[OOC] The New Order(Post WW3 RP)

[WilsonTurner]

Sometimes, Dinh, maybe just say you don't see why one would like something, but maybe not go on to disprove it or something? It's kind of downing, at least from my perspective, if I weren't as good with grammar or spelling [or just didn't care to use it or learn it], and find myself put down for liking this and this, and for not knowing as much as someone else. Suggestion, but I've had people rage at me for me mentioning that I'm more advanced than them, even though I'm the one writing paragraphs with descriptions and such, and they're still going half-liners with *____* and -_______-, and taking no effort to do any more. I have done what you have done with them before [except on a smaller scale] and found that everyone hated me. I'm not sure if there are as many... 'free style' roleplayers like that here, but still. Something to think about.

And that doesn't mean you use logic to explain why I'm wrong. This is true, believe it or not. There are things that logic and reason will never change, sadly

[So Boerd]

As it turns out, the Confederation has a legal reason. If the dowry is paid, they may be reclaimed. I can take them by conquest/coup if it is an issue.

[null123]

So Boerd said
As it turns out, the Confederation has a legal reason. If the dowry is paid, they may be reclaimed. I can take them by conquest/coup if it is an issue.

Thats acceptable, but that opens up a crisis with the UK. You should also expect mass protest and rioting from those places.

[Dinh AaronMk]

So Boerd said
As it turns out, the Confederation has a legal reason. If the dowry is paid, they may be reclaimed. I can take them by conquest/coup if it is an issue.

It's also old enough to not be taken seriously anymore, and the UK'd probably decline the payment since the world has moved on so much. More so given the dynastic ownership of Scotland has ended, more-than-likely voiding all legal dealings with the state. And to compound that: so has the ruling house of England. There's no one left standing with any pretense to claim that debt. Even in Norway most likely.

Plus in EU and Viccy 2 terms: Norway lost the core a long time ago.

[TheEvanCat]

WilsonTurner said
Sometimes, Dinh, maybe just say you don't see why one would like something, but maybe not go on to disprove it or something? It's kind of downing, at least from my perspective, if I weren't as good with grammar or spelling [or just didn't care to use it or learn it], and find myself put down for liking this and this, and for not knowing as much as someone else. Suggestion, but I've had people rage at me for me mentioning that I'm more advanced than them, even though I'm the one writing paragraphs with descriptions and such, and they're still going half-liners with *____* and -_______-, and taking no effort to do any more. I have done what you have done with them before [except on a smaller scale] and found that everyone hated me. I'm not sure if there are as many... 'free style' roleplayers like that here, but still. Something to think about.And that doesn't mean you use logic to explain why I'm wrong. This is true, believe it or not. There are things that logic and reason will never change, sadly

I don't think I quite understand.

[WilsonTurner]

Oh, and duck, the armor suits aren't like the in-game suits. They've got a good resistance to small arms fire, to the point where they'd actually be able to take a dozen or so hits before getting something injured, like a laceration or broken bone. But, they do have enhanced reflexes and the like. Not super-duper, but better than humans that aren't taking martial arts classes for fun. And, obviously, connected to the service rifles the soldiers carry, and a special side-arm, so that they can see where they're pointing with a transparent laser-light-ish-thingy. Like, aiming without having to bring your rifle up. And, nightvision, infrared, etc.

But they're hard to make, so they're rare. See one, run away is your best bet, unless you're in close with an automatic shotgun, you're out of range with a heavy weapon, like a snuperrifle, or you have a couple spare grenades to toss.

But they might toss the grenades back!
That made the old CoD's so fun ^.^

[Dinh AaronMk]

WilsonTurner said
Oh, and duck, the armor suits aren't like the in-game suits. They've got a good resistance to small arms fire, to the point where they'd actually be able to take a dozen or so hits before getting something injured, like a laceration or broken bone. But, they do have enhanced reflexes and the like. Not super-duper, but better than humans that aren't taking martial arts classes for fun. And, obviously, connected to the service rifles the soldiers carry, and a special side-arm, so that they can see where they're pointing with a transparent laser-light-ish-thingy. Like, aiming without having to bring your rifle up. And, nightvision, infrared, etc.But they're hard to make, so they're rare. See one, run away is your best bet, unless you're in close with an automatic shotgun, you're out of range with a heavy weapon, like a snuperrifle, or you have a couple spare grenades to toss.But That made the old CoD's so fun ^.^

[Vilageidiotx]

WilsonTurner said
Sometimes, Dinh, maybe just say you don't see why one would like something, but maybe not go on to disprove it or something? It's kind of downing, at least from my perspective, if I weren't as good with grammar or spelling [or just didn't care to use it or learn it], and find myself put down for liking this and this, and for not knowing as much as someone else. Suggestion, but I've had people rage at me for me mentioning that I'm more advanced than them, even though I'm the one writing paragraphs with descriptions and such, and they're still going half-liners with *____* and -_______-, and taking no effort to do any more. I have done what you have done with them before [except on a smaller scale] and found that everyone hated me. I'm not sure if there are as many... 'free style' roleplayers like that here, but still. Something to think about.And that doesn't mean you use logic to explain why I'm wrong. This is true, believe it or not. There are things that logic and reason will never change, sadly

It's all about being able to take the burdens that come with power. Size means problems, this is inevitable. A big Empire will either have financial strain (America, Rome), issues derived from cultural walls (Britain, France), or issues with being so large that they can no longer keep a grip on their realms, militarily or bureaucratically (Fourth Reich, sorta kinda the Mongols). The problem isn't with your interests I don't think. It is with a pursuit of power that is too obviously equivalent to that kids on the playground who hogs all the powers and whines about how he can kill everybody but nobody can kill them.

If you're going to do "Four particle accelerators" for instance, than you have to accept a few reasonable consequences hitherto. They have to take up space. They have to be an energy drain that is a constant struggle. They have to be well known, since you can't hide shit with that sort of energy signature. You have to build these sorts of counterbalances. If you don't, all you will end up with is a hollow circle jerk.

Think about the Death Star. Here you have one of the most classic superweapons, yet it had a warm-up time and ventilation related to the massive waste its energy usage required. If the Death Star had no warm up and could just randomly zap through all the planets and enemy ships with no consequence, it would have been a shitty plot device. Likewise, if the movies worked out where Luke shows up to Ben/Obi Wan and told him what was happening leading Obi-Wan to put a simple end to the war by force-sploding the Death Star before force-suplexing the Emperor to death, they would have been consider shitty movies.

[TheEvanCat]

I'd pay to see an alternate ending where Obi-Wan suplexes Vader through the floor.

[Vilageidiotx]

"If you strike me down now, I will become more ripped than you can possibly imagine."

[darkwolf687]

Last time someone tried to take a set of islands from the UK, they got beat pretty badly, and that was on the other side of the world. While its true in these past 30 years the British Military Power has shrunk, they are still sufficient to defend the UK and in the case of a build up to a world war you'd likely see an increase in the military

While I admit my countries armed forces is not the largest or best equipped, they are one of the best trained and have a lot of experience in the art of war.

If the islanders didn't want to to, the UK wouldn't let them be conquered. We are talking about invading the UK here, they wont be chuffed one bit and you'd likely see a full war over it as a result, and the UK is one of the most powerful countries in Europe and a major player in the world

And then, if the people don't want it, they are liable to resist. You would likely encounter non-compliance, 'mistakes' in tasks, possibly strikes, protests and maybe, more rarely of course, violent action (Or maybe that's just the Football yobs... Hard to tell...)

[Dinh AaronMk]

Vilageidiotx said
"If you strike me down now, I will become more ripped than you can possibly imagine."

[WilsonTurner]

Well, Dinh, Duck's already given the go-ahead for my app. The suits are already in. Rare, still, even about higher persons of the APIRCA, but they're that one thing that makes anyone attacking say "Oh, shit" and think about their next move. A simple pistol won't solve this! Break something to flood the hallway with steam or smoke of some kind and try sneaking past [I might as well remove infrared, except for suits that are obviously modified for such], or just get a sledgehammer and knock him in the head, instead of sneaking past.

Think of it as incentive to be creative. They wouldn't be used as mercs or hirable military: too expensive, too difficult to make, nor would they be used for some kind of assault. Just guarding high-value.

And I never said anything about using antimatter as some kind of super weapon. Sure, you can toss a weak canister under a tank's tracks right before it rolls over it to destroy that area, but that'd be an incredibly expensive grenade. I was just thinking for it to be used when, later in the roleplay [if I'm still here or if it's still active], when everything is all stabilized and everything, it can be used to go UP, and be all Insignia. [Book reference.]

[null123]

I said no to those suits.
Also if you want to argue your suits please check Rule #3

[TheEvanCat]

Vilageidiotx said
"If you strike me down now, I will become more ripped than you can possibly imagine."

[Vilageidiotx]

TheEvanCat said

[WilsonTurner]

Then I'll just go with a juggarnaut, with a bit more advanced armor plating, due to the time difference.

[Dinh AaronMk]

How about you stop trying to generic vidya-game mob the RP?

[null123]

Dinh AaronMk said
How about you stop trying to generic vidya-game mob the RP?

Yes please.

[Vilageidiotx]

I suppose the best way to handle this is probably to stop focusing on armor and move over to characters and plot.