Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Ace of Hearts]

@Ace of Hearts and you, can please fucking stop with the flaming? Everyone in here, even the right wingers like mdk and I would HOPE sleeping silence, are against this racist stuff, but when you start calling people names all it does is validate them by giving them a victimhood excuse, now they can render all criticism null and void because you are attacking them personally instead of taking apart the argument.

@Dynamo Frokane

Babby Leftist's First Fight

sorry if I don't respect racists, pal, I don't really see the need to, nor do they deserve it. You and the mods might roll out the red carpet for regressive, hateful thinking, to allow it in order to 'respect all opinions' but I won't.

also right winger is synonymous with racist. also their sense of victimhood is false; being made fun of on the internet isn't the same thing as having the governments of the west systematically brutalizing non-white people for contrived, bullshit reasons.

Edit: and i'm pretty sure I do take part of the argument, I just don't use pseudo-intellectualism to color my words. I call racists like I see em; racists.

[Hank]

Jesus Christ.

Shut the fuck up.

@Ace of Hearts, get out of this thread. Official warning. You talk like that to anyone on this site again and you're gone. Everyone else, move on to a different subject of conversation. This racial stuff is clearly too edgy to be discussed here.

EDIT: This goes for @Andreyich too, somewhat. Kudos for retracting the worst parts of your posts but don't do that again.

[Andreyich]

@Hank
sorry lad didn't see your post, can you delete mine then

[Hank]

@Hank
sorry lad didn't see your post, can you delete mine then

@Andreyich

No problem. Done.

[Dolerman]

@Dynamo Frokane No, that counter is irrelevant. Because almost all my experience and social life revolves around the ghetto or "black culture". So it is relevant. When even my white friends, have black family members (and not including the fact my father born in South America and one of his longest friend is Hispanic.) And "racism" comes from hating the ignorance spewed and believing everyone should be treated by the content of their character. And when the sheltered get offended for their sake, cry about things they couldn't give two licks about, and while never stepping foot in a ghetto. Yes, my word means much more than theirs.

Simple as that. I don't have a single shred of white guilt and it drives me nuts when young sheltered children, talk like they know anything about the world, like this new wave of progressive politics attempting to make segregation a thing again. When you've been mugged about a dozen times and assaulted in the streets and stalked by a crazy homeless person, ya know at least get you started. You can tell me that my first hand experience isn't relevant to these paper thin discussions about the 'ebils of racism.' (spelled wrong on purpose.)

I've also never brought up the "ethno-state" so without even needing to think about it, you could probably rub two nickels together and figure I don't particularly fight for that cause.

Also @ing random people to start beefs, is another reason the other thread got locked and you were the one to do it. So I politely suggest you do what he requested...

@SleepingSilence

NO it isnt relevant, yo can be racist who lives around black people, and a non racist who lives around black people. You can be a racist who lives around white people and a non racist who lives around white people. I dont care where you grew up, it doesn't say anything about the way you think.

Also using 'ghetto' and black culture interchangeably is pretty worrying, you do realise that there are black people live outside of the hood right? You also bringing up black friends and hispanic friends means nothing (I'm not racist I've got non white friends!).

I'm half black and none of the black people in my family live anywhere near a bloody 'ghetto' and I promise they have friends of all colours who are indeed racist, regardless who they go out and have pizza with.

And I wasn't @ing for beef, dont make assumptions if you dont know what I'm thinking.

EDIT: I dont think you are racist, and I never did, but this psuedo virtue signalling of "I grew up in a blacker area then you middle class pussies" is bloody annoying.

[Dolerman]

@Dinh AaronMk so moving away from ethno eugenics, I have another meme!

[Andreyich]

@Dynamo Frokane
Is pretty true

[SleepingSilence]

@Dynamo Frokane Racism comes from ignorance. You do not become friends and spend time and purposefully live around the culture, (note was not born there, I lived there through my own actions. I choose to stay at the predominantly black school because it was going better for me than my other options.) and not learn about the culture in the process. I'm friends with people all over the internet, different cultures, religions and political spectrum's. People that act like this doesn't matter, I guarantee do not have those friends.

I'm not saying racism can't exist in the Ghetto, it does. Just not the racism stated by the progressives from their mansions.

Also using 'ghetto' and black culture interchangeably is pretty worrying, you do realise that there are black people live outside of the hood right?

@Dynamo Frokane the ghetto or "black culture".

@SleepingSilence

Dude, I know your doing it on purpose. But I'll clarify again in case your misinterpreting "CONTEXT MATTERS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD" if something is put in "quotations" its usually implied that there's something "supposed" about them....

google.com/search?q=putting+quotation…

"Scare quotes, shudder quotes, or sneer quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to signal that a term is being used in a non-standard, ironic, or otherwise special sense."

I am aware of that, thanks...which is why I used the quotes...paying attention to the little details (or at all.) is nice.

So when you actually understand where I'm coming from and don't spend every second, trying to spin things I say. I'll bother continuing this conversation. So I'm sorry if that completely valid argument "annoys" you because it means I can't be labelled something I already know I'm not. (or even imply it. Like you did try to.) But I'll take all of this online wisdom with a massive grain of salt.

And if you're family is friends with racists. (which just sounds pretty ridiculous.) I don't know if that says anything but the content of their own character...but I digress.

[Dolerman]

@SleepingSilence 'Implied' my ass.

You do realise if I thought you were a racist, I would just call you one right?

I would think by now, you'd see that the one thing I do not have (to my own detriment) is a filter, I dont imply anything if I can just outright say it. If you think I secretly think youre a racist then you are paranoid, dont know what else to tell ya.

And I'm going to ignore the strawman of progressives in their mansions because I doubt anyone in this thread lives in a mansion, or is even calling you a racist you are being defensive against people who arent even here.

This black ghetto thing is getting so stupid I'm actually getting midly offended even discussing it, bringing up being mugged by crazy homeless people like that has anything to do with race is just confusing. But I'm pretty sure you are arguing with me just to save face now. So I'll get back to my edgy memes if its all the same to you.

Also I fully realise that you dont agree with ethno nationalism or racial science, I was simply stating that it was a bit of a shame to not see you visibly argue against it, like you do with damn near everything else you dont agree with on here....STILL DONT THINK YOURE A RACIST BTW! So please for the love of god just relax.

[Andreyich]

I mean, racism is just prejudice, it's not hate and let's face it prejudice is natural for nearly every thing, be it race, gender, appearance, weight, etc. etc. etc.

Racism =/= hate

[SleepingSilence]

@Dynamo Frokane Not dealing with you, because it's not remotely worth it...

[Dolerman]

@Dynamo Frokane Not dealing with you, because it's not remotely worth it...

@SleepingSilence

Glad we are friends again *rolls eyes*

[SleepingSilence]

@Dynamo Frokane Well accusing someone of being paranoid, kind of drops any possible respect one can have. If you want to pretend you talk with any desire to be respectful, you could be a spit more mindful of your words. /Done

[Dolerman]

I mean, racism is just prejudice, it's not hate and let's face it prejudice is natural for nearly every thing, be it race, gender, appearance, weight, etc. etc. etc.

Racism =/= hate

@Andreyich

I agree with you that not all racism is hateful. I think some people have this extremely low standard of racism that racists are all running around in white hoods with lynch rope or marching up and down the street in SS uniforms. The average racist probably isnt even an angry dude, he just might not want to live around asians for whatever reason. Still makes him a racist, but not a hateful person.

And 'natural' is very debatable, you can have a prejudgement but it depends where you go with that judgement that actually makes your actions or your attitudes racist.

You can see a black dude and think 'hmm he might be good at basketball' but then stop and think hey WHY do I think that, is it because of his skin colour or is it because this guy happens to be tall and healthy looking?

Racism is villified because it attributes things to people based on something that they cant control, which is hurtful and doesn't really take into account the individuals free will or personal opinions. Grouping that guy down the street who you say hi to in the morning as 'one of the brown people' while attributing to how all brown people supposedly behave or think takes away that persons individuality and ultimately de-humanises them. Its just not a good way to interact with your fellow man.

[Dolerman]

@Dynamo Frokane Well accusing someone of being paranoid, kind of drops any possible respect one can have. If you want to pretend you talk with any desire to be respectful, you could be a spit more mindful of your words. /Done

@SleepingSilence

Didnt actually call you paranoid, just said if you think I secretly think something that I dont, then thats paranoia, but youve made your mind up so whatev

/Done

[Hank]

I distinctly recall saying something about moving on to a different subject of conversation.

[Dolerman]

@Hank Sorry, I was just trying to tie it up now that everyone has pretty much calmed down, but I did post the soviet meme in an attempt to get people to switch topics.

[Dolerman]

@Andreyich Tell me about the cold war, and why you love capitalism (like you should).