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-BR-Over the top premise-Barely justified why a class was fighting to the death-It's Quentin Tarantino's favorite movie that he wish he madeYou seem to be getting rather defensive of something we all said we enjoyed. Doesn't mean it has to be hailed as flawless. It's a healthy discussion about two movies with similar themes.But trying to justify a ridiculous, over the top director choice (and I guess the comic, given your signature), is silly. I get annoyed at most movies for the same shit because I was in the army and own firearms, so I'm around them a lot. It's just hard to take a character seriously as a super killer when he flaps his arm around like an inbred turkey with an Uzi and murders a shitload of characters when he shouldn't have hit a damn thing.Although, it is amusing to pretend he has aimbot.


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And I'm glad that you recognize the fact that I didn't voice any complaints about HG being a ripoff of BR, I simply saw both have basically the same premise with different settings and compared the two. One I liked and one I disliked. I wouldn't agree with what you're saying about HG's premise for the games being any more believable than BR, I'd say both are equally unbelievable because both are the same fucking premise, using arena deathmatches with children as a means of preventing rebellion. Stopping populations from rioting by constantly keeping them focused on brutal combat. It's an illogical concept that couldn't possibly work in realistic application. The difference between BR and HG is that BR embraces the ridiculousness of the concept where HG puts all this work into creating a reality where it would succeed while still failing to address the ultimate flaws of the concept.


Yeah, that's totally cool. Everyone's got different opinions and preferences.

I don't remember Battle Royale going for the political side of things in the same way Hunger Games did. Could be poor memory, but I recall the explanation in Battle Royale being, "You kids are spoiled snots (for wearing clothing or being 20 years younger than the showrunner or some shit) and we adults here hate you, so time to die motherfuckers." I imagined it as those people who used to say "Don't trust anyone over 30" changing to "Don't trust anyone under 30," to the extreme end of assholedom.

And, I don't recall it getting broadcasted the way Hunger Games did, to everyone else.

The Roman Colosseum was used the same way, it was real, and I assume it worked to some extent, unless tradition and really morbid tastes just kept it in style. They didn't each everyone how to fight and brutally murder people, or teach how to gather into a strong military/militia force to fight against the dominant force, they just took the people they didn't like and wanted society to not act similar to or be and put 'em to the death in a way that entertained and warned the masses simultaneously.

Similarly, with both movies, the set-up is only one survivor that ever gets out, and knowing more about how to kill, on their own or in small numbers of others, doesn't suddenly amass into a giant threat. I assume in Hunger Games, it also helped that the winners could live pretty comfortable afterward as reward. Easier to take the reward than fight against a major power with no organized system to do so.
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Two points I'm a correct you

It was a way to deal with super bad schools(in terms of behaviour and shit)

And yeah, it was broadcasted to some extent. I haven't seen it recently so I maybe wrong.
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In the manga, the alive students were broadcasted in the country. But it wasn't a TV show.

But I agree with Kiriyama being ridicilous. He clearly represents a game hacker. Sees through walls, can't die, aimbot and stuff.

But still, I liked it as a tragic story rather than a deathmatch(though I like death games)
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I haven't even seen Battle Royal. But, welcome to what everyone fucking says that has seen both. Wow, go you. Also, the whole thing is supposed to be a message about government. At least the books, Hollywood is kinda being like the Capitol is with the portrayal of the important details of The Hunger Games.
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I haven't even seen Battle Royal. But, welcome to what everyone fucking says that has seen both. Wow, go you. Also, the whole thing is supposed to be a message about government. At least the books, Hollywood is kinda being like the Capitol is with the portrayal of the important details of The Hunger Games.


Aside from it trying to be soopar srs bsns, the overly ridiculous outfits of some of the characters, like even higher than comic level, and boring pacing, I can see why someone might like it.

With Battle Royal, it's over top craziness was in full view, and very uncompromising. I prefer Battle Royal . Also, before anyone thinks I'm wrong, let me remind you that this is purely my opinion. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I say, if you enjoy either film or both, you shouldn't really care about other opinions other than your own in regards to what you like and hate.
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Darog the Badger God said
Two points I'm a correct you It was a way to deal with super bad schools(in terms of behaviour and shit)And yeah, it was broadcasted to some extent. I haven't seen it recently so I maybe wrong.


Kiriyama said
In the manga, the alive students were broadcasted in the country. But it wasn't a TV show.But I agree with Kiriyama being ridicilous. He clearly represents a game hacker. Sees through walls, can't die, aimbot and stuff.But still, I liked it as a tragic story rather than a deathmatch(though I like death games)


Appreciate the clarification. :]

Darog: I was just going off memory of what I saw, myself. I liked the show, but I thought the justification made no fucking sense (going off the one-line excuse I thought it was earlier). It's possible I missed a line or part in the movie.
Neat sig, by the way. The animation's awesome.
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Thank you xD, been reading a lot of Guardians in prep for the movie 8D.

And yeah, it's been about 4 years since I've seen it.

I'd highly recommend the book though, a lot of it's political nature, and social commentary is more noticeable and has a bigger impact on the narration than you might think.
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