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Literally everywhere I've read anything about Broly has said he is non-canon.


A quick google search reveals... dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Broly
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I see. What are you allergic to? For me it's dust (severe), basically anything with fur, peanuts and any products (death-severe), and mild to other nuts.


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I'll just sum it up by saying SSJ3 Goku couldn't beat Buu, but Vegeto (Close enough to Gogeta. Give me a break) could. Everything I've read says Broly is canon, and I can talk about movies because they're canon. What you've watched doesn't change the fact.


Goku said he was only toying with Buu because he wanted (Can't remember if it was Gotenks or Gohan at the time) to be the hero. The second time he said it, he said that he was simply too exhausted. Had he been at full strength, he could have won. Meh about Broly. And I never meant that you can't talk about the movies, I just mean I can't really discuss them in any form myself since I haven't seen them.
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Goku said he was only toying with Buu because he wanted (Can't remember if it was Gotenks or Gohan at the time) to be the hero. The second time he said it, he said that he was simply too exhausted. Had he been at full strength, he could have won. Meh about Broly. And I never meant that you can't talk about the movies, I just mean I can't really discuss them in any form myself since I haven't seen them.


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A quick google search reveals... dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Broly


At the same time, I just two seconds ago read something that said he is non-canon, since he isn't in the manga written by the creator.
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At the same time, I just two seconds ago read something that said he is non-canon, since he isn't in the manga written by the creator.


Implying a fictional universe can only have one true source of canon.
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I'm back.

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Worst visit ever.
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Source?


I'll go find the episodes when I have the time and get back to you on that. Not in the mood to look right now.
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I'm back.

Monday decided to stop by my life.

Worst visit ever.


I see. Any chance you could respond to the Ma'at/David stuff first?
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Implying a fictional universe can only have one true source of canon.


... But it can?... When it comes to DBZ, from what I've gathered, the manga is the ultimate determining factor aside from the word of the creator himself.
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... But it can?... When it comes to DBZ, from what I've gathered, the manga is the ultimate determining factor aside from the word of the creator himself.


Oh. I see. Well, I don't know much about DBZ. I'm just logicing based on the limited understanding I have.
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... But it can?... When it comes to DBZ, from what I've gathered, the manga is the ultimate determining factor aside from the word of the creator himself.


The creators can be wrong. It's rare, but it happens. But they do generally decide canon.
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Oh. I see. Well, I don't know much about DBZ. I'm just logicing based on the limited understanding I have.


Unless something else says otherwise, that's what I have come to gather. For your sake, I wouldn't be taking my word on that to be 100% true. It's just based off what I've seen.
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The creators can be wrong. It's rare, but it happens. But they do generally decide canon.


Yeah, you're right.
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I see. Any chance you could respond to the Ma'at/David stuff first?


Well, I can tonight, but I am currently reaaaaalllly behind on a tox-saya post. I'm having troubles finding the perfect picture for what they will find on Stygia's surface.

I'll reply soon tho.
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Unless something else says otherwise, that's what I have come to gather. For your sake, I wouldn't be taking my word on that to be 100% true. It's just based off what I've seen.


"Dragon Ball is a manga with an anime that's based on it. Broly isn't in the manga. The movies are products of the animation company and usually have nothing to do with the author outside of character design, and with the exception of Battle of Gods, are never part of the official storyline." -A commenter on a Reddit post.

"The term canon, with respect to works of fiction, refers to the overall set of story lines, premises, settings, and characters offered by the source media text. Secondly, it is used as a descriptor of specific incidents, relationships, or story arcs that take place within the overall canon. Thus, all officially released Dragon Ball media falls within the definition of the term canon. Despite the literal meaning, certain fans maintain their own unique definitions of canon, sometimes excluding games, movies, and/or the anime series (Dragon Ball GT in particular, of the anime series)." -The wiki.

According to the wiki, the manga is the highest authoritative source of canon. Anime is second, and everything else is third. I would assume that because of this, anything that contradicts the manga is non-canon, but it also states that the manga and anime constantly contradict each other and themselves, so it's probably really hard to say what's canon and not.
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"Dragon Ball is a manga with an anime that's based on it. Broly isn't in the manga. The movies are products of the animation company and usually have nothing to do with the author outside of character design, and with the exception of Battle of Gods, are never part of the official storyline." -A commenter on a Reddit post.

"The term canon, with respect to works of fiction, refers to the overall set of story lines, premises, settings, and characters offered by the source media text. Secondly, it is used as a descriptor of specific incidents, relationships, or story arcs that take place within the overall canon. Thus, all officially released Dragon Ball media falls within the definition of the term canon. Despite the literal meaning, certain fans maintain their own unique definitions of canon, sometimes excluding games, movies, and/or the anime series (Dragon Ball GT in particular, of the anime series)." -The wiki.

According to the wiki, the manga is the highest authoritative source of canon. Anime is second, and everything else is third. I would assume that because of this, anything that contradicts the manga is non-canon, but it also states that the manga and anime constantly contradict each other and themselves, so it's probably really hard to say what's canon and not.


Never read the manga, but knowing the show, that makes sense to me, hehe.
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Mordric is the pure unadulterated, unabridged definition of evil.
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Mordric is the pure unadulterated, unabridged definition of evil.


Pinkamena is better at torturing. Dark is better at evil. =P
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Pinkamena is better at torturing. Dark is better at evil. =P


Debatable.
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