[OOC] The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter

Why does he think he needs to tell her the motto?

It sounds cool, and title drop.

He told her because he was elaborating about the city itself, because he was in that city and that is topical. If we'd ever return to the city, it might be a good idea to know why the people behave that way and why he behaved in such a way toward it's citizens.

World building. He complained in his thoughts about the city previously, trying to make it obvious that he has some kind of negative history here.

Showing off his personality, his disdain for the city and his honesty, all apart of his character.

But potential for what? Becoming more? Surviving? Understanding?

That's something the character can decide what he meant. It's just the characters personal and vague feelings.

But he mentioned that the other slaves couldn't help themselves, let alone him more concrete reasons to act in such a case, goes against his character. So that's why he gave such a vague response.

(Though it's also a lie, and she closely resembles his deceased wife and that's why he picked you and had a dress of his wife as a keepsake, that fit her almost perfectly. Spoiler alert? :P)

I understood why he needed her. But not why he offered her freedom.

Like I said he doesn't like the act of slavery. He only has her, to help get his kids back. Plus, He's desperate.

Offering freedom seems like what any slave would -want- to hear. I think that be a good motivation for helping as well. Especially since he's being sincere about his motivations.

[KatherinWinter]

are these kids, teens, young adults, or full grown men?

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter

Well, context clue of Bastian calling them 'drunkards'. I'd reasonably expect them not to be kids. Childish behavior aside.

The two men stood up recoiled, with shaking legs.

If kids, I'd call them boys. If teenagers, I'd call them teens. ;P

People old enough to get drunk at a pub, at the very least. Probably young enough to reasonably run away quickly. You could imagine them in anyway you want otherwise. But adult is the answer to the question. xP

[KatherinWinter]

This is a medieval setting people didn't have to be 21 to drink. Teens could drink. Young adults could men.

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter I guess point taken. x3 But yeah, 'man' on it's own usually should imply adult. Once it hits that level, I'm willing for it to be any age you'd like. I didn't specify because wasn't super important. :P

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilence It could be. Young adult and teens acting like that, especially when drunk, would be acceptable. A grown adult not so much.

[SleepingSilence]

@SleepingSilence It could be. Young adult and teens acting like that, especially when drunk, would be acceptable. A grown adult not so much.

@KatherinWinter

I didn't have a specific age in mind, so feel free to make it whatever you decide, but if it was younger/barely adults. I'd put young men.

Well, it implies that it was throwing rocks that were close to hitting a horse. So animal abuse, or really hitting people with rocks in general, isn't the best idea or exactly "acceptable behavior". I'm sure even less so in medieval times where people cut off kids hands for stealing food. :P

I'm assuming you're asking this because you want to know how your own character would react?

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilence mostly. Liz would react differently to different ages. I was thinking you meant adult as in Liz's age or older. But that's pretty juvenile behavior so I thought I would make sure that I was on the right path.

[KatherinWinter]

I don't understand this part of his thoughts: my horse only travels anywhere with me..."

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter The horse is well trained and raised by him at birth. She only allows him to ride her and will throw off anyone else who tries to ride her. A very stubborn horse, that really only likes him.

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilence Horses that pull wagons aren't usually ones that people ride.

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter It's a horse pulling a cart, not a carriage. He is riding the horse when he is traveling. I made it clear in the previous post, he got onto the horse. But there's no seat on the cart.

I guess that's not super typical, so I should have clarified that. :P Maybe I'll clarify it's what his own village did, so it's something specifically made with that in mind. (Though the horse wouldn't move regardless.)

[KatherinWinter]

I guess I was picturing a carriage or wagon since they are going some distance and hoping to rescue his kids. That would mean alot of supplies. If the cart has no seat where are they sitting? I assumed they were behind the horse but where they on it?

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter Now I did specify a horse drawn cart, it has a lot of supplies on it. But it's also not all of his supplies, which I can get into later. She doesn't have much room back there.

He only knew/heard about the slave trade by chance. His plans/equipment haven't been dealt with yet and his current supplies have not been gathered to rescue his kids. He went off to deal with the "targets" he was given by the marketplace beastkind. They'll be returning back to the kingdom after. The true journey hasn't started just yet.

As I just said, he is riding the horse. And she is sitting on the back of the cart on the floor.

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilenceI got that there wasn't much room. But I thought you meant on the seat. I was picturing something like: Which would allow them to sit side by side in front of the supplies. But it sounds like you were going with something more like: with him on the horse and her behind them.

You mean to tell me his kids were kidnapped and he finished his jobs rather than grabbing supplies and chasing after them?

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter Yeah, the second one is more accurate, (was having trouble finding a picture example myself.) Though it's a larger cart. It's a strong horse. What can I say? ;P

He doesn't know where his kids even are. And he doesn't know who kidnapped them, he only got a message that they were kidnapped. They didn't even give him any particular demands. So he assumes, it's someone whose out for vengeance. He knows someone that -MIGHT- know. But he needs a human to get into those locations, to get those answers. And that marketplace place person is a relationship that is giving/sharing information to him, for getting work done.

[SleepingSilence]

I feel like some of these questions could be answered in IC. xP

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilence hmm... ok. I think less of him for not knowing this stuff. He has no trail to follow and the kidnappers are days ahead of him. He isn't going to find them even with help.

[SleepingSilence]

@KatherinWinter Haha. Well it's not really his fault. But he wouldn't be desperate if he had all the clues. Ya know? He wouldn't need a slave, if he knew where they were and how to get them. It makes sense for the plot that he doesn't have all the information. He isn't a genius. He has a solider's mind.

And again, those odds have crossed his mind, hence his desperation. He has a trail to follow, but it's not concrete. He was given no information on their direct kidnapping. Him having information would mean he either saw the kidnapping take place...which he's strong and fast, so you'd question how they got the better of that? And if it was strength, then a slave without strength wouldn't help. So he is using people with more knowledge because that's what he lacks. Or that he's just super smart and well cultured. And if that was the case, he'd probably have more friends, he could just ask them to help him find his kids. Or we get into stuff he has no realistic sense of knowing, which makes the plot/character less believable.

[KatherinWinter]

@SleepingSilence LOL I have done this plot before. His kids were kidnapped while he was away (that's how I usually get around the whole strength thing)> I don't blame him for not knowing exactly who took them or where they were taken. But right now he is several days behind with only a vague trail to follow. I don't want it to be impossible for them to rescue the kids. I understand his lack of knowledge. I do not understand why he wasted time completing a job rather than getting supplies. I understand why he needs Liz although I am not sure that she has the skills he needs to rescue the kids. But I am willing to see. Maybe she will surprise me.