[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Balance]

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That's still dumb, because it implies that we have to be able to understand them for them to exist.
I'm too scatterbrained to give a good point on this right now.

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Eh. Like I said, too scattered right now to think about it.

@DarkwolfX37

I get your point with the whole "understand them" thing. I toy with the concept of a universe which has laws which are completely unfathomable to our brain. One of the future snippets for one of my stories, for example, will have one of my divine characters transitioning the now completely learned universe into a universe with new concepts which can't possibly exist in our currently limited comprehension. I also believe that in Heaven, God will create places or even universes which work in ways beyond our current comprehension, for all the scientists up there.

[DarkwolfX37]

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If it exists, it can be understood. Your argument is argument by ignorance, which doesn't work.

@Dynamics

No I mean by us in our irl isolated universe with no starting point of another to work from. Like if we literally us can't currently understand them because of our lack of grasp of how universes can be balanced or lack of shared imaginations about it then they couldn't exist in MR sorta thing.
Sorry is that any clearer or did I mess up?

[DarkwolfX37]

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I get your point with the whole "understand them" thing. I toy with the concept of a universe which has laws which are completely unfathomable to our brain. One of the future snippets for one of my stories, for example, will have one of my divine characters transitioning the now completely learned universe into a universe with new concepts which can't possibly exist in our currently limited comprehension. I also believe that in Heaven, God will create places or even universes which work in ways beyond our current comprehension, for all the scientists up there.

@Balance

Also this david.

[Dynamics]

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No I mean by us in our irl isolated universe with no starting point of another to work from. Like if we literally us can't currently understand them because of our lack of grasp of how universes can be balanced or lack of shared imaginations about it then they couldn't exist in MR sorta thing.
Sorry is that any clearer or did I mess up?

@DarkwolfX37

Except we very well can grasp how our own universe functions. You'd have to violate laws of logic and the autonomy of reason, which can only lead to the collapse of Existence, or at the very very least make our universe an anomaly, leading to a world of chaos and uncertainty where our characters couldn't even be communing. It would have to be on a different Scale for a significant number of universes with different physics to exist.

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Also this david.

@DarkwolfX37

What about it?

[Balance]

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Except we very well can grasp how our own universe functions. You'd have to violate laws of logic and the autonomy of reason, which can only lead to the collapse of Existence, or at the very very least make our universe an anomaly, leading to a world of chaos and uncertainty where our characters couldn't even be communing. It would have to be on a different Scale for a significant number of universes with different physics to exist.

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What about it?

@Dynamics

This is my main objection to the whole "lots of universes with different alternate physics", yeah. Since all of Existence is one big place, it seems logical that it all must abide by the same logic. Otherwise, parts of Existence will have to become incompatible with the rest of Existence, because otherwise, things will break. Get a whole universe with totally different logic, and lots of bad things will happen.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Except we very well can grasp how our own universe functions. You'd have to violate laws of logic and the autonomy of reason, which can only lead to the collapse of Existence, or at the very very least make our universe an anomaly, leading to a world of chaos and uncertainty where our characters couldn't even be communing. It would have to be on a different Scale for a significant number of universes with different physics to exist.

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What about it?

@Dynamics

Also it in that also it.

No because Existence corrects for transmit and because pretty much every character to be on screen either is from one similar to ours or is used to ones similar to ours for ease of us as writers. Like how people write stories in locations they're used to or in cultures they're used to unless it's meant to be foreign.
Ours and similar to ours are, relatively speaking cause infinity and all, a tiny fraction of the sets of physics there are, we just don't show them and most characters are from them.
We could even go back to something you did a while back trying to say there are other groups similar that either handle other problems or get beaten to it by us, we're the group of similar to our universe physics.

Logic leads to rain gods(TM) and only applies to in our universe so dealing with others means "laws of logic" don't really apply anyway. It's like running multiple OSs on a comp, it doesn't make the comp fail so long as you know what you're doing. And remember that universes that "fail" are just as common as ones that "succeed," you can't really have anomalies when dealing with the setup we have for dimensions. The whole point is that every possible one is repeated ad infinitum, and with everything being infinite and infinity not surpassing itself, there can't be more or less of something than another.

[DarkwolfX37]

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This is my main objection to the whole "lots of universes with different alternate physics", yeah. Since all of Existence is one big place, it seems logical that it all must abide by the same logic. Otherwise, parts of Existence will have to become incompatible with the rest of Existence, because otherwise, things will break. Get a whole universe with totally different logic, and lots of bad things will happen.

@Balance

Everything is made of the same meta/hyper/physical things remember. You're like... saying that binary and trinary can't exist simultaneously even if the hardware allows for it.

[Dynamics]

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Also it in that also it.

No because Existence corrects for transmit and because pretty much every character to be on screen either is from one similar to ours or is used to ones similar to ours for ease of us as writers. Like how people write stories in locations they're used to or in cultures they're used to unless it's meant to be foreign.
Ours and similar to ours are, relatively speaking cause infinity and all, a tiny fraction of the sets of physics there are, we just don't show them and most characters are from them.
We could even go back to something you did a while back trying to say there are other groups similar that either handle other problems or get beaten to it by us, we're the group of similar to our universe physics.

Logic leads to rain gods(TM) and only applies to in our universe so dealing with others means "laws of logic" don't really apply anyway. It's like running multiple OSs on a comp, it doesn't make the comp fail so long as you know what you're doing. And remember that universes that "fail" are just as common as ones that "succeed," you can't really have anomalies when dealing with the setup we have for dimensions. The whole point is that every possible one is repeated ad infinitum, and with everything being infinite and infinity not surpassing itself, there can't be more or less of something than another.

@DarkwolfX37

On what grounds?
This is supposed to be a simulation. We can't take easy routes.
Infinity is disputed.
That wasn't the purpose of mentioning them. The fact is that the chances of us being the only group is so astronomically small it might as well be zero.

That's exactly what I'm saying. They can't interweave among each other without collapsing. And universes don't fail, because the canon has always been that the System filters out universes that are destroyed or can't exist. We have very different concepts of Existence that we've tried to create for three years and they've not really meshed.

[Dynamics]

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Everything is made of the same meta/hyper/physical things remember. You're like... saying that binary and trinary can't exist simultaneously even if the hardware allows for it.

@DarkwolfX37

At the same time, binary can't suddenly become quaternary, or represent other types of number systems.

[DarkwolfX37]

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On what grounds?
This is supposed to be a simulation. We can't take easy routes.
Infinity is disputed.
That wasn't the purpose of mentioning them. The fact is that the chances of us being the only group is so astronomically small it might as well be zero.

That's exactly what I'm saying. They can't interweave among each other without collapsing. And universes don't fail, because the canon has always been that the System filters out universes that are destroyed or can't exist. We have very different concepts of Existence that we've tried to create for three years and they've not really meshed.

@Dynamics

On what grounds for what?
I haven't been. I've been actively bringing from other laws of physics recently. But they're used to similar to ours because that's what Dark preferred and they all knew him.
Bleh.
Right but we're the best group. :P

I'm defining failed loosely for that very reason. Hence the "". You might say no life is failed or that collapsing is failed so I made it vague to fit for either. But even though they're filtered out doesn't mean they aren't there, there's countless new ones every unit of time that are there for a unit and then gone to be replaced with new ones for a unit and so on and so on. So they're still there, even though they aren't there.

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At the same time, binary can't suddenly become quaternary, or represent other types of number systems.

@Dynamics

But it can be converted into it, translated. Because they have the same atoms for their hardware, and so on and so on smaller and smaller. That's Code. That's the whole point to Code. If physics are binary, Code is the absolute smallest thing that makes up everything that eventually scales up to make the hardware. Remember?

[Darlit Glitch]

I missed a lot.
What's happening?

[Dynamics]

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On what grounds for what?
I haven't been. I've been actively bringing from other laws of physics recently. But they're used to similar to ours because that's what Dark preferred and they all knew him.
Bleh.
Right but we're the best group. :P

I'm defining failed loosely for that very reason. Hence the "". You might say no life is failed or that collapsing is failed so I made it vague to fit for either. But even though they're filtered out doesn't mean they aren't there, there's countless new ones every unit of time that are there for a unit and then gone to be replaced with new ones for a unit and so on and so on. So they're still there, even though they aren't there.

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But it can be converted into it, translated. Because they have the same atoms for their hardware, and so on and so on smaller and smaller. That's Code. That's the whole point to Code. If physics are binary, Code is the absolute smallest thing that makes up everything that eventually scales up to make the hardware. Remember?

@DarkwolfX37

That it corrects for transmit?

I do remember. However, even code must behave in some predictable manner, or else universes could not exist.

[Dynamics]

I missed a lot.
What's happening?

@Darlit Glitch

IC or OOC?

[Darlit Glitch]

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IC or OOC?

@Dynamics

Kinda both, more OOC though.

[Dynamics]

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Kinda both, more OOC though.

@Darlit Glitch

Discussing underlying mechanics of Existence.

[DarkwolfX37]

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That it corrects for transmit?

I do remember. However, even code must behave in some predictable manner, or else universes could not exist.

@Dynamics

On the grounds that the original Source made it that way.

Again, Sources.

[Dynamics]

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On the grounds that the original Source made it that way.

Again, Sources.

@DarkwolfX37

Yeah, show me yours =P

[Darlit Glitch]

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Discussing underlying mechanics of Existence.

@Dynamics

I read through most of it and i have to ask,
Couldn't realities with completely different physics be linked to our's through progressively different alternate realities that are linked to one another?
Kind of like the transition from one color to another.

[Dynamics]

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I read through most of it and i have to ask,
Couldn't realities with completely different physics be linked to our's through progressively different alternate realities that are linked to one another?
Kind of like the transition from one color to another.

@Darlit Glitch

Existence isn't linear. That's the issue.

[Darlit Glitch]

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Existence isn't linear. That's the issue.

@Dynamics

Ahhhh.
I can see the problem then.