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Why don't you call him?


We've lozt contact.
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In order to acheive the goal they've set forth, the thing they do care about, they have to have some level of care, "good" or "bad", for the obstacles that prevent them reaching it.


Allow me to present an analogy on why I believe that isn't the case. A computer, for instance, cannot think, reason, know, or care. It may have a goal and a set of instructions that are "through any means necessary, fulfil this goal." Or even if it were just "Fulfil this goal," it will likely not extrapolate any parameters for that. It does not care about the means at all, solely that it reaches an end.
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We've lozt contact.


How did that happen?
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How did that happen?


We don't know.
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We don't know.


Well that stinks.
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Well that stinks.


I believe that our oldest is attempting to search for him. She may come here as well, her name is Rilee.
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I believe that our oldest is attempting to search for him. She may come here as well, her name is Rilee.


Does she look similar too?
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Allow me to present an analogy on why I believe that isn't the case. A computer, for instance, cannot think, reason, know, or care. It may have a goal and a set of instructions that are "through any means necessary, fulfil this goal." Or even if it were just "Fulfil this goal," it will likely not extrapolate any parameters for that. It does not care about the means at all, solely that it reaches an end.


The simple fact is that people aren't computers though. They care about the end enough that, by nature, they will have some level of care for the things that stand in their way. You can't compare people to computers because there is an entire array of traits that sets them apart. If you are fighting a computer, though, like our friend Kat here, then maybe you'd be right.
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The simple fact is that people aren't computers though. They care about the end enough that, by nature, they will have some level of care for the things that stand in their way. You can't compare people to computers because there is an entire array of traits that sets them apart. If you are fighting a computer, though, like our friend Kat here, then maybe you'd be right.


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The simple fact is that people aren't computers though. They care about the end enough that, by nature, they will have some level of care for the things that stand in their way. You can't compare people to computers because there is an entire array of traits that sets them apart. If you are fighting a computer, though, like our friend Kat here, then maybe you'd be right.


Your argument is flawed because you begin with the assumption that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles in order to prove that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles.
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Your argument is flawed because you begin with the assumption that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles in order to prove that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles.


True apathy would involve no care for the goal, which would mean they wouldn't really have a desire to achieve the goal and, therefore, no true goal in the first place. Caring for the goal means there is no apathy, and that's where the care for obstacles comes from.
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True apathy would involve no care for the goal, which would mean they wouldn't really have a desire to achieve the goal and, therefore, no true goal in the first place. Caring for the goal means there is no apathy, and that's where the care for obstacles comes from.


I made it clear before that care for the goal and care for the obstacles are independent.
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Does she look similar too?


We all look nearly exactly alike.
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We all look nearly exactly alike.


Including your brother?
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Including your brother?


No. He looks different. He looks more like our father and has our father's hair color. Black.
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No. He looks different. He looks more like our father and has our father's hair color. Black.


That's very different from pink.
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That's very different from pink.


It is.
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It is.
*looks around then remembers*
Yes. I came here for a reason.


That reason being?
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I made it clear before that care for the goal and care for the obstacles are independent.


Always? Every time?
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Always? Every time?


No? It was also made clear that this is a situation where they are.
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