Yu-Gi-Oh! Guardians (Title Pending)

[GarlandChaos]

@Killfang96

Yep. You can use generic monsters that don't directly support a different archetype.

@Ryougu

Oh, you mean as a form of character development? Go nuts then, dood.

@Ammokkx

Welcome aboard dood. :3

I'll probably go for RNG, aka what you're doing in your RP, iirc. @Raddum gave some solid reasons, iirc.

It depends on the card. If the VG card is more balanced/conveniently simplified(which they usually are), I'll go for the VG card.

If the anime version is more balanced/simplified and/or has its own archetype, the anime version will be picked.

So for example, Scab Scar-Knight's anime version will be used.

Also, looks like someone's intent on running Infernities.

[Ryougu]

@GarlandDaHero
Well that's cool then, Samurai, here I come!

Also, probably mixed with archfiend cavalry for quick resummons...Terror

[Ammokkx]

Also, looks like someone's intent on running Infernities.

@GarlandDaHero

Well I've been found out pretty quickly. I feel like the card's 500 LP requirement makes it balanced, tho.

@Killfang96

Yep. You can use generic monsters that don't directly support a different archetype.

@Ryougu
I'll probably go for RNG, aka what you're doing in your RP, iirc. @Raddum gave some solid reasons, iirc.

@GarlandDaHero

Might I suggest leaving players the option to script their duels if both parties agree to it? I do the same thing in my RP: If both players agree to script their duel, I see no harm in allowing them. I prefer to RNG too, but it's nice to have the option.

[Killfang96]

@GarlandDaHero
Okay. There were a few cards I wanted to add for specific situations as well as a few XYZ to supplement the deck.

[GarlandChaos]

Might I suggest leaving players the option to script their duels if both parties agree to it? I do the same thing in my RP: If both players agree to script their duel, I see no harm in allowing them. I prefer to RNG too, but it's nice to have the option.

@Ammokkx

That's actually a really damn good idea. I'll use that, thanks. :3

@Killfang96

Could you give some examples, please? If you'd prefer to send it in a PM, that'd be fine.

[Killfang96]

@GarlandDaHero
Sent I don't want to reveal my surprises to everyone now do I?

[GarlandChaos]

@Killfang96

Exactly why I asked.

[Ryougu]

@GarlandDaHero
Is this acceptable as a guardian?

Guardian Monster:

SUMMONING CONDITION
When your LP is 1000 or less, tribute monsters until you have 1 left; guardian summon this card.

[Killfang96]

@Ryougu
That one looks pretty useful

[Ryougu]

@Killfang96
I hope it'll be, it might ocassionally cost me a lot.

[Killfang96]

@Ryougu
Just be careful dueling me half my cards give extra deck monsters a giant pain in the rear. :P

[Ryougu]

@GarlandDaHero
By the way, if the extra deck monsters on the field are limited...how are we supposed to use cards that require 2 extra deck monsters as materials?

[Killfang96]

@Ryougu@GarlandDaHero
I was thinking the same thing. So many decks are built around the extra deck limiting to just one might leave most people in a bad position until link monsters are implemented

[AdmrlStalfos19]

So... I was thinking of using Spirit of the Pharaoh as my character's Guardian but, after beginning to develop the archtype I'm going to have her use, I decided that card was too integral to the Deck itself, so I made a new one.

My Guardian (as it stands right now)

Effect in Full (just in case you need it)

Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Guardian Summoned, and cannot be Summoned by other ways. You can Guardian Summon this card by banishing 1 Level 6 LIGHT Zombie-type monster from your Graveyard, in addition to Zombie-type Normal Monsters in your Graveyard whose total Levels equal exactly 6, while you have 2000 LP or less. You cannot Summon or Set other monsters during the turn you Guardian Summon this card. This card cannot leave the field, except by being destroyed by battle. Once per turn, when a monster would be Normal or Special Summoned, OR a Spell/Trap Card is activated, while you control this face-up card: You can banish 1 Level 2 Zombie-type Normal Monster from your Graveyard; negate the Summon or activation, and if you do, destroy that card. Cards or effects cannot be activated in response to the activation of this effect.

Effect is by no means final, and I'm also willing to cut down on the ATK and DEF if 5k is too much to try and run over considering what it can do. Though unless I would've been allowed to use specific monsters this whole time, the Summoning condition will more than likely stick.

Oh, and in case you're wondering how I managed to get the blue background, I actually used the Magic Set Editor program to make this card, and used the Obelisk background for it. It's a cool way to make YGO cards once you set it up with the ability to make Xyz's and Pendulums, and download the right fonts to make the cards themselves look more authentic.

[Killfang96]

@AdmrlStalfos19
That effect seems kinda too strong.
Especially considering its Atk but that's my opinion.

[GarlandChaos]

@GarlandDaHero
Is this acceptable as a guardian?

Guardian Monster:

SUMMONING CONDITION
When your LP is 1000 or less, tribute monsters until you have 1 left; guardian summon this card.

@Ryougu

Looks okay to me.

Also, to answer your question, Extra Deck monsters go to the Extra Monster Zone if they're summoned through their respective summoning method or a card that treats a Special Summon as an Extra Deck summon. In all other cases, they go to the Main Monster Zone.

@Ryougu
Just be careful dueling me half my cards give extra deck monsters a giant pain in the rear. :P

@Killfang96

Keep in mind that I WILL be using the banlist, so you can't use stuff like Djinn Releaser of Rituals unless they're not on the list.

@AdmrlStalfos19

Yeah that looks WAY too strong. I suggest changing the anti-leave-the-field effect to just protecting it from being targeted and/or destroyed by card effects, as well as reducing the ATK to 3500 or so and the DEF to 0, just for the Zombie-Type flavor.

[Killfang96]

@GarlandDaHero
Not using Djinn releaser of rituals. With how much Nekroz search anyway it's kinda unnecessary

[AdmrlStalfos19]

@GarlandDaHero
I dunno about putting Khufu's DEF to 0. While it's true that it fits the Zombie flavor better, it'd be way too rewarding for the opponent once they manage to force it into Defense Position (difficulty aside ofc; this is a walking Solemn Judgment we're talking about after all). This is especially true if they have a Piercer handy. That said, I might put Khufu's DEF at 2500. It's not that hard to run over from a competitive standpoint these days, but it'll still require a strong monster on the field regardless.

As for the suggested ATK drop, could I potentially meet you half-way, and put Khufu's ATK either at 4k or somewhere near it? I'd been meaning to weaken the Solemn Judgment effect anyway, which I can easily do as a potential condition, but wasn't sure how to go about it without ruining the whole feel of it. I have MSE open rn, so I can make edits as I need to.

[Ryougu]

@AdmrlStalfos19
You realize Solemn Judgement is banned for a reason? And seriously, even with if its ATK were to be lowered to 3500, it'd still be way powerful, because its effect basically means that when you play it after a dark hole/raigeki/other board wipe your opponent can never properly summon anything strong enough to beat it and you practically win. : /

A guardian was (from what I understood) supposed to be a comeback, not a win-condition.

Personally I'd be fine with just high attack and not being able to be destroyed/targeted by card effects, but really, that solemn judgement is way OP.

[Todd Howard]

that solemn judgement is way OP.

@Ryougu

This sums up my opinion.