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My understanding of it is that they also have your middle school and high school.But High School ends at Grade 10 or 11 depending on where in Japan you live (I believe England in similliar there, but they can also end in Grade 12 in some (but few) areas. Plus, both countries have mandatory uniforms... >.<).And students also take tests among joining to the school, being divided into classes depending on academic performance.How close was I?


You probably understand it better than I do.

As a Canadian, my understanding was that it's because Kidnergarten was/is largely seen as daycare/childcare, not a place for children to really sit down and do academic work. All the academic stuff wouldn't really start until Grade 1, hence the name difference.Yet, oddly enough professions like ECE (Early Childhood Education) will claim that it's already too academically focused, and needs to adopt a more 'play to learn' approach.To which I assume Kindergarten varies a ton depending on the school and the teacher, because I remember far more playing and being silly in it than I do school work as a kid.And today when I'm in a Kindergarten room as a placement student they really do spend the whole day playing, with minimal time set aside of sitting children done and directly teaching them something in an academic manner.


o.o No... Kindergarten here (at least as I remember it) was a bit more than just daycare. While there was quite a bit of playtime (I mean, you're dealing with 5-year-olds), I also remember learning the basics of how to read and write in kindergarten. Plus, I think it's supposed to warm kids up to the idea of what it's like to be in a school environment (you know, lots of other kids around, one adult who's in charge, etc...).

So yeah, there's kind of an important first step happening there. It's not just a place for parents to drop their kids off during the day.

I do admit, as a Canadian the whole common core thing exploding in America has confused me as well.I don't even know what the issue is, or what common core is really trying to do.I assume by the name of core that it's trying to reinforce a "One size fits all" approach? But I've seen nothing either confirming or dismissing that so far.


No, it's basically a new set of standards that politicians are trying to force onto schools, making kids learn English, math and science "better" and "faster".

The reason why there's such an uproar about it is because politicians don't understand how education works and they're forcing standards onto students faster than the teachers can re-work their entire system to keep up. Not to mention, this also worsens an already very broken education system for more complicated reasons...

Boy am I glad I managed to graduate high school just as all that was starting, so I didn't have to suffer through much of it.
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Kaga said o.o No... Kindergarten here (at least as I remember it) a bit more than just daycare. While there was quite a bit of playtime (I mean, you're dealing with 5-year-olds), I also remember learning the basics of how to read and write in kindergarten. Plus, I think it's supposed to warm kids up to the idea of what it's like to be in a school environment (you know, lots of other kids around, one adult who's in charge, etc...).

So yeah, there's kind of an important first step happening there. It's not just a place for parents to drop their kids off during the day.


That's what the "minimal time set aside of sitting children done and directly teaching them something in an academic manner" part was referring to. They take about 30 minutes - 1 hour (total) a day to try to teach basic math and english to children, at least in a way they sit the child down and have them work on it. Anything else is the teachers either 'hoping' that the student will find a toy that they can connect to math and english, or changing the toys available to such an extent that everything available connects to it.

Now, go to most Canadian ECE's and they've try to sugar-coat it with stuff such as "We scaffold the child, letting them learn when they want to, and when they're engaged etc." which is true, but it also means a lot of their learning is luck of the draw because so little time is spent running actual lessons. While Grade 1 and up is far more "Children sit for a number of hours and are given lectures and worksheets" sort of learning going on.

Kaga said No, it's basically a new set of standards that politicians are trying to force onto schools, making kids learn English, math and science "better" and "faster".The reason why there's such an uproar about it is because and they're forcing standards onto students faster than the teachers can re-work their entire system to keep up. Not to mention, this also worsens an already very broken education system for more complicated reasons... Boy am I glad I managed to graduate high school as all that was starting, so I didn't have to suffer through much of it.


Ah I see.
They're trying to rush learning even though tons of students struggle greatly in school as it is. :/

That's even worse than them trying to push in another "One size fits all" method.
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Oh trust me it SUCKS and I have to deal with it for another four years. Seriously the past quarter and a half I've known what the heck we're doing and then even now I still know what we're doing and WE'RE DOING ALGEBRA!!! The stupid Politicains are trying to make us smarter but all they're doing is making us dumber. Jesus they've made SIMPLE ADDING AND SUBTRACTING HARDER SO NOW YOU HAVE LIKE TWENTY STEPS TO DO BEFORE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT THE FREAKING PROBLEM!
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Algebra was always common for Grade 8's though... :/
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WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!
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WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!


...For what?
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WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!


OH SHIT!

*ducks*

What am I ducking for?
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That last post seems more appropriate for me to let the others respond to first rather than me.
But god damn it Kaga! XD

You're whole "Girls, do these boobs seem right" bit almost had me laughing like a maniac in the middle of my college cafeteria.
Thankfully, I managed to control myself so no one ended up asking "What's so funny". Cause then I would had to reply "Boob humor".

Now I feel like I'm a little kid just hearing the word 'boobs' for the first time...
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That last post seems more appropriate for me to let the others respond to first rather than me.But god damn it Kaga! XDYou're whole "Girls, do these boobs seem right" bit almost had me laughing like a maniac in the middle of my college cafeteria.Thankfully, I managed to control myself so no one ended up asking "What's so funny". Cause then I would had to reply "Boob humor". Now I feel like I'm a little kid just hearing the word 'boobs' for the first time...


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I just saw the post a few minutes ago and my laughter is still going. Maybe because it's midnight and I'm hyped up in sugar? Eh I don't know all I know is that I'm still laughing.
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that's hilarious Kaga :)
i'll post later
unfortunately i really don't have time right now
sorry
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I feel like I should make a post but then I'm waiting for Kaga to post..THE CONFLICTING IDEAS ARE WORSE THAN THE FEELS!!!
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I feel like I should make a post but then I'm waiting for Kaga to post..THE CONFLICTING IDEAS ARE WORSE THAN THE FEELS!!!


Following turn order is generally the best idea... And I'm pretty sure you're still waiting on me.
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AAAAAAAH I JUST NOTICED THE CRAZIEST THING!!!



Edit: ADDITIONALLY,



On an unrelated note, sorry I haven't posted for GM yet despite clearly having the time to post in general. My muse has been elsewhere (no pun intended).
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It's possible.

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Spoiler tags! Books is behind!!

Anywho,
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...Leon is so screwed now >_>. Now to consider the options. Does he try to explain that he made a backup? Will he simply try to Alt-Tab the menu away, even though it's way too late? Or will Leon freak out and accidentally press the Summon/Test/Run/Whatever-it-was-called-again Button? Choices, choices...

Also, I should've managed to put out a post earlier today. Merk... Ah well, I'll put one out tomorrow then, first thing that evening.
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Spoiler tags! Books is behind!! Anywho,


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I'm behind because I don't have the attention span for Doctor Who right now. I've seen to many spoilers as of recently that I basically know what all happens...
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booksmusicanime said
I'm behind because I don't have the attention span for Doctor Who right now. I've seen to many spoilers as of recently that I basically know what all happens...


I wouldn't assume anything if I were you! Just because you've seen lots of spoilers doesn't mean you've seen everything... lots of times people think they know everything that'll happen, but really the only spoilers they came across were the tip of the iceberg! You don't know what you know or don't know.

At any rate, I still think a lot of the episodes in the season are worth watching. Eventually.
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