[OOC] Star Wars The Victory Of Jedi {Always accepting}

[Burning Kitty]

Firstly, at no point did I ask Princess to violate any rule of Roleplaying. You control your character.

@mattmanganon

Then I misread your post, I apologize.

Also, you aren't a legally recognized member of the Mandalorian Government. You are the Star Wars equivalent of Islamic State. You are a group of extremists that usurped the legally recognized government and overthrew it, then declared yourself a state.

@mattmanganon

You are wrong. Death Watch during the Clone Wars is not the recognized leadership of Mandalore. My character killed the leader of Death Watch. At best using your ISIS example is ISIS leader killed the leader of Al Queda.

<Numerous mentions of Jedi Temple>

@Princess of God

Naast is at the Senate building. No Jedi Guards there, just clone guards.

[mattmanganon]

@Burning Kitty I was talking about in the eyes of the Republic. They don't care about the nitty-gritty of it. Point is, the legally recognised government was overthrown and now that the Death-Watch's hierarchy has fallen apart, you are just another, equally undesirable group that has said "We are the new leaders!" The Republic won't recognise anyone's leadership, other than the legal heirs to the Mandalorian nobility. So, unless you could prove that you were a member of the Kryze family, you will never be recognized, by the Republic, as anything other than "Just another extremist with delusions of grandeur. To be captured or eliminated before they can rally enough support to become an actual threat."

I'm sorry if this seems that i'm putting your character down. I'm not. It's a perfectly valid character to make and once again, i'm all for this. All I am trying to say is that, at this point, your character is just an ant before the size 12 boot that is The Republic. If you want to fight the boot, i'm not gonna stop you, i'm just saying that it doesn't bode well for your characters survivability. Then again, i'm used to playing Edge of the Empire, where any and every action will get you on somebodies hit-list :)

Also, I just noticed that your character has the Darksaber. How did he get it away from Maul?

[Burning Kitty]

Again you are wrong about the facts.

The bill that would send Republic goons to Mandalore was during the the time where Satine Kryze is still alive. Ere go Satine is still alive and leading Mandalore.

If Satine was dead then that would mean Maul was the leader of Death Watch and Mandalore. Since my character has outright stated that he killed the leader of Death Watch then that would mean he already has control of Mandalore.

As for the Darksaber, in the cartoon Maul killed Pre Vizsla and took the Darksaber. In the RPG Naast killed Pre Vizsla and took the Darksaber instead.

Serirously use this before making more outright wrong statements.

[BladeSS4]

Sweet, I'll move my cs over to the character tab. Just gotta figure out where how to begin my first post ic any suggestions on where to start off let me know. For now I'm going to read each post until I can find the right place to have my character begin at.

[mattmanganon]

@Burning Kitty Alright, I misunderstood. Princess said that we are very close to the end of the Clone Wars, I thought we were like a month or 2 before Episode 3.

Now this makes even less sense. If the Death-Watch have been dealt with, then Satine isn't in power. She was stripped of her power after Death Watch took over and was killed before she managed to get back in power. In Canon, after Maul killed Visla, he appointed Almec to power. If Naast killed Visla and Naast hates Satine with a passion, why would he put her back in power? Surely, he'd either set himself up as the Prime Minister, or set up one that he can puppet with ease. Satine is not such a person.

The problem is that none of this was in your character sheet. Just "Naast acquired the Darksaber from the Death-Watch."

Let's sort this out and stop the arguing. Put up a basic history of your character. Because a lot of the time, you are saying "You are wrong, because of this piece of my character's history which you have no way of knowing."

And never question my knowledge of Star Wars. I'll have you know that my sadness knows no bounds when it comes to Star Wars.

[TheUnknowable]

@mattmanganonisn't Mandalore a leadership position earned through respect, not granted to the strongest, or whoever kills the old one? Of course, the only two Mandalores I know of are Bona Fett and Canderous Ordo, but that's what I gathered from their rise to the position.

[mattmanganon]

@TheUnknowable No, Mandalore is appointed by challenging the current Mandate to an honourable duel for the position and defeating him. So Naast would have become Mandalore, we're nobody to challenge his right to the position.

You can also become Mandated by finding the legendary lost helmet of the first Mandalore.

[TheUnknowable]

@mattmanganonWhere would I find a reference to that? I know in the books, they had to convince Fett to accept the position, and in KOTOR 2 i thought Canderous just named himself that after the Mandalorians were nearly wiped out, then convinced people to accept him by trying to rebuild his people.

[Burning Kitty]

@mattmanganon

• Satine is alive and the current ruler of Mandalore.
• Leader of Death Watch is dead, Naast killed him.
• Maul has not reached Mandalore and never was the leader of Death Watch. May or may not happen now.
• Naast's Mandalorians are fighting against what is left of Death Watch.

The problem is that none of this was in your character sheet.

The character sheet didn't have a history section or whatever you want to call it. So why would it be there?

@TheUnknowable In between KOTOR & KOTOR2, Canderous acquired Mandalore's Mask. Which as Matt said, can make you Mandalore.

The Darksaber also can be used to unite all the clans. Which is why Sabine worked so hard for it in Rebels.

[mattmanganon]

@Burning Kitty Well, that's all fine and good, and since you editted your previous post, we're all good... Well, he kinda looks silly, since he just put the guard on planetary alert, put himself on several wanted posters as, in the space of a minute, managed to commit 7 crimes, 2 of which were capital offenses, all for the sake of making a threat which he has to know will go ignored. He does have the Intricity and pin-point accuracy of a well played game of chess. But, this won't be the first time i've seen people like that succeed in the insanely impossible (I managed to do so, in a D&D session last week after picking a fight with a character I thought I stood no chance against, but 4 nat-20's later, was doing the fandango in his entrails.) I'm just saying that, when you made a pretty big change and don't tell anyone, don't get mad at them for not knowing. :) Just making sure, you did run this by @Princess of God first, right?

[Burning Kitty]

As for them ignoring his warning, that is their prerogative. He was honored bound to warn them. He knows they won't listen they are moronic beauracrats, who think they know better than everyone else.

The main reason for passing the occupation bill was Death Watch, his people and he are dealing with Death Watch. Satine doesn't want the Republic invading, she doesn't have the balls to lead an army to fight back the invaders, she will be forced to abandon her ways but lack the experience or even the simplest knowledge of how to lead a war. She will seek out advisers.

The Republic Senate if they pass it are handing Mandalore over to him on a bloody (as in the bodily fluid) silver plate.

[Princess of God]

@BladeSS4

Enter where Yoda and the group is at the jedi temple

[TheUnknowable]

I haven't forgotten about this, I just can't think of what to post.

[mattmanganon]

@TheUnknowable Well, you could post her contemplating Inuel's demands. Or could have her tell the big bird-reptile to fuck off :)

[BladeSS4]

Finally was able to post. I think I got the situation right. Sorry if my post wasn't very good had trouble thinking of a way of getting my first post into this. Wasn't sure how to introduce my character but that first ic post is that I came up with. I hope it is alright.

[Princess of God]

@BladeSS4

Its fine no worries XD

[mattmanganon]

@Princess of God Waiting on you.

[Princess of God]

@mattmanganon

I know sorry busy with studyinh for finals

[TheUnknowable]

Keep forgetting to post. I'll try to get something up tomorrow.

[mattmanganon]

@TheUnknowable@Princess of God@Burning Kitty

*Twiddles thumbs*