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Talon has a force of about 200 total mercs and thugs, plus himself. Though that only goes so far.
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Evvie has lost numerous times by people who find other ways to defeat her then brute strength. Plus the standard clones are only going to be in low intermediate tier where they probably can be overpowered by a lot of characters, so they will go down even easier then the real Evvie. They are tougher then waves of generic mooks, but can still be brought down in large quantities about as easily as bringing down the real Evvie by herself.
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I fight you and throw myself and three copies that are the same tier as you whom I am fighting, tell me how it is fair? I have four versions of myself, all with the same basic powers, all able to harm you and you are a single opponent, with only one attack and defense. Four equally powered attacks against one, its like a four one one street fight, your logic of how Evvie has been beaten before is not taking into account FOUR Evvies against one foe.
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Talon has many defenses against multiple foes and multiple attacks. Just Saiyan.
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But the clones are much weaker. They can't possibly fight good enough in such low numbers to be of much assistance at all to higher level tier battles. It's like saying how can Han fight 4 stormtroopers when there are 4 of them. He just can because he's better then them. Now if I sent 4 stormtroopers against a character who's an unarmed Jawa then yes, that would be unfair, but I don't see your point. I thought, in a multiverse setting, I'd be allowed to send my 4 stormtroopers into such a fight if I wanted.

Plus they wouldn't be helping the real Evvie, who would be on her own unless meeting up other playable characters.
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No you don't, If they are all equal strength to me, with my powers and defenses you cannot beat me, By logic your defenses will run out and eventually fail you because to do otherwise would be a God-Mode fight.

I think I am going to have to invoke the NoW tourney summoning rules. where you can have as many weak summons, which can be killed with ease by an opponent, that cannot be controlled by you in any manner save attack or defend, and a few lower tiered summons and possible one equal tiered summons to equalize it.
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ImportantNobody said
But the clones are much weaker. They can't possibly fight good enough in such low numbers to be of much assistance at all to higher level tier battles. It's like saying how can Han fight 4 stormtroopers when there are 4 of them. He just can because he's better then them. Now if I sent 4 stormtroopers against a character who's an unarmed Jawa then yes, that would be unfair, but I don't see your point. I thought, in a multiverse setting, I'd be allowed to send my 4 stormtroopers into such a fight if I wanted.Plus they wouldn't be helping the real Evvie, who would be on her own unless meeting up other playable characters.


Clones by definition are not weaker than you, they are you hence a clone.
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I won't be including them then. I thought we could have a faction but apparently I was mistaken.
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If there comes a time where I want to toss in a bruiser character for the RP, I just have one simple question.

What's the character size limit?
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If there comes a time where I want to toss in a bruiser character for the RP, I just have one simple question.What's the character size limit?


Great minds think alike. ^
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Well I have two characters who only have one attribute each that makes them bruisers, otherwise they're not particularly powerful.

And knowing the size limit will help me choose which character to use.
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Clones by definition are not weaker than you, they are you hence a clone.


Those are perfect clones though. What if the clones suffered from inefficiency in the cloning procedure?

Also, Nobody, I might have to ask you to look at Niks' dialogue for awhile while he's using Evvie's suit.
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ImportantNobody said
I won't be including them then. I thought we could have a faction but apparently I was mistaken.


You can create a faction, but to make it as you want and to make it inherently fair for your opponent the NoW tourney rules will be used, which makes it as you say four weak summoned stormtroopers vs. Han Solo, not four Stormtroopers who are equal strength to Han.

Size limit? Physical size? I suppose as large as the Marvel Comics Celestials who tower at 2,000 feet tall.
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Those are perfect clones though. What if the clones suffered from inefficiency in the cloning procedure?Also, Nobody, I might have to ask you to look at Niks' dialogue for awhile while he's using Evvie's suit.


They cannot copy the demigod form, which also provided an in general boost in ability in her normal form as well. Without that they are much weaker, which can even put them in low tier. But I'm not sure they can be included now anyways so it doesn't matter much.

Okay, I'll look at it.

EDIT: Yeah, they'll just be like canon fodder.
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I'm almost certain they meant character size, or rather, how many can a person control. Like can I only have two(Say, Adin and Worren), or can I have an upper amount, like say

Rilla
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Worren, Trent, Derik, Jet, and Levius
Nihl and Terra
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etc., etc.
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Your faction of Evvies will be accepted under the NoW tourney rules which will be more than adequate for you to exert your evil dragon influence on the multiverse.
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So they can be a faction after all and not a summon?
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Rilla said
I'm almost certain they meant character size, or rather, how many can a person control. Like can I only have two(Say, Adin and Worren), or can I have an upper amount, like sayRilla Joseph Worren, Trent, Derik, Jet, and Levius Nihl and Terra Adinraen Diketsu Kimicho Kei'Taroetc., etc.


Ok, are you asking if you can have a number of existing characters running around who are the same character? Sure but remember the concept of multiverses...each version has something slightly different from the others, it might be personality, powers, relationships etc. That is a great concept becuase one version, say a dickish version runs into friends of another version who is quite nice. Talk about confusion and split personalities...lol
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Skallagrim said
You can create a faction, but to make it as you want and to make it inherently fair for your opponent the NoW tourney rules will be used, which makes it as you say four weak summoned stormtroopers vs. Han Solo, not four Stormtroopers who are equal strength to Han. Size limit? Physical size? I suppose as large as the Marvel Comics Celestials who tower at 2,000 feet tall.


Prefect, that is well under the size limit I wanted.
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ImportantNobody said
So they can be a faction after all and not a summon?


Faction yes, summoned rules are what are going to be used but yes they can be a faction. I will dig out the summoned rules and add them to the rules set.
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