[OOC] Welcome Back to the Guild

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
Poor soul,not being able to watch it right away :(

I KNOW. It's bad enough it's been over a year since season 7 ended - but I've spent this whole hiatus knowing that I'll probably have to wait even longer than everyone else. DX

Oh well... At the very least, this hiatus convinced me to watch Classic Who, and that's definitely something to be thankful for.

xcalx1dw said
Oh, and Callum never asked the GM, he asked MuseAlso oops...double post...somehow

I am virtually positive you said "GM".

Blah, I'll edit later.

[Rithas]

I hope I don't sound like a douche but this is what I wrote,

"Um, Muse...quick question, what....else? I mean, can I do more stuff then that?" He asked him with a rather nervous look. he then turned his head to the GM, "A fluke doesn't happen twice" He muttered quietly, He kinda hoped the GM didn't hear it. He did notice the person that he swore was the person who was injured, and...well he was still injured but still, He kinda wished he was okay.

So he waited for muse to respond, or for something else to happen...Hopefully good

Again, I don't mean offence :( (Don't strike me down oh mighty GM)

The wait for Doctor who is so painful, especially when they did those mid season breaks...grr, but why can't they start it so it goes through the summer. Starting it when I have stuff to do is so annoying

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
I hope I don't sound like a douche but this is what I wrote, Again, I don't mean offence :( (Don't strike me down oh mighty GM)

You're fine - like I said I'll edit my post. Must've misread yours (admittedly I was getting quite a few up rather quickly - I sort of accidentally joined a lot of RP's at once...)

The wait for Doctor who is so painful, especially when they did those mid season breaks...grr, but why can't they start it so it goes through the summer. Starting it when I have stuff to do is so annoying

Eh, I joined the fandom recently enough that this current hiatus is the first one I've really waited through with no new content to keep me occupied. That's why I turned to old content instead. The Classics definitely served to make the wait less painful.

That's what I love about Doctor Who. You can binge the content all you want and it still feels like there's so much left to enjoy - not to mention all the episodes have really amazing rewatchability, especially once you watch the Classics.

Also if you haven't tried watching a lot of the minisodes, those can easily keep a Whovian busy for at least a day or two, depending on how quickly you decide to watch them.

[Rithas]

The worst wait was the one whole 'Doctor who is gone' one...9 years...Well way more of that if like me you like to forget about the movie..but I'm barely old enough for the movie to comprehend what the hell was going on

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
The worst wait was the one whole 'Doctor who is gone' one...9 years...Well way more of that if like me you like to forget about the movie..but I'm barely old enough for the movie to comprehend what the hell was going on

Well yes but I didn't live through that hiatus. Also back then it really wasn't a hiatus as much as it was a cancellation - and the fans didn't really expect the series to return anytime soon.

Also, what was wrong with the movie? I mean, other than the fact that it has a very different tone and feel than what we've come to expect from Who over the years and that it brings up some very interesting and unexpected details about the Doctor's character which all writers after the fact seem to have pretended never happened. I really can't blame the movie for those points, though - they were trying to create something that would result in a series reboot starting with the 8th Doctor, and since the old series did get cancelled due to lack of popularity, it makes sense that they'd try to go some different directions with it in an attempt to find something people liked. It also explains that one implied trait of the Doctor that has left the fans scratching their heads to this day, since the writers probably planned to explore that more during the hoped-for new series, only for the movie to not generate enough interest to make this happen.

It's sort of the same reason why I can't hate on season 1 of the actual new series, despite it being somewhat of a mess - they knew the show had been cancelled once before so they tried a whole bunch of new things to see which would be most popular and therefore test to see what direction the new show would take, and at the same time you can tell they're still trying to appeal to fans of the Classic series. It's like season 1 was their attempt at pleasing as many people as possible - with each episode targeted at a different group. Oh! And let's not forget that they were also bringing in huge new concepts (namely, the Time War) in order to make the Whoniverse feel really different than it did in the Classics - oh and the Doctor was also testing out a lot of new gadgets to find something that could potentially become nearly as useful and as signature as the sonic screwdriver (and they were successful in this with the psychic paper). So yeah that's a lot to fit into one season! I acknowledge that season 1 isn't the show's best but given their situation and what they were trying to do, I really have to appreciate the effort.

The movie's the same way for me - except I like it a lot more than season 1 on account of the fact that Paul McGann became my 2nd favorite Doctor of all time and Seven -> Eight was probably the most horrifying regeneration to watch, and that's what made it so memorable.

Also I edited my post.

[Rithas]

While I do agree on all of your points, I do think that the movie was impartially different because it was intended for american audiences, produced by american producers. It was meant to be a starting point for a "American" Doctor who series and everything...Sadly they didn't realize the reason why Doctor who became so popular was because it was Doctor who, not...whatever the hell that movie was. It wasn't just that obviously though.. ( the eight doctor is really awesome, but the way they made the regeneration happen with the doctor being shot made me angry)

Season 1 was a bit of a mess, but I liked it. Christopher Eccleston is one of my favorite doctor and so I went along happily. And for the first season since...a decade and a half it did really good. Also, doctor who was back and I was extremely giddy. Looking back at it now I still think it's a very good season overall.Though basically all seasons are good, it was quite better then a couple. Even if rose is the worst companion of the new series :D

Doctor who rambles are fun

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
While I do agree on all of your points, I do think that the movie was impartially different because it was intended for american audiences, produced by american producers. It was meant to be a starting point for a "American" Doctor who series and everything...Sadly they didn't realize the reason why Doctor who became so popular was because it was Doctor who, not...whatever the hell that movie was. It wasn't just that obviously though.. ( the eight doctor is really awesome, but the way they made the regeneration happen with the doctor being shot made me angry)

The Doctor Who movie was made by Americans? *checks the Whology book to verify*

...Huh. Co-produced by Americans, at least. So I guess that's something.

Still, I really can't blame them for taking it in some different directions. Yes, the show was popular... at one point in time, then it got cancelled. They were trying to avoid what the show was like (at least in its later years) in order to avoid what made it unpopular. Yes, it turned the movie into something very different from the rest of the show, but I liked it for what it was, at least. The way I see it, there's no reason to dislike something just because it's different. Ever. Judge something based on how well it turned out by itself, I always say. Sometimes change can drastically improve a show.

As for the regeneration, well, you knew they couldn't make the Doctor's death the climax of the story unlike usual since Eight was meant to be the star of that one, not Seven. Still, despite that, though, the regeneration was kind of the most memorable part for me - particularly because of the anesthetic screwing it up and leaving him dead for so long. When I saw how broken Eight was I just wanted to hug him and tell him "it'll be ok" for a good chunk of the movie. Something about that made him one of my favorites, though.

Spoiler for others reading

I really wish they'd clear up the whole "half-human" thing, though. Like I said, all the writers in the new series seem to be happily sweeping it under the rug and pretending it never happened - but the ambiguity is kind of maddening. @_@ Even if they choose to retcon the whole thing, I'd at least like one, quick line referencing that whole failed plotline and stating that that wasn't the case. Just... something.

Season 1 was a bit of a mess, but I liked it. Christopher Eccleston is one of my favorite doctor and so I went along happily. And for the first season since...a decade and a half it did really good. Also, doctor who was back and I was extremely giddy. Looking back at it now I still think it's a very good season overall.Though basically all seasons are good, it was quite better then a couple. Even if rose is the worst companion of the new series :D

Eccleston is still far from my favorite Doctor, but while I really disliked him at first, I will say he grew on me over the years. All the Doctors have something to offer, at least.

And as for Rose, I for one think she's kind of underrated. I mean, "worst companion of the new series"? Well... maybe, but only because we've had so few to choose from so far (at least compared to how many there were in the Classics). Objectively, though, I really don't see what's so wrong with her. The biggest thing about her people seem to criticize is how she loved the Doctor and was so obsessed with him, but... I feel like any fangirl, myself included, would be no better than her in that regard. :I I mean I dunno about you, but I feel like any straight woman/homosexual man has no right to hate Rose for loving the Doctor - because anyone with any attraction to men would feel the same way.

Doctor who rambles are fun

I agree 100%.

I've been feeling like ranting about Doctor Who almost constantly the past few weeks (probably due to binging so much content) so it's nice to have an outlet for it all.

[Neobullseye]

Postness shall come tomorrow, when I have the time to actually think of something decent.

[Rithas]

I hope my post is alright, I'm a bit nervous if I've wrecked up something.

[Kaga]

xcalx1dw said
I hope my post is alright, I'm a bit nervous if I've wrecked up something.

Looks fine to me. o.o

[Neobullseye]

So... Guys? You may or may not have heard, but a Boeing 777 passenger plane crashed near the Ukrainean/Russian border on its way to Malaysia. It was most likely accidentally shot down by pro-Russian separatists, who thought they were aiming at a military transport plane. The death toll: all 283 passengers plus all 15 crew members. totaling at 298 lives lost. Most of said passengers were Dutch (At least 154 of them; At the moment of writing this message, the nationality of 47 victims is still unknown.). I... I'm just really glad that I don't know anyone on that flight.

[Derpestein]

Neobullseye said
So... Guys? You may or may not have heard, but a Boeing 777 passenger plane crashed near the Ukrainean/Russian border on its way to Malaysia. It was most likely accidentally shot down by pro-Russian separatists, who thought they were aiming at a military transport plane. The death toll: all 283 passengers plus all 15 crew members. totaling at 298 lives lost. Most of said passengers were Dutch (154 of them). I... I'm just really glad that I don't know anyone on that flight.

...

Fucking...

Wow.

Just...Wow.

...THIS is why I hate humanity, people. ._.

[Kaga]

Neobullseye said
So... Guys? You may or may not have heard, but a Boeing 777 passenger plane crashed near the Ukrainean/Russian border on its way to Malaysia. It was most likely accidentally shot down by pro-Russian separatists, who thought they were aiming at a military transport plane. The death toll: all 283 passengers plus all 15 crew members. totaling at 298 lives lost. Most of said passengers were Dutch (At least 154 of them; At the moment of writing this message, the nationality of 47 victims is still unknown.). I... I'm just really glad that I don't know anyone on that flight.

I'm sorry to hear that, Neo. I suppose we can be grateful that you didn't personally know anyone on that flight - but it's still tragic.

Also, feel free to post about off-topic things like this in my OOC in the future if you feel the need - or really any time you feel like starting a conversation. I promise you that while I may act like I run a tight ship in my RP's, I do allow my players to use the OOC as a sort of lounge - and I can assure you that no one will act like a dickweed and tell you to shut up on my watch.

Especially not in response to such tragic news.

[Rithas]

It saddens me deeply that the media (at least here) seem more focused on ranting about how "It was the Russian people" Then the fact that many people have lost their lives...

[Neobullseye]

Thanks, Kaga. I mean, I knew that we can pretty much post anything here (going by the fact nobody ever said anything about us using this as a chatroom-like place forthe Football/Soccer World Cup), but still. Thanks.

...You know, I'm just afraid sometimes that things like this might eventually drag the entire world into World War 3. The Netherlands is a NATO country, and any attack against any member of the NATO counts as an attack against all of them. Combined with the already sour relations between Russia and the USA (Which is also a NATO country), and the clues that the Separatist are getting weapons from Russia... Yeah. I mean, deep inside, I know that nobody really wants WW3. However, I also know that humanity is deeply stupid and, for the most part, very nationalistic. To me, it's pretty much a given that WW3 will happen eventually. I just hope that it won't happen in my lifetime, you know?

[Rithas]

I dunno, The Ukraine is definitely the start of something. Or at least the very tense air actually doing something. The silly person in me wants to just blame Russia. But it isn't just that, even if Russia are completely ignoring the fact that the you can't just invade a country for no reason...Something is going to happen, I just hope it isn't something big.

But, it seems that everyone is saying it was an accident. Which I don't think it was, You can't give Missiles to rebels and not for something crazy to happen.

Also, The hell is going on with Israel?!

[Kaga]

Neobullseye said
Thanks, Kaga. I mean, I knew that we can pretty much post anything here (going by the fact nobody ever said anything about us using this as a chatroom-like place forthe Football/Soccer World Cup), but still. Thanks....You know, I'm just afraid sometimes that things like this might eventually drag the entire world into World War 3. The Netherlands is a NATO country, and any attack against any member of the NATO counts as an attack against all of them. Combined with the already sour relations between Russia and the USA (Which is also a NATO country), and the clues that the Separatist are getting weapons from Russia... Yeah. I mean, deep inside, I know that nobody really wants WW3. However, I also know that humanity is deeply stupid and, for the most part, very nationalistic. To me, it's pretty much a given that WW3 will happen eventually. I just hope that it won't happen in my lifetime, you know?

Yeah, I know that feel. I suppose all we can do is hope things smooth over... I mean, if WW3 happens then it'll happen regardless of whether or not we worry. And if it doesn't, then we're stressing ourselves out for no reason.

Hence why I kind of just try to ignore such thoughts...

xcalx1dw said
Also, The hell is going on with Israel?!

What the hell isn't going on with Israel? Hasn't it been a hotbed of activity since like... always?

[Neobullseye]

Kaga said
Yeah, I know that feel. I suppose all we can do is hope things smooth over... I mean, if WW3 happens then it'll happen regardless of whether or not we worry. And if it doesn't, then we're stressing ourselves out for no reason.Hence why I kind of just try to ignore such thoughts...

I tend to try that too. For the most part in wars that don't directly affect me (I.E. All of them), my general opinion is that both sides are idiots for being unable to even try to listen to eachother. I just feel sorry for the general population that gets abused in the process -- and, in this case, the almost 300 civilian deaths that didn't even had anything to do with the conflict in the first place. The thing is, I can't help but think of what could happen next in situations like these. A random conflict in the Middle East? Meh, what's new; those tend to stay relatively local anyway. Russia and Europe/USA in what's essentially a new Cold War? That can only end badly.

What the hell going on with Israel? Hasn't it been a hotbed of activity since like... always?

Partially true. Before Israel was named Israel, jews, christians and muslims all lived in general peace right next to each other. It was not until the West came along and mucked everything up, along with tons of European Jews immigrating towards 'Israel' that this started to go south. I'm assuming Cal is talking about Israël invading the Gaza Strip with ground forces though, which hasn't happened in quite a while. Like I said before, I just feel sorry for whoever is born in that hellhole (including both sides, but especially Gaza.) This is also why I really don't want Israel to join the NATO. According to the NATO rules, this would allow them to demand that most of the Western world choose their side in the ongoing conflict, something which can only cause problems.

Also, a couple of updates on the plane crash victims:
- 20 Unknown
- 173 Dutch
- 44 Malaysians
- 27 Australians
- 12 Indonesians
- 9 Brits
- 4 Germans
- 4 Belgians
- 3 Phillipines
- 1 Canadese
- 1 New-Zealander
Amongst the victims are also three very young children, possibly even infants (the cause of an early irregularity in the death toll, seeing as they didn't have their own seats).

It is unknown if anyone on the ground got hit by the random shrapnel or anything like that.

[Kaga]

Neobullseye said
I tend to try that too. For the most part in wars that don't directly affect me (I.E. All of them), my general opinion is that both sides are idiots for being unable to even try to listen to eachother. I just feel sorry for the general population that gets abused in the process -- and, in this case, the almost 300 civilian deaths that didn't even had anything to do with the conflict in the first place. The thing is, I can't help but think of what could happen next in situations like these. A random conflict in the Middle East? Meh, what's new; those tend to stay relatively local anyway. Russia and Europe/USA in what's essentially a new Cold War? That can only end badly.

Cold War I, Cold War II... I don't like the sound of those. :<

[nautilusmp]

Explaining the reality of the occupation of Palestinian soil from scratch is never easy, especially as I have to keep concentrating and staying cautious when phrasing my sentences. Unlearning what one wrongly believes about it will be much, much harder, although I haven't been in that situation.