[OOC] Doll Master

[Krinos Solstice]

Major Ursa said
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Um...what?

[VitaVitaAR]

Um, sorry. ^^; I'm not sure I'll be judging bios at all today, I was at a convention with my girlfriend for most of the day and all. ^^;

[Krinos Solstice]

I figured as much, though I just thought I'd ask, just in case.

[Major Ursa]

Is there anything we forgot to cover...I wonder...?

[VitaVitaAR]

Huh?

[Major Ursa]

We've got who (characters), when (1800 to 1900 ish), where (Saulbine, fantasy AU-ish), why (guessing goals, aka the plot), and how (guessing more plot...)...just wondering if we're forgetting to address something, something that'll be asked when we initiate IC, and possibly slow us down in the future...
Hopefully not.

[VitaVitaAR]

Well, I've included all information that will not spoil plot details I intend to be a surprise.

[Major Ursa]

Okie dokie, then...I'll trust you will all the plot twists~!
*wink, wiggle wiggle*
X3 <( <3 )

[chukklehed]

Hey Ardent, I was just reading your Puppeteer, and you should really watch out for Melody. Your character wouldn't be able to sense her emotions in a fight, because when she's really fighting she doesn't have any.

[VitaVitaAR]

I think this is probably a good time to mention that any Puppeteers should be watching out for Dolls, really, given what they can do. ^^;

[chukklehed]

Well yeah, it's usually a good idea to avoid the people who can rip you out of the body you stole and devour you, but I was referring specifically between Yazuko and Melody, since Melody fights unaffected by emotion and Yazuko's powers involve reading and manipulating those emotions. On the other hand, Yazuko is in the best position to fuck with Melody by intentionally activating her emotionless state from a distance (By forcing her to feel as much fear as she would when under attack)

[Major Ursa]

I think a lot of trained individuals pretty much blank out their emotions during a tough fight...
Anyways...Scaevola won't ever intentionally show his true appearance, though there have been situations here or there when he's been forced out. If he does, on his own, it means he knows one of them (his enemy or himself) won't be leaving the battle alive.

[chukklehed]

Major Ursa said
I think a lot of trained individuals pretty much blank out their emotions during a tough fight...Anyways...Scaevola won't ever intentionally show his true appearance, though there have been situations here or there when he's been forced out. If he does, on his own, it means he knows one of them (his enemy or himself) won't be leaving the battle alive.

Actually it's pretty much impossible to consciously be emotionless unless you're some kind of Buddhist supermonk. You can suppress your emotions, you can even ignore them to the point that you don't even realize they're there, but there is always some kind of emotion that, if read, can broadcast your intentions. Melody fights ENTIRELY devoid of emotion, because she no longer thinks. She just becomes a creature of instinct.

[VitaVitaAR]

I guess, um... VV is very emotional when she fights... in a confident kind of way.

... Or a really angry way against certain opponents I guess.

Dead Heart Shooter is completely yandere so yeah.

Also, RP will be up tomorrow(well it's past twelve so technically today I guess) or the day after.

[Major Ursa]

I was thinking in terms of people reacting more efficiently, suppressing greater/excessive emotion in favor of logical and tactical thinking. I'm just saying, the better trained/more experienced dolls would probably be able to fight without letting emotion interfere...or else, use their emotions to give them that extra edge. Entirely devoid of emotion, fighting on instinct...not an uncommon thing, and not an entirely great thing either. What if they're an enemy who doesn't give off a dangerous sort of feel? Whose intentions aren't immediately detectable, if at all? A mine isn't dangerous (well...), till somebody's stepped on it or moved it in a specific way...there have been characters I've known of who exude a peaceful feeling, and are completely serene as they popped people's heads off with metal wire. Some dolls, doll hunters, puppeteers are much like this. Of course, if you're paranoid/super cautious, then I'm sure you're fine.

Vesper, on the other hand, fails at a lot of this stuffs...he's got a lot of growing up to do. I plan for him to freak out a bit at small injuries, and majorly freak out/practically have a seizure over nail-related injuries.

Also...I never really thought about it...but yandere reminds me a little of dependent personality disorder...just a little.

[VitaVitaAR]

I don't know, while there's certainly some dependence... well, obsession more like it, um, yandere seem too confident in their abilities to, say, solve problems and stuff like that for the object of their affection.

It's just that they kind of tend to go the route of murdering the source of the problems, and they are sometimes problems only in the yandere's mind.

... At least Dead Heart Shooter listens well?

[chukklehed]

You're putting a really nice spin on what is essentially a cocktail of Dependent Personality Disorder (I need you, never leave me), Narcissistic Personality Disorder (I'm the only one who can make you happy.) Paranoid Schizophrenia (Everybody is trying to take you from me.) and incredibly violent tenancies.

[Ardent Dawn]

I'm perfectly happy for some Dolls to have a natural edge over Yazuko - anyone going up against Sickle-Cell with a bladed instrument is going to have an interesting time, so things could always be worse :P

As far as Melody goes, it seems as though she would be experiencing a lot of hostile intention once she flips, even if it's fixed enough to stop Yazuko from picking up her normal cues about when someone intends to pull the trigger on her (since she's constantly in the same headspace). Certainly impossible to override using her projected emotions, but I'm open to discussion as to whether or not she'd be visible on her emotional radar. Even if she effectively became invisible to her radar once she flips, I'd be content with simply triggering that state at particularly awkward moments and dealing with the consequences :P How much target prioritisation does Melody retain when she triggers?

Also, interesting thought - if Yazuko can trigger Melody by bombarding her with fear and paranoia, how much would she be able to hold back Melody's transformation by dropping a dumpster's worth of peace and serenity on her head? It doesn't override the underlying emotions (so I doubt that she could simply keep her out of that state indefinitely), but how would things work if she didn't feel that either of them were in danger? It's all somewhat hypothetical, since she would still use her swords on Puppeteers regardless, but I could imagine circumstances where it would be relevant. On the same line of thought, does she simply return back to her normal state once there's no longer anyone else around to perceive as a threat, or are there more intricate cues that that?

[VitaVitaAR]

Okay, um, let's see...

Dead Heart Shooter... I'm not sure she entirely fits the actual disorders(the same with other yandere really), but that's a basic description of some of her thought processes really.

She does, however, fanatically follow Ada's orders to the point of literally doing absolutely anything she asks. So she can be kept from hurting innocent people, and she doesn't immediately go hurting innocent people.

But more importantly, we're getting close to the RP starting! I'll be getting up judgement on the remaining bios today.

Which brings me to a point I've been considering: Given that at least one of the ways to sever the connection between a Doll Master and a Doll is the total rejection of the Doll by the Master, there needs to be some level of compatibility between the two even if they conflict or even don't like each other much. There has to be something stopping the Doll Master from deciding they want nothing to do with this person.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because, well, if Amaya goes with their choice to pair their Doll with Erika after being accepted, the remaining Doll and Master... well, I've received some concerns from Rain and I feel they're kind of valid.

I really don't think a sweet-natured rich girl who wants to help people fits well with a Doll who enjoys leaving people in agony as they die. While I did say that Dolls and Masters conflicting is just fine, there's a certain point where I get worried that the Doll Master won't want to have anything to do with the Doll at all.

This is bad for both players.

So... I'm trying to think of a solution for this. Both are individually acceptable, but I have some concerns if they're forced to pair due to being the last ones available.

[Amaya Tamashii]

I personally don't mind it will leave it to you all I have a friend that might join that has a character that fits amaya