[OOC] BIONICLE: Spirits of Kongero Nui

[Jove]

I may be late, but can I join this group?

Lasafar

Name:Lasafar
Gender: Male
Species: Matoran
Description: Lasafar desperately wants to prove that he's just as good as anyone else. Anything he finds himself to have a talent for, he tries to perfect. He has polished his armor and sleek mask to a silvery sheen. His perfectionism makes him seem snobby or even mean to other Matoran, but he really is trying his best to uphold the island's ideals, and just has no clue on how to act around people who don't try as hard as him.
Appearance:
-As a Matoran, Lasafar has sleek armor and a powerless Matatu in the Great style, that he had polished to a silvery sheen. He has green eyes.
-Lasafar has not yet become a Toa.
Element: Magnetism
Mask: Powerless Matatu in the Great style.
Occupation: Lasafar has his own machinist's workshop in Fa-Congro. He performs repairs and makes his own parts and tools, which are of high quality.
Tools: Machinist's tools (adjustable wrench, fire staff and welding goggles, screwdriver, chisels, files, and measuring tools)
Relationships: TBD
Bag: Spare parts (screws, nuts and bolts, and filler metal), and a few widgets.

@Sedjwick, @Argetlam350 Maybe for relationships our characters met at a craftsman's fair, became friends, and have kept in contact since?
@AmpharosBoy Lasafar plays in a sports team from time to time. Maybe our characters met at a pick-up game, and Lasafar buys good scrap that Nohros finds?

[tobiax]

@Jove Thanks for showing up! To ease your concerns, I don't aim for this to be a particularly rapid game.

[Argetlam350]

@Jove I'm fine with that idea.

[Sedjwick]

@tobiax Revised character sheet now ready for review:

Varana of Fe-Congro

Name: Varana
Gender: male
Species: Matoran
Description: If you were to ask any of the Fe-Matoran about Varana, the two most frequently used terms would likely be "lazy" and "allergic to work," though Varana himself would contend that neither term is particularly accurate. Varana is certainly not lazy by any means; he leads a very active lifestyle, rarely sitting still for more than a few minutes at a time unless he has become engaged in an activity that has captured his undivided attention, of which there are a few. As to the charge of being allergic to work, this may be slightly more accurate, but Varana would again contend that even his "adventuring" has applications to his job since said "adventuring," by Varana's argument, leads him to finding lost tools that have functions that he could rediscover, which would in turn lead to an overall advancement in the weaponsmithing abilities of himself and all Fe-Matoran, and while this argument may not be entirely inaccurate, Varana seems to find more enjoyment out of the adventure itself than what he finds on the adventures that could advance Fe-Matoran weaponsmithing.
In addition to his adventurous nature, Varana also possesses a thirst for knowledge said to rival even the (laziest) Ce-Matoran. In fact, Varana has spent a fair amount of time over the years among the scholarly Ce-Matoran, learning what he can from them, often interviewing the eldest of the Ce-Matoran regarding times past, and such momentous events as the Great Exodus and the heroic feats of the mighty Toa. Varana has also traversed the eerily quiet halls of the temple of De-Congro, poring over any texts contained within the sacred building, as well as searching for any hidden treasures and lost texts the temple may house when he's certain no one is looking. As of now, he has yet to find anything of particular interest even within the most remote corners of the temple.
Appearance:
-Varana has the typical compact body of a Matoran with armor that is mostly a dark orange/dark red color with the exception of his hands and feet which are slightly shiny steel gray in color.
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Element: Fe Matoran/Iron
Mask: Kanohi Kualsi/Mask of Quick Travel (powerless)
-----The mask looks identical to the one worn by Toa Iruini except it's dark red.
Occupation: Varana is "officially" a weaponsmith in Fe Congro, but he actually fashions himself an adventurer and collector of rare and valuable tools. While he is good at what he does, he spends far more time exploring every nook and cranny of Kongero Nui that he can find his way into and collecting any treasures that had been hidden there in days gone by. This can include anything from powerful weapons that may have been used by past Toa (though he can never prove this) to lost documents of forgotten history. Of things more on the former end of the spectrum, Varana will keep the finest specimens for himself, usually with the intent of learning their secrets and how to replicate them, while the tools of lesser quality he will sell alongside his own works, and those that are in suboptimal condition he will refurbish before selling. Surprisingly, no one ever seems to question whether the things Varana sells were made by Varana or were things he collected, despite it being a well-known fact that Varana spends far more time "adventuring" than he does actually working.
Tools: A large, heavy, and wickedly sharp sword that he found hidden under an old shrine in Fe Congro. He is convinced that it once belonged to a Toa, but has thus far been unable to figure out what it does other than slow him down and cut through virtually anything like warm butter (the floor of his workshop is littered with grooves carved by him dragging the sword around). He keeps this sword in his workshop most of the time since it's too big to lug around with him everywhere even if it would make a formidable weapon if he could wield it (which he can't).
A Chronicler's staff that he found in an abandoned home in Ce-Congro. Varana uses it as a spear.
A common disk launcher and disks:
-Remove poison 2x
-Shrink 1x
-Enlarge 1x
-Teleport 1x
-Reconstitute at random 1x
Relationships:

Journal:

Bag:

A few pockets for storing disks
Several pieces of oil cloth for wrapping and protecting the things he's collected until he can get them back home
A few hundred widgets - not rich by any means, but able to get by comfortably

[tobiax]

@Jove It's a little simple, but nothing's fundamentally wrong with it. I would like to get a better idea of what you have in mind long-term though.

[tobiax]

@Sedjwick In the future, I would prefer edits to reposts. In this instance specifically, though, you only changed the disc issue, and not any of the other more pressing matters that we discussed story-wise. The big issue being that it speaks directly counter to what I established in the opening post- namely that Toa have faded into mystery and that the Matoran of the Great Exodus built Kongero Nui themselves. Honestly it feels like you're trying to have your character "know all the secrets", so that you can use outside knowledge to your advantage. And frankly, that, plus your unwillingness to allow a barrier of knowledge, minor though it may be, between yourself as a player and myself as a GM, well, it's not necessarily a good sign. I can't say your character's accepted until I am fairly sure this won't create an issue of uncooperation in the future.

[Sedjwick]

@tobiax I'm not trying to have my character "know all the secrets" by any means, and I'm fairly certain I removed any real knowledge about the Toa besides the myths and legends that would be fairly common knowledge. Varana is a strong believer in the existence of Toa, and is looking for any way to back up that belief, which may be where you're getting the idea that I'm trying to circumvent the established canon, but I assure you that's not my intention. However, it would be easier to correct the issues if you would highlight the specific areas in my character sheet where things aren't working out so that I can see the actual issues that you're having.

[tobiax]

I don't want to have to disect everything- makes it feel less like a conversation and more like an attack. However, since it's what you wanted:

In fact, Varana has spent a fair amount of time over the years among the scholarly Ce-Matoran, learning what he can from them, often interviewing the eldest of the Ce-Matoran regarding times past, and such momentous events as the Great Exodus and the heroic feats of the mighty Toa. Varana has also traversed the eerily quiet halls of the temple of De-Congro, poring over any texts contained within the sacred building, as well as searching for any hidden treasures and lost texts the temple may house when he's certain no one is looking. As of now, he has yet to find anything of particular interest even within the most remote corners of the temple.

@Sedjwick

This right here- if I want to reveal something later, and I know I will, I don't want to run into contradictions of "Varana already knew that, and wasn't surprised" or things like "Why didn't Varana find that already?". It's a little too much getting around that opens a bit too many questions that I haven't had opportunities to answer yet.

A large, heavy, and wickedly sharp sword that he found hidden under an old shrine in Fe Congro. He is convinced that it once belonged to a Toa, but has thus far been unable to figure out what it does other than slow him down and cut through virtually anything like warm butter (the floor of his workshop is littered with grooves carved by him dragging the sword around). He keeps this sword in his workshop most of the time since it's too big to lug around with him everywhere even if it would make a formidable weapon if he could wield it (which he can't).

@Sedjwick

This should not exist in Kongero Nui honestly. No one was there to lose it, there was no reason to make it, as there hasn't been a Toa in Kongero Nui.

Honestly, six discs is still a lot, but it's a bit more reasonable. Still, since he's in refurbishing and not full on mask crafting, it raises the question of where, and more importantly how, he got them.

[Sedjwick]

@tobiax Thanks for the clarification. I'll review everything and do my best to make the necessary adjustments. In regards to your last question about the disks, however, where and how did the Matoran of Metru Nui get the disks that they often carried around when most of them weren't even in refurbishing, let alone crafting? I'm rather under the impression that disks are a relatively common commodity among Matoran, and so having a few would not be all that surprising, especially since all the ones he has are the base types rather than the types that are created from combining two or more of the base types (most of which I can't remember anyway). Other than that, should I still bump the number down a little further, or is six acceptable?

[tobiax]

@Sedjwick Kongero Nui isn't Metru Nui.

[Sedjwick]

@tobiax True, but disks seem to be a common thing among all Matoran, so I don't suppose that disks would be any less common in Kongero Nui than Metru Nui unless it's more like Mata Nui and the art of making Kanoka disks and masks that have actual power has actually been lost in the time since the Exodus, in which case he would just have 6 (or fewer) disks that have no power.

[tobiax]

You're missing the point again.

[Sedjwick]

What is the point, then?

[tobiax]

I don't think you're right for this RP.

[Sedjwick]

Now you're starting to get on my nerves. First you say I'm missing the point, then when I ask what the point is that I'm missing so that I can get the point and resolve the issue you say I'm not right for this RP? I'm trying my best to abide by your rules, but every time I ask what I feel is a perfectly legitimate question, you either don't answer it or say I'm not getting it.

[tobiax]

GM pants, activated.
The discs are the least of your issues regarding this character. You've only altered the minor issues and not the fundamental problem with the character submission.
This is an RP. Things are going to be different than what you've experienced with Bionicle in the past. You have to understand that not everything you know as a player is going to apply.
And to be honest I believe I have answered your questions to the best of my ability to avoid spoiling what I have planned.
Kongero Nui hasn't had any Toa before. You want to explore anything significant? Roleplay it out. You want to talk to NPC's? Write and roleplay it out.

[Sedjwick]

The discs are the least of your issues regarding this character. You've only altered the minor issues and not the fundamental problem with the character submission.

@tobiax

I've acknowledged the fundamental issues that you've mentioned and am in the process of working those out, but at the same time I do want to make sure some of the lesser details are also not an issue, but when I tried to address it, all you said is I'm missing the point.

This is an RP. Things are going to be different than what you've experienced with Bionicle in the past. You have to understand that not everything you know as a player is going to apply.

@tobiax

I understand that. I'm no stranger to RPing, but at the same time, the fact that this RP is based in an established world means that you are automatically adopting some of that world's lore into the RP. That said, I will do my best to abide by the lore that you have established and allow to be known to the characters.

And to be honest I believe I have answered your questions to the best of my ability to avoid spoiling what I have planned.

@tobiax

Acknowledged

Kongero Nui hasn't had any Toa before. You want to explore anything significant? Roleplay it out. You want to talk to NPC's? Write and roleplay it out.

@tobiax

Like I said, I'm no stranger to RPing. I know how things like this work. However, seeing as we are not coming into the story on the first day of the lives of these characters, they are each going to have some knowledge base that is already established before the RP begins and some significant events that happened prior to the beginning of this story.

[tobiax]

I don't feel this is as productive as it could be.

[tobiax]

@Reflection Still up for this?

[Sedjwick]

I don't feel this is as productive as it could be.

@tobiax

And there you go again, not even attempting to actually communicate the issues with me. Thanks, but I'm out. I think I can tell when I'm not wanted.