[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Dynamics]

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Ahhhh.
I can see the problem then.

@Darlit Glitch

'Tis quite the connundrum.

[DarkwolfX37]

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I read through most of it and i have to ask,
Couldn't realities with completely different physics be linked to our's through progressively different alternate realities that are linked to one another?
Kind of like the transition from one color to another.

@Darlit Glitch

No but that's how I image most get used to different physics, searching out like that.

[Heroic]

Might have to go in a few because Frontier is being stupid again.

[Dynamics]

Might have to go in a few because Frontier is being stupid again.

@Heroic

Okay.

[Balance]

bed, ned

[Darlit Glitch]

night, see ya later.

[souleaterfan320]

Hello

[Balance]

So, I read your argument from yesterday. Both sides made really good arguments in my opinion, and I couldn't decide who was right, but the following argument supporting Dark came to my mind. Please read the whole thing before you start responding.

Consider this scenario: A computer, which runs two different operations systems--a binary one and a ternary one. Assume, for the sake of simplicity, that they require different arrangements of electronic components, since they use two sorts of logic and it wouldn't really work if they were all using the same stuff. Now, these two parts are slightly separated from each other, such that they don't go trying to run themselves in parts which don't make sense. That would break everything. However, the two systems can get data from each other, using a translator.

So why don't they break? Because they're separated. But, even still, they use the same electronic components--just arranged differently. Or, even better, they use the same materials which make the electronic components--just arranged differently. Therefore, the same framework (the materials) is running two entirely different systems of operation which are normally incompatible with each other.

As one more basis, note that the electronic components obviously are not made out of binary, or ternary. The electronic components which binary and ternary run on use a different logic of arrangement. Two different systems of logic running on another system of logic which makes them both happen.

Now we extend the metaphor. Two universes. Two different kinds of logic which make zero sense to each other. If one universe tried to reach into the other universe and use its logic, everything would break. So they're kind of separated. What are these two universes running on? A framework: Code. Code, arranged in different ways so that the two kinds of logic can run separately. The Code has its own form of logic which allows both types to run.

Now, this logic is not necessarily our logic. In this example, we are binary, and the other universe is ternary. It doesn't use our logic. It doesn't make sense to us. It defies our human reason. And yet, is it not avarice to say that ours is the only system of reason that should ever work? Why shouldn't Code have its own form of logic which supersedes ours and yet allows ours to exist? Why shouldn't Code be able to allow other forms of logic?

A perfect example is God--He certainly doesn't run on our reason. He has His own way. Heaven will, of course, be filled with many things which we can't comprehend right now. And yet it will make sense, once we're running on a better framework of logic--God's framework. So, that said, if we have an example of this very thing which I describe happening in real life, how can we say that it couldn't happen in Existence?

[Dynamics]

@Balance

First counterargument: God created reason and is a God of logic. He definitely does operate on our logic.

Second counterargument: The computer analogy is flawed because Existence isn't a case; it's its own system entirely with underlying interworkings. So it would be significantly more like one operating system running on binary and another running on goats. One makes no sense to the other, and they don't properly represent Existence as a whole, because whatever logic the System and Subsystem operates on in the logic that all of Existence must follow. One operating system, two opposing materials.

[Darlit Glitch]

morning.

[DarkwolfX37]

@Balance

First counterargument: God created reason and is a God of logic. He definitely does operate on our logic.

Second counterargument: The computer analogy is flawed because Existence isn't a case; it's its own system entirely with underlying interworkings. So it would be significantly more like one operating system running on binary and another running on goats. One makes no sense to the other, and they don't properly represent Existence as a whole, because whatever logic the System and Subsystem operates on in the logic that all of Existence must follow. One operating system, two opposing materials.

@Dynamics

But the operating system is still itself made of Code. Sure, one is running on goats, but goats are still made of the same smallest possible quantum that the binary is made of. So if you convert it via something bigger, like base elements, you can translate from binary to goats, it's just the process doesn't make sense to us because we're humans who don't have grasp how that would actually work.

[Balance]

@Balance

First counterargument: God created reason and is a God of logic. He definitely does operate on our logic.

Second counterargument: The computer analogy is flawed because Existence isn't a case; it's its own system entirely with underlying interworkings. So it would be significantly more like one operating system running on binary and another running on goats. One makes no sense to the other, and they don't properly represent Existence as a whole, because whatever logic the System and Subsystem operates on in the logic that all of Existence must follow. One operating system, two opposing materials.

@Dynamics

Hmm.

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But the operating system is still itself made of Code. Sure, one is running on goats, but goats are still made of the same smallest possible quantum that the binary is made of. So if you convert it via something bigger, like base elements, you can translate from binary to goats, it's just the process doesn't make sense to us because we're humans who don't have grasp how that would actually work.

@DarkwolfX37

Hmm.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Balance]

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But the operating system is still itself made of Code. Sure, one is running on goats, but goats are still made of the same smallest possible quantum that the binary is made of. So if you convert it via something bigger, like base elements, you can translate from binary to goats, it's just the process doesn't make sense to us because we're humans who don't have grasp how that would actually work.

@DarkwolfX37

Also I made Boots of the Traveller and they super amazing. I don't think I've ever actually used them before.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Also I made Boots of the Traveller and they super amazing. I don't think I've ever actually used them before.

@Balance

niice

[Dynamics]

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But the operating system is still itself made of Code. Sure, one is running on goats, but goats are still made of the same smallest possible quantum that the binary is made of. So if you convert it via something bigger, like base elements, you can translate from binary to goats, it's just the process doesn't make sense to us because we're humans who don't have grasp how that would actually work.

@DarkwolfX37

But that has nothing to do with anything. I'm made of atoms and a computer is made of atoms, but I'm not made of binary.

[DarkwolfX37]

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But that has nothing to do with anything. I'm made of atoms and a computer is made of atoms, but I'm not made of binary.

@Dynamics

But you could be translated into binary because of it.

[Dynamics]

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But you could be translated into binary because of it.

@DarkwolfX37

Sort of. You can have a binary representation of my atomic arrangement, yes, but it doesn't mean much.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Sort of. You can have a binary representation of my atomic arrangement, yes, but it doesn't mean much.

@Dynamics

No you're thinking of it wrong.

[Dynamics]

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No you're thinking of it wrong.

@DarkwolfX37

Do tell.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Do tell.

@Dynamics

You're thinking of binary as some base thing but it's not.