Precipice of War: The Reboot Bugaloo

[Vilageidiotx]

@KeyguypersonI'd be more than willing to split Japan either literally as its having a civil war or play as two different factions within Japan.

@ClocktowerEchos

Boshin War 2: The Samurai Strike Back

[Mao Mao]

Since you are the United States, @Byrd Man, I was wondering if you are up to talking about the relationship between Central America and your nation (if I decide to play as them)?

EDIT: By the way, are you guys planning on doing a discord channel or something like that?

[Vilageidiotx]

EDIT: By the way, are you guys planning on doing a discord channel or something like that?

@The Spectre

We have one we are using for backstage planning right now that'll become public when the RP goes up.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I want posts before I hand out Discord information. Since as I told Vilage while waiting for my post-class lunch: I don't want people hanging out on Discord and blowing all their imagination on organizing their position in relation to others, so when it comes time for launch all incentive to do a thing is gone.

So once you nig-nogs start putting out IC posts you'll be invited into the inner sanctum. But I want the thread to be used too, at least so there's conditions under which it can be bumped legitimately.

[Byrd Man]

Aaron with the iron fist.

[Letter Bee]

I want posts before I hand out Discord information. Since as I told Vilage while waiting for my post-class lunch: I don't want people hanging out on Discord and blowing all their imagination on organizing their position in relation to others, so when it comes time for launch all incentive to do a thing is gone.

So once you nig-nogs start putting out IC posts you'll be invited into the inner sanctum. But I want the thread to be used too, at least so there's conditions under which it can be bumped legitimately.

@Dinh AaronMk

Perhaps the thread can be used as a storehouse of images and summaries of the world situation as the latter changes?

Also...about colonies; the IC post I drafted kinda assumes that Vietnam is still French, Malaya is still British, and Indonesia is still Dutch.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Aaron with the iron fist.

@Byrd Man

Break 'em with chains.

[Byrd Man]

Since you are the United States, @Byrd Man, I was wondering if you are up to talking about the relationship between Central America and your nation (if I decide to play as them)?

@The Spectre

Even if the US is more isolationist, they still have hegemony over the Americas. This world is a bit more reactionary when it comes to things, so Jimmy Carter and the Panama Canal ain't happening.

[Vilageidiotx]

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Perhaps the thread can be used as a storehouse of images and summaries of the world situation as the latter changes?

Also...about colonies; the IC post I drafted kinda assumes that Vietnam is still French, Malaya is still British, and Indonesia is still Dutch.

@Letter Bee

We could give a pass to a few colonies, but most of them should have broke loose. Hell, it's 1960, in the real world where the French and British won two world wars most of the colonies were gone by then anyway, so in a world where Europe suffered more instability, they should have less of a hold on the colonies. .

[Wilted Rose]

Yeah, WW1 historically destroyed the credibility of reactionary and monarchism in terms of politics. That's not the case. If anything, our Great War proved Monarchism is more then capable of standing up to Democracy. So reactionary governments around the world are for more credible amd likely. Won't stop the rising tide of the left though.

[Letter Bee]

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We could give a pass to a few colonies, but most of them should have broke loose. Hell, it's 1960, in the real world where the French and British won two world wars most of the colonies were gone by then anyway, so in a world where Europe suffered more instability, they should have less of a hold on the colonies. .

@Vilageidiotx

Ah, so, if I do not change my post, I would be trying to overthrow already-independent states and set up Syndicalist governments over them.

[Letter Bee]

Yeah, WW1 historically destroyed the credibility of reactionary and monarchism in terms of politics. That's not the case. If anything, our Great War proved Monarchism is more then capable of standing up to Democracy. So reactionary governments around the world are for more credible amd likely. Won't stop the rising tide of the left though.

@Wilted Rose

To be fair, the reverse can be construed; Democracy is more than capable of standing on equal terms with Monarchism?

[Vilageidiotx]

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Ah, so, if I do not change my post, I would be trying to overthrow already-independent states and set up Syndicalist governments over them.

@Letter Bee

I'm not sure a syndicalist system would have the mechanisms to do that.

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To be fair, the reverse can be construed; Democracy is more than capable of standing on equal terms with Monarchism?

@Letter Bee

If anything reactionaries will have an advantage in PoW world due to the fact that there is no Hitler or WW2.

[Byrd Man]

If anything reactionaries will have an advantage in PoW world due to the fact that there is no Hitler or WW2.

@Vilageidiotx

There is/was a Hitler. He just ended up like Andy Warhol.

[Letter Bee]

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I'm not sure a syndicalist system would have the mechanisms to do that.

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If anything reactionaries will have an advantage in PoW world due to the fact that there is no Hitler or WW2.

@Vilageidiotx

1.) Oh? Tell me more?

2.) True.

Anyway, as my post draft seems to contradict established lore and potential player's ambitions, mind if I post it here so that people can point out inconsistencies and problems?

[Vilageidiotx]

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1.) Oh? Tell me more?

@Letter Bee

It takes a lot of organization and cash to project your power beyond your own country. A decentralized syndicalist nation wouldn't have a central body powerful enough to go through the work of invading overseas.

Its like how the UN doesn't really have power projection. The UN is not centralized, so it cannot project any hard power, it has to rely on the willingness of its members to project that power in its name.

[Letter Bee]

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It takes a lot of organization and cash to project your power beyond your own country. A decentralized syndicalist nation wouldn't have a central body powerful enough to go through the work of invading overseas.

Its like how the UN doesn't really have power projection. The UN is not centralized, so it cannot project any hard power, it has to rely on the willingness of its members to project that power in its name.

@Vilageidiotx

What about Rojava IRL?

Edit: Or is Democratic Confederalism sufficiently different from Syndicalism? I seem to recall Rojava having a federal structure elected from bottom-up...

[Dinh AaronMk]

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What about Rojava IRL?

Edit: Or is Democratic Confederalism sufficiently different from Syndicalism? I seem to recall Rojava having a federal structure elected from bottom-up...

@Letter Bee

Rojava's in open revolution. If not to simply maintain its territories against enemies at open war with it then its goals is to at least turn Syria 180 degrees from Assad. But it's only got two real options, it's not like it's going to invade Turkey. Hell, if anything it'll leave the Turkish Kurds to their own decisions once the PKK members serving in Rojava now go home with more battle experience and a rallying cry for their own communities; assuming Rojava survives.

But in cases like the Ukrainian Free Territory, Revolutionary Catalonia, or even the EZLN the name of the game isn't so much to exert ideological power against someone else but to protect what they got from someone else. Historically speaking, the primitive socialism practiced by much of the world before feudalism or even modern capitalism wasn't as organized as the feudal monarch or the corporation to go on the offensive. From a tankie perspective, this is why figures like Lenin are good because they embody enough state centralization to organize resources to go on the counter offensive, where as figures like Makhno may be looked at as the romantic cause that got lost; incapable of seizing extra-territorial power due to the decentralized nature of the commune.

[Letter Bee]

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Rojava's in open revolution. If not to simply maintain its territories against enemies at open war with it then its goals is to at least turn Syria 180 degrees from Assad. But it's only got two real options, it's not like it's going to invade Turkey. Hell, if anything it'll leave the Turkish Kurds to their own decisions once the PKK members serving in Rojava now go home with more battle experience and a rallying cry for their own communities; assuming Rojava survives.

But in cases like the Ukrainian Free Territory, Revolutionary Catalonia, or even the EZLN the name of the game isn't so much to exert ideological power against someone else but to protect what they got from someone else. Historically speaking, the primitive socialism practiced by much of the world before feudalism or even modern capitalism wasn't as organized as the feudal monarch or the corporation to go on the offensive. From a tankie perspective, this is why figures like Lenin are good because they embody enough state centralization to organize resources to go on the counter offensive, where as figures like Makhno may be looked at as the romantic cause that got lost; incapable of seizing extra-territorial power due to the decentralized nature of the commune.

@Dinh AaronMk

Can I retcon my Philippines to be a regular Federal Republic with some trappings of Syndicalism instead, then?

[Letter Bee]

My IC Post Draft

Iron Lady, Part One

Priscilla Aglipay-Rizal was many things.

She was a revolutionary, having founded the 'Second Katipunan' alongside her father, Gregorio, and her husband, Manuel Rizal*. She was a fighter, as shown in countless actions against the exploitative semi-feudal landowners who were reeling from the Americans' sudden weakening and withdrawal. She was a diplomat, having persuaded Japan to focus on the disorder in China and China to focus on Japan's ambitions instead of the 'temporary' weakness of the Philippines. She was also an unlikely leader; when her father - the great Gregorio Aglipay - was killed in action, Priscilla had led the Second Katipunan alongside her husband before he was killed as well.

Now, however, all of that was foreshadowed by the fact that once the Americans had withdrawn to focus on their Second Civil War, and the remaining landowners had been forced to toe the line or be driven out, she ruled.

The strongest woman in the Philippines, she nevertheless insisted on holding free and fair elections to legitimize her rule and her taking on the titile of 'Lady President', after which she chose to abandon Malacanang Palace, the traditional seat of power in Manila, and instead chose to live in a relatively modest house in the walled city of Intramuros. And it is in that house where the New Philippines arose, a Philippines of smallholder farmers, networks of worker-owned businesses, and a few state-owned corporations. After that came the manufacturing of consumer goods through cottage industry and the generation of electricity from human waste and excess farm products. True, her Philippines was not as rich and prosperous as the other nations, nor as 'competitive' in economic terms, but they got by and even thrived in their own way.

But it wasn't enough. As Priscilla Aglipay-Rizal showed her hospitality by serving tea and pastries to the delegates at the meeting she was holding in her modest home, before taking her seat, she smiled and said:

"Greetings; if you all will forgive me for such humble but unbecoming behavior of a Head of State, we can now begin discussing the destruction of our Monopolist oppressors. I hope you would also enjoy the cakes? They are a local recepie," Wham.

Lady Trung of Vietnam was well-acquainted with Priscilla's...quirks, and smiled, saying warmly, "You do not have to remind us that you are a wife and mother to all, not just your nation. That said, perhaps your child can have a few bootleg Mosin-Nagants* for the fight against 'Emperor Bao Dai'? Those would be quite heavenly."

Priscilla returned the warmth with a nod, "A few thousand have already been manufactured by the Association of Small Arms Manufacturers in the country. You have to arrange for their transport, of course, as well as the food, the medicines, and the Molotov-level liquor that both tastes good and burns well." Translation: We have them and will give them, but you have to learn how to arrange for their smuggling yourself.

Ahmad Hussein, from Java, smiled indulgently at that before attempting a harder bargain. "The People of Indonesia all hate the ruling regime, but the majority are...wary about the Anti-Monopolist roots of your movement. The rich merchants and landowners and other supporters of the Junta would fight to the death if the alternative is to lose their stolen wealth. Basically, they have the money, and without it, the Junta cannot be overthrown, or would merely be replaced by people who are little different."

The plea for money inwardly annoyed Prisicilla, but there was a foundation of truth behind this behavior; she was woman enough to acknowledge it. Looking pointedly at Ahmad, the lady said; "You are in luck; the Association of Gold Miners has discovered a new lode, and can lend you a kilogram or two of fine, pure gold dust. Of course, arrangements for transport and concealment have to be made by you."

A sound of a throat clearing; Anthony Walter Dyrell Brooke, former ruler of Sarawak until the British had made the region a direct colony, wanted all eyes focused on him. The ex-royal, whose genuine empathy to the Malay people his dynasty had went native for had pushed him into collaboration with his 'social inferiors', then spoke, "We have willing men. We have our own arms and money aplenty. We have supplies and sympathizers. But Sarawak will never be free if Britian is not openly defied, and that you cannot do yet. So I must ask you, Lady President of the Philippines; how goes China? How goes Japan? How goes the need to forge an alliance to cleanse the region of swindlers and oppressors and false empires?"

Priscilla smiled at this near-defiance, and said, "Why, my ambassadors are already on their way. Raul and Orlando are heading to the Chinese and Japanese; the ball is in the latter's court now."

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin%E2%80%93N…