[IC] Myriad Reality

[Legend]

@Legend

Art can also be consistently objectively defined, even if definitions differ. I could define art as 'something which the creator intended to convey meaning through methods besides language', or 'objects which evoke emotions which would be identified by the one experiencing it as 'awe' or 'admiration' or 'melancholy'.'. Art could also be prescriptive: 'Art is the result of dancing, singing, painting or sculpting, and nothing else'.

None of these definitions are any more or less subjective than 'evil is performing an unwanted action on an unwilling participant' or 'evil is the termination of a living organism for whatever reason' or 'evil is the character of actions which reduce the overall utility of Creation.'.

Of course, this is all assuming that we mean the same thing when we say 'objective' or 'subjective' an assumption which I am sure, just like with the words art or evil, is incorrect. I am sure, of course, that you have a very useful definition for the words 'soul' and 'evil', that goes without saying. It might be more fruitful to ask, "What has she done after her inception, to evidence the assertion that she's evil. And why is she trying to kill you all?"

@PentagonWhite

Those are very vague and cannot be measured, and even your hypothetical definition of evil, though I disagree with it, is more clearly defined than your hypothetical definitions of art. Kirina wants to kill us because we are a threat.

[PentagonWhite]

@Legend

I'm afraid the only response I can give to your objection is "You're obviously wrong". I don't know how to make myself any more clear than 'there is no substantive difference between 'evil is taxes' and 'art is dancing'': I'll try again when I understand you better.

Or not. I don't think it's going to be useful if we keep talking about language: I'm beginning to think our differences are too great to easily reconcile.

Anyways: is there anything I can do to be useful? I'm ready to believe that it's this Kirina who tried to kill everyone here, and so I figure this is as good a reason as any to invoke the exception to my Pilgrimage.

[Legend]

@Legend

I'm afraid the only response I can give to your objection is "You're obviously wrong". I don't know how to make myself any more clear than 'there is no substantive difference between 'evil is taxes' and 'art is dancing'': I'll try again when I understand you better.

Or not. I don't think it's going to be useful if we keep talking about language: I'm beginning to think our differences are too great to easily reconcile.

Anyways: is there anything I can do to be useful? I'm ready to believe that it's this Kirina who tried to kill everyone here, and so I figure this is as good a reason as any to invoke the exception to my Pilgrimage.

@PentagonWhite

If you are unaware of the concept of a darksoul, then you are both objectively incorrect and choosing ignorance over understanding. As for Kirina, the only course of action is to wait.

[PentagonWhite]

@Legend

*Frustration is visible at the first sentence, a light twisting of lips and narrowing of eyes, a dimming by a shade of the smile, but it returns to normal quick enough, either pride or indignation or a sharp response swallowed.*

Well, then wait I'll simply have to do. You'll forgive me if I don't return to my ship immediately: philotic influences might get picked up by her, and I'd rather not invite her to blot my ship from orbit. It's not the most sturdy of vessels, and vacuum is so very dull.

[Legend]

@Legend

*Frustration is visible at the first sentence, a light twisting of lips and narrowing of eyes, a dimming by a shade of the smile, but it returns to normal quick enough, either pride or indignation or a sharp response swallowed.*

Well, then wait I'll simply have to do. You'll forgive me if I don't return to my ship immediately: philotic influences might get picked up by her, and I'd rather not invite her to blot my ship from orbit. It's not the most sturdy of vessels, and vacuum is so very dull.

@PentagonWhite

*Smirks slighly*
Of course. Spend as much time here as you would like.

[PentagonWhite]

@Legend

Much obliged. I'll stay until there's no threat of my property getting atomized, at the very least. Beyond that, well, I'd hate to impose. You seem like a tight-knit group, I won't spoil the dynamic.

[Legend]

@Legend

Much obliged. I'll stay until there's no threat of my property getting atomized, at the very least. Beyond that, well, I'd hate to impose. You seem like a tight-knit group, I won't spoil the dynamic.

@PentagonWhite

It is far too eventful to maintain a dynamic.

[souleaterfan320]

@PentagonWhite
Drake:
*Finishes my cigar*

Ah, hello sorry for ignoring you, busy day. But yeah, Kirina isn't one you'd want to mess with. She ripped control of 75% of the GIA from me, an impressive army that I once lead. Now? The remaining 25% have fled along with me, and she took control, renaming it the CA.

*sighs*
Went of topic there for a moment, but the point is, shes here, she wants to kill us all.

*looks to data*

Also, he can be a handful, hes all charts and, well, data. No sort of anything nonfactual, so he probably wouldn't be able to give you a definition for anyhting you'd need not based on facts and charts.

[Legend]

@PentagonWhite
Drake:
*Finishes my cigar*

Ah, hello sorry for ignoring you, busy day. But yeah, Kirina isn't one you'd want to mess with. She ripped control of 75% of the GIA from me, an impressive army that I once lead. Now? The remaining 25% have fled along with me, and she took control, renaming it the CA.

*sighs*
Went of topic there for a moment, but the point is, shes here, she wants to kill us all.

*looks to data*

Also, he can be a handful, hes all charts and, well, data. No sort of anything nonfactual, so he probably wouldn't be able to give you a definition for anyhting you'd need not based on facts and charts.

@souleaterfan320

Granted.

[PentagonWhite]

@souleaterfan320

I think you're not giving him enough credit. Scripture declares that it is the responsibility of the scientist, the data-collector and the chart-maker to measure what is measurable and make measurable what is not so. Of course, you know him better than I do.

Regardless. There's no need for apologies, of course: I've been nothing but intrusive. I'm sorry for your loss, of course: I'm sure you'll get the rest back. And you've got my support in not getting killed, though apparently that is worth very little. Murder is a sin, after all.

[Legend]

@souleaterfan320

I think you're not giving him enough credit. Scripture declares that it is the responsibility of the scientist, the data-collector and the chart-maker to measure what is measurable and make measurable what is not so. Of course, you know him better than I do.

Regardless. There's no need for apologies, of course: I've been nothing but intrusive. I'm sorry for your loss, of course: I'm sure you'll get the rest back. And you've got my support in not getting killed, though apparently that is worth very little. Murder is a sin, after all.

@PentagonWhite

*Nods*
It is quite the taboo.

[Stabby]

@Legend

Much obliged. I'll stay until there's no threat of my property getting atomized, at the very least. Beyond that, well, I'd hate to impose. You seem like a tight-knit group, I won't spoil the dynamic.

@PentagonWhite

I'm not really a part of "this" group right now, but my friend is and as such I will assist them. At a later point I might actually know more of these people well enough to say i am.

[souleaterfan320]

@PentagonWhite

Drake: oh, I know sin. Been there, done that. I'm only helping these people because I've got no other choice. I'd like to stay alive. You'd think that being a Leviathan such as myself would give you some sort of prestige among these people, but I had underestimated them. They are much, much stronger than one would think. Otherwise, I would have already obliterated one among their ranks.

[souleaterfan320]

@Etcetera
Damnit...

*falls to my knees, weak*

I might actually lose to you, techi... a fool like you is going to defeat the likes of me... just the thought, it's... DISGUSTING...

[Etcetera]

@Etcetera
Damnit...

*falls to my knees, weak*

I might actually lose to you, techi... a fool like you is going to defeat the likes of me... just the thought, it's... DISGUSTING...

@souleaterfan320

It's pretty cool, right?
*Enters it and begins collapsing it in on itself*

[PentagonWhite]

@souleaterfan320

I'll bear that in mind. Seeing as you're not a mythical space-whale, I'm not entirely sure what a Leviathan is, but it certainly sounds grand. I had suspected present company were formidable, exceptional people tend to congeal, in my experience. I'm glad to have my suspicions validated: I'll do my best to not lower the 'strength' quota too much, for as long as I remain.

[souleaterfan320]

@Etcetera
.... no... I won't let this happen.... I REFUSE.

*my power skyrockets beyond what it already was, nearly tripling it. I slowly rise, and my arm raises, my hand grasping what appears to be thin air, but suddenly, the universe itself shakes, as its energy forms into a ball half as large as the universe itself.*

If this is how its got to be, then I'll gladly end everything. Right here, right now.

[Etcetera]

@Etcetera
.... no... I won't let this happen.... I REFUSE.

*my power skyrockets beyond what it already was, nearly tripling it. I slowly rise, and my arm raises, my hand grasping what appears to be thin air, but suddenly, the universe itself shakes, as its energy forms into a ball half as large as the universe itself.*

If this is how its got to be, then I'll gladly end everything. Right here, right now.

@souleaterfan320

*Forms into a physical state and stands up, looking directly into your eyes*
My name is Technology Demonstration, Guardian of Electricity, and more importantly, Guardian of Old. I can't let you do that, because this universe is under my protection.
*Holds out both hands, and it stabilizes once more*
Today is not the apocalypse.
*Several concentrated red bolts shoot into you while your focus is diverted, tearing away at you*

[souleaterfan320]

@PentagonWhite
Drake: what you see here is some of the most powerful beings in all of Existence. I am probably among the weakest ones here, as it currently stands. I can offer little to no help to aid them, even if I wanted to. I despise most of them here, but I'm starting to, uh... whats the word? Oh yeah. 'Bear' them.

[souleaterfan320]

@Etcetera
*tentrils from the ball jet out at high speeds, stopping the energy dead in its tracks*

You... you think you can save everyone from what's coming... you think that you can just waltz up to me, and stop me from ending it all... you think that just because you stop me that it'll go back to normal after I'm gone..

*the ball starts rushing towards us, engulfing whole galaxies as it makes its way towards us*

But that's just not how things are. You hero types always think you can save everyone, or at the very least save a few people. But you're WRONG! NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMEONE OR SOMETHING THAT CAN END YOU WILL COME ALONG AND TEAR APART EVERYTHING YOU'VE WORKED SO DAMN HARD TO PROTECT! FRIENDS, FAMILY, EVERYTHING, JUST GONE!

*the ball picks up speed*

And the worst part is, even if you manage to survive. Even if you stave off what seems to be your end, it never stops. That's why I'm doing this. No more heroes, no more villains, everything will die, sieze to exist. Starting with you, and everyone in this group of yours.