people that are familiar with memes consider themselves in the in-group of people that like memes. So these memes, which if shown to some random guy who's been living under a rock or just someone above the age of 35, would have zero value in terms of humor. But to those who are familiar with memes and consider themselves a part of the meme in-group, they become in-jokes and thus funny.

One can also draw connections to absurdism in art after both world wars, which arose (of course) out of the fact that both wars caused massive devastation and were probably barely imaginable by the people at the time. Plenty of people lost their then-ubiquitous faith in God after living through them-my great grandfather never prayed again after he came back from WWI-and as a result the world seemed wrong to them. So absurdity became common in art, things like "sound poems" where people just spewed out gibberish in overly geometrical costumes and other strange works started to be created. In, I assume, both an attempt to make sense of the world or demonstrate its meaninglessness and absurdity

I would argue that the absurd, "ironic" memes have grown out of a similar feeling. Most of the millennial generation has been born into a world where they will die with debt, never retire, and have to pay for clean air (hell, already a thing in China). An economic crash has only made things worse for this entire generation, and so there's a fairly similar feeling of living in an absurd or hostile world. I mean, the South Korean president was indoctrinated into a millionaire cult that controlled all her actions behind the scenes, which was LITERALLY A CONSPIRACY THEORY before she recently admitted it was true. That's ridiculous, that's too stupid to be the plot of a movie, and it's reality. I personally enjoy absurd memes with no meaning because I see the world as ridiculous. I'm going to suffocate to death after missing my uncontaminated air subscription, leaving behind thousands in debt for children I won't have because I have failed to ever have a romantic relationship despite being well past the "normal age" to do so. If I believed the world had meaning, I would have killed myself a long time ago.

Coincidentally, this is also why a lot of people don't get absurd memes. They aren't in that situation. They have enough wealth to not need to worry about anything, or they know they'll be dead well before their world gets a chance to become a polluted hell. Maybe they just believe everything is fine, or maybe they have a vibrant social life connected with upper-middle class wealth so they don't even think about what's coming for them or the people below them. This helps people figure out who "gets" memes and who doesn't, and by extension what types they get. I have a friend who's the daughter of a rich businessman, and she laughs at things like the old John Cena memes (which are a third type: ones that create references on their own through sheer repetition when they were absurd, thus gaining a following in people that don't get absurd memes. A process often called "noramlization" or "normiefication") and Shia's "JUST DO IT" speech. But she wouldn't ever get, say, a ghetto meme (which are fucking comedy gold if you ask me), or literally anything from Special Meme Fresh or the countless other even more ironic Facebook meme pages. I, on the other hand, started to learn about politics the same time both my parents got fired in 2008. So my worldview is basically "Everything is shit and the universe is meaningless", and with that I ended up starting to "get" absurdist memes. Had the Recession not happened, I'd probably still be posting the old advice animal memes or laughing at rage comics.

So basically what I'm saying is that whether or not you enjoy memes largely depends on your societal status and material conditions. If you want to learn more, google "The Philosopher's Meme". A good example of what I mean about the absurdism arising from a view of the universe as meaningless due to one's environment is Non-Existent Existentialist Memes.
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Well, aside from that being literally the definition of what any given techbro enjoys watching, he explains things pretty simply. He might use more advanced terminology for most people, but he always explains what he means so anyone can understand. If you put ten year old me in front of him and had him record one of his videos, I would totally understand what he was talking about. Plus he just talks about things you wouldn't normally think about, and said things are usually of the "Holy fuck what" variety. It's just fun trivia about complex things massively dumbed down.

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The internet meme, essentially, is recognized in most people's minds as an in-joke. Their general specificity to a single, usually relatable subject makes people that understand the reference-no matter how absurd-think of themselves as a part of this specific group. When, in reality, said group isn't the like five people your brain treats it as but rather millions of people across the world. The more absurd memes (a good example I hope you know about was "long boy", which is also now used as a fruit fly to document the life stages of a meme because it fizzled out in about a week) don't have any specific subject, but are recognized as SIMILAR to other memes with subjects by the brain and thus people that are familiar with memes consider themselves in the in-group of people that like memes. So these memes, which if shown to some random guy who's been living under a rock or just someone above the age of 35, would have zero value in terms of humor. But to those who are familiar with memes and consider themselves a part of the meme in-group, they become in-jokes and thus funny.

One can also draw connections to absurdism in art after both world wars, which arose (of course) out of the fact that both wars caused massive devastation and were probably barely imaginable by the people at the time. Plenty of people lost their then-ubiquitous faith in God after living through them-my great grandfather never prayed again after he came back from WWI-and as a result the world seemed wrong to them. So absurdity became common in art, things like "sound poems" where people just spewed out gibberish in overly geometrical costumes and other strange works started to be created. In, I assume, both an attempt to make sense of the world or demonstrate its meaninglessness and absurdity

I would argue that the absurd, "ironic" memes have grown out of a similar feeling. Most of the millennial generation has been born into a world where they will die with debt, never retire, and have to pay for clean air (hell, already a thing in China). An economic crash has only made things worse for this entire generation, and so there's a fairly similar feeling of living in an absurd or hostile world. I mean, the South Korean president was indoctrinated into a millionaire cult that controlled all her actions behind the scenes, which was LITERALLY A CONSPIRACY THEORY before she recently admitted it was true. That's ridiculous, that's too stupid to be the plot of a movie, and it's reality. I personally enjoy absurd memes with no meaning because I see the world as ridiculous. I'm going to suffocate to death after missing my uncontaminated air subscription, leaving behind thousands in debt for children I won't have because I have failed to ever have a romantic relationship despite being well past the "normal age" to do so. If I believed the world had meaning, I would have killed myself a long time ago.

Coincidentally, this is also why a lot of people don't get absurd memes. They aren't in that situation. They have enough wealth to not need to worry about anything, or they know they'll be dead well before their world gets a chance to become a polluted hell. Maybe they just believe everything is fine, or maybe they have a vibrant social life connected with upper-middle class wealth so they don't even think about what's coming for them or the people below them. This helps people figure out who "gets" memes and who doesn't, and by extension what types they get. I have a friend who's the daughter of a rich businessman, and she laughs at things like the old John Cena memes (which are a third type: ones that create references on their own through sheer repetition when they were absurd, thus gaining a following in people that don't get absurd memes. A process often called "noramlization" or "normiefication") and Shia's "JUST DO IT" speech. But she wouldn't ever get, say, a ghetto meme (which are fucking comedy gold if you ask me), or literally anything from Special Meme Fresh or the countless other even more ironic Facebook meme pages. I, on the other hand, started to learn about politics the same time both my parents got fired in 2008. So my worldview is basically "Everything is shit and the universe is meaningless", and with that I ended up starting to "get" absurdist memes. Had the Recession not happened, I'd probably still be posting the old advice animal memes or laughing at rage comics.

So basically what I'm saying is that whether or not you enjoy memes largely depends on your societal status and material conditions. If you want to learn more, google "The Philosopher's Meme".


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memes are serious business ok
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Whats the appeal of Digimon? Even as far as its own genre and target audience I cant think of one thing appealing about digimon that another anime doesnt do a whole lot better.
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Whats the appeal of Digimon? Even as far as its own genre and target audience I cant think of one thing appealing about digimon that another anime doesnt do a whole lot better.


Because Pokemon is too mainstream.

Can someone explain to me why exercise addicts are a thing? I get that exercise is healthy and you should do it, but when you spend like 8 hours a day at a gym and do not stop talking about how many babies you bench/how long you run in the Alps/what kind of shady ass shit you put into a protein shake, how do you do that? Just fucking how?
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Because Pokemon is too mainstream.

Can someone explain to me why exercise addicts are a thing? I get that exercise is healthy and you should do it, but when you spend like 8 hours a day at a gym and do not stop talking about how many babies you bench/how long you run in the Alps/what kind of shady ass shit you put into a protein shake, how do you do that? Just fucking how?


The chemicals released from exercise can be very addictive, especially once your exercise 'routine' becomes part of your lifestyle. Then said lifestyle will put you in quite intense and value based social circles which often creates a 'bragging' culture which might make you feel the need to post every physical achievement you have on social media. Also It should be mentioned that living an intense 'gym' life will force you to give up a lot of regular vices, such as tasty food, alcohol, a lot of free time on the internet, so maybe bragging is all you really have left.

I wonder about the appeal of this:



again, its not a bad game but what does it really have over any other functional 3D platformer?
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I wonder about the appeal of this:

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again, its not a bad game but what does it really have over any other functional 3D platformer?


Ico, like a lot of those "hyped" early PS2 games, were actually very good for their time. The puzzles, combat, and even the graphics were state of the art and better than most other offerings of its era. The soundtrack is one features that still really holds up. Beyond that, the game leaves most of the story up for interpretation. That always opens something up for artsy fartsy people to latch onto. There's also something strangely appealing about taking the roll of a child and guiding around a princess. And we can't forget good ol' nostalgia.

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I do not not understand the appeal of mobas. Yes, the games are fun, but the people who play them are always toxic and never really seem to enjoy themselves unless they're winning. We all like to win, but why play a game where victory rides on the back of your "crappy team?" Some of these communities have millions of active players in their community.
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Ohhh, a thread I likey.

Can someone explain to me the appeal of loud screaming Let's Players who offer nothing more than a tired brand of humor, and screaming?
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Ohhh, a thread I likey.

Can someone explain to me the appeal of loud screaming Let's Players who offer nothing more than a tired brand of humor, and screaming?
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Square enix is great at telling stories,


It's scary that some people sincerely believe this.
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Can someone explain to me the appeal of loud screaming Let's Players who offer nothing more than a tired brand of humor, and screaming?


There isn't an explanation. It's a mystery of the universe.
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It's scary that some people sincerely believe this.


It isn't made money selling a million Final Fantasy games, including two pretty decent MMOs for no reason. Irregardless of personal bias. :P
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popularity ≠ quality

"Irregardless" also ain't a word.
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