[OOC] Titans!

[YoshiSkittlez]

Then I guess we'll leave it up to Scorpion and Ricochet?

[Dblade26]

DeathstrokeSW said
He isn't Owlboy....yet.

Honestly I don't see him becoming very much of anything. There's no way any of us would trust him to be on the Titans given who he's obviously affiliated with and what he's already done regardless of the fact that he disarmed himself at the end of it or whatever. Especially Nightwing. We'd...kind of all have to spontaneously become idiots for Talon's plan to work unless I'm really missing some big details. Furthermore almost everyone involved including Nightwing's player and I think even the GM have said they have no idea how Talon infiltrating the Titans is going to work, sometimes multiple times. I don't want to leave this RP and I don't want to cause a problem but I would have to completely ignore your character and everything they do or else massively break Iron Fist's entire characterization in order for your plan to work like you seem to think it will. I personally don't think it would be very interesting or fun for us to bend our characters over backwards just to accommodate this ridiculous idea you're fixated on.

Before you ask me what bending over backwards means, it means forcing us all to do things in a way we normally wouldn't have.

YoshiSkittlez said
Then I guess we'll leave it up to Scorpion and Ricochet?

Sure, that seems fine. Although I might have him go looking for Amy shortly afterwards anyways just so Rin has an easy way into the RP

[YoshiSkittlez]

The only thing I can think of for him to be accepted into the Titans is if time and time again he proves loyalty to them, but that would take time and a few arcs. You might just have to plan on him being a villain for a while until certain opportunities come up that tests his allegiance.

Also it might help his chances if he decided to wear something different when entering the Titans Tower. Something without affiliation. Edits happen, I had to change Rose's uniform to fit the particular situation.

[Dblade26]

multiple people have mentioned all of this and more at least once before, and the fact that Talon's apparently meant to be a spy for the Court of Owls rather than legitimately being a part of the Teen Titans, at least to begin with, makes the long and time consuming "prove his loyalty" based route pretty impossible seeming.

[YoshiSkittlez]

Hince why I think a change of uniform should be in order, so the Titans don't know right off the back that he's associated with the owls.

[Dblade26]

Whatever. The way this whole subplot's been handled is just kind of slightly irritating to me and I may not be the best judge for it. Sorry.

Sneaking in to a place that he wasn't authorized to be in and that should have had security good enough to stop him presents a problem too if you want to look at more than one of the ways his plan for the character was flawed. At least Taskmaster was there on invitation.

[YoshiSkittlez]

I agree, that part was a bit...off...but I do believe it was agreed to just pass that over. In my mind I'd like to think that since Cyborg isn't at the tower, certain things just started to malfunction, probably the security system too lol i dunno that was the only thing I could think of to make it even somewhat justifiable.

[Dblade26]

Sorry, it just seems to me that rather than just the costume the whole way things with Talon wound up going kind of didn't work well at all despite people's best efforts and intentions and a lot of this was previously mentioned both by me and by a few other people at the time with DSW just disregarding it or not noticing it. In any case I don't think things with Talon will work out very smoothly as they are now, at least not in a way that doesn't involve him escaping and being a villain for a while or something like that. A lot of it would just need too much justification or out-of-character behavior.

[DeathstrokeSW]

Damn. First, I feel like an idiot. I went head first into a character with long term plans without thinking of short term consequences, or other characters. Maybe I should scrap Thomas and just rewrite him as being where I wanted him to be a while from now.

[Dblade26]

DeathstrokeSW said
Damn. First, I feel like an idiot. I went head first into a character with long term plans without thinking of short term consequences, or other characters. Maybe I should scrap Thomas and just rewrite him as being where I wanted him to be a while from now.

Sorry, didn't say all that to hurt your feelings, more just because I felt like there were a lot of problems that weren't being addressed that could make the RP hard for some people to play, or for that matter hard for you to play if things kept getting complicated. Do you mind if I ask where you were planning on him being a while from now and maybe see if I can help you make that work?

You could always have him just escape and try and work something out from there, since otherwise there might be a lot of posts to retcon.

[YoshiSkittlez]

DSW, we're not trying to make you feel like an idiot, we just want this RP to run smoothly for everyone and not have to overlook details. What I suggest is that you contact GM and have the two of you hash out something that works a bit better. Essentially I like the idea of your character, just how it was introduced and brought about isn't quite working. Please take this all as constructive criticism.

Or just post your ideas here. We all really want this to work out, and as DBlade says we would like to help you.

[Dblade26]

Yeah, I realize some of the things I said were probably harsh, but I meant them purely as an attempt to help the RP run more smoothly for everyone. Maybe you can come up with an idea that can be executed better.

[DeathstrokeSW]

Well, I'm going to PM the two of you what my plans were and see what we can work.

[Dblade26]

You should probably PM the GM as Titansgame too even if you PM us, since whatever you come up with would have to be approved that way anyways.

[DeathstrokeSW]

Ok. Nightrunner's the actual GM, but I'll PM him too.

[Dblade26]

Titansgame is a seperate account Nightrunner uses for this game sometimes. you could PM Nightrunner directly too I suppose.

[Mr_pink]

Does anyone know where Dead Cruiser is? Or can someone else come help my character?

[DeathstrokeSW]

How do you add multiple participants to a pm?

[Dblade26]

Where it says participants on a new PM, you add in the first username, then the second username, then the third username, separated by commas.

[DeathstrokeSW]

PM sent.