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I do not know what that question is towards so I will assume 3rd. Yeah, I feel like we had a conversation very similar to the one we are having now.


I don't recall that.
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I don't recall that.


Still dejavu. Up unt8l the point I mentioned it was a dejavu.
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Still dejavu. Up unt8l the point I mentioned it was a dejavu.


Weird.
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So here's the current plan for integrating that thing a few arcs from now.

- A new thread, since this is a different format and might attract new rpers because of it who don't want to be a part of MR proper.
- NPCs to be dolled out to those knowledgeable of them as needed, and non-canon NPCs to be given either randomly or by request.
- Between 1 and 8 characters per person, preferably 3. In our cases they would be chars from MR entering this.
- Shortened times per universe unless we get a bunch of new players to it.
- Discounts are - 25% instead of - 50% unless certain criteria are met.
- One of the 1 to 8 chars has to be the focus per player, though which one is the focus can switch between universes or upon death of the focus.
- Companions gained count towards the 8 chars.
- Certain things will be priced differently than stated to keep balance in case a focus dies.
- At the end chars can keep everything they've gained, trade for new abilities that don't appear in the game, receive a to be determined number of cp to be used across all universes, or choose a to be determined number of bonuses from the games. All but certain traits will be boosted to MR levels upon finishing.
- I'll do any rolls needed to keep consistency.
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So here's the current plan for integrating that thing a few arcs from now.

- A new thread, since this is a different format and might attract new rpers because of it who don't want to be a part of MR proper.
- NPCs to be dolled out to those knowledgeable of them as needed, and non-canon NPCs to be given either randomly or by request.
- Between 1 and 8 characters per person, preferably 3. In our cases they would be chars from MR entering this.
- Shortened times per universe unless we get a bunch of new players to it.
- Discounts are - 25% instead of - 50% unless certain criteria are met.
- One of the 1 to 8 chars has to be the focus per player, though which one is the focus can switch between universes or upon death of the focus.
- Companions gained count towards the 8 chars.
- Certain things will be priced differently than stated to keep balance in case a focus dies.
- At the end chars can keep everything they've gained, trade for new abilities that don't appear in the game, receive a to be determined number of cp to be used across all universes, or choose a to be determined number of bonuses from the games. All but certain traits will be boosted to MR levels upon finishing.
- I'll do any rolls needed to keep consistency.


This sounds really hard to implement.
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This sounds really hard to implement.


It really won't be if things go the way I'm planning. It'll be training because of Unity for the chars who enter.
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It really won't be if things go the way I'm planning. It'll be training because of Unity for the chars who enter.


This would be canon?
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You know I can never really appreciate Ma'at's powers enough. Sure if you look at it on paper, she's pretty limited, but then when you actualize things she becomes nigh-omnipotent and I love it.
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This would be canon?


Yes.
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You know I can never really appreciate Ma'at's powers enough. Sure if you look at it on paper, she's pretty limited, but then when you actualize things she becomes nigh-omnipotent and I love it.


I feel like it's the opposite, personally.

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Yes.


These kinds of things are really well suited for What-If Rifts.
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I feel like it's the opposite, personally.

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These kinds of things are really well suited for What-If Rifts.


Then you don't really follow how everything becomes a vector when actualized.

Ew. I want to avoid those as much as possible. They defeat the purpose of MR.
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Then you don't really follow how everything becomes a vector when actualized.

Ew. I want to avoid those as much as possible. They defeat the purpose of MR.


On the other hand, I know they're not actually the end-all be-all. On paper, they look nigh unbeatable, but in practice, they have weaknesses.

This defeats it even more.
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On the other hand, I know they're not actually the end-all be-all. On paper, they look nigh unbeatable, but in practice, they have weaknesses.

This defeats it even more.


Name two other than scalars.

It really doesn't.
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Name two other than scalars.

It really doesn't.


We've had the conversation before. Some of it is situational and depends on the execution of the ability. Others aren't, such as enthalpy and energy concentration, which, consequently, can form matter.

A canonical explanation for events that don't fit the style versus a dice and board game system with no explanation.
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You know I can never really appreciate Ma'at's powers enough. Sure if you look at it on paper, she's pretty limited, but then when you actualize things she becomes nigh-omnipotent and I love it.


Hekrom could beat her, possibly even easily, if done right.
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We've had the conversation before. Some of it is situational and depends on the execution of the ability. Others aren't, such as enthalpy and energy concentration, which, consequently, can form matter.

A canonical explanation for events that don't fit the style versus a dice and board game system with no explanation.


Literally all of these things can be countered because they have vectors. Location is a vector.

It's not a dice and board. It's just that between each universe dice are needed to determine certain things for that new universe. It'll be easy to fit in.
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Hekrom could beat her, possibly even easily, if done right.




IN exquisite detail.



Ma'at's power is total control of all vectors that are within her five human senses all things being equal. THIS MEANS BASICALLY ANYTHING.

Let's examine what "all things being equal" means. This means that, if there is a situation where vector X could be within her senses given her current status, yet it isn't, she can still control it. For example: Let's say that she wants to change the locational vectors of a star. She's looking at the sky in the daytime and cannot see the star. Because, if she were in the same state she is currently in, yet an outside, changing factor is in the way, she can still control those vectors as if it were night and she could sense them with her sight. Because if all things were equal, day and night are irrelevant, making this factor null in reference to her power.
Let's look at all five senses, shall we?
Sight: Already covered. If her sight is unobstructed, she can control it. My favorite example of this is: If she looked at the sky, and there was a black hole within the area that she can see, even though there is no physical way to actually sense it with her sight, because it would be within her sight if all things were equal, ie there was enough light to see the lack of light from the black hole, she could control it. So at noon on any given planet, she could literally drop a black hole on you.
Hearing: This is fun to think about. Let's say that there's a machine that is vibrating, yet managed to make no sound. Since, if all things being equal, this machine would be making noise because of its vibrations, if that sound that would otherwise be there would be within her range of hearing, she could control the vectors of that machine.
Taste: Not really needing to go into detail since if she can taste it, she can sense it with her other senses too.
Touch: Same as taste.
Smell: If there's something that she cannot smell because it doesn't react with her physical sensors in her nose that allow for smell, but she would be able to smell it if she had the proper sensors, then she can control its vectors.

She could literally go up to Prism at the strongest he'll ever be, control the vectors of his power and energy so that its entirety is focused in one spot, and kill him with it.

She could literally beat ANYTHING if she wanted to, other than Osiris, who can only win because he was literally designed to be able to take away Ma'at's powers.
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IN exquisite detail.



Ma'at's power is total control of all vectors that are within her five human senses all things being equal. THIS MEANS BASICALLY ANYTHING.

Let's examine what "all things being equal" means. This means that, if there is a situation where vector X could be within her senses given her current status, yet it isn't, she can still control it. For example: Let's say that she wants to change the locational vectors of a star. She's looking at the sky in the daytime and cannot see the star. Because, if she were in the same state she is currently in, yet an outside, changing factor is in the way, she can still control those vectors as if it were night and she could sense them with her sight. Because if all things were equal, day and night are irrelevant, making this factor null in reference to her power.
Let's look at all five senses, shall we?
Sight: Already covered. If her sight is unobstructed, she can control it. My favorite example of this is: If she looked at the sky, and there was a black hole within the area that she can see, even though there is no physical way to actually sense it with her sight, because it would be within her sight if all things were equal, ie there was enough light to see the lack of light from the black hole, she could control it. So at noon on any given planet, she could literally drop a black hole on you.
Hearing: This is fun to think about. Let's say that there's a machine that is vibrating, yet managed to make no sound. Since, if all things being equal, this machine would be making noise because of its vibrations, if that sound that would otherwise be there would be within her range of hearing, she could control the vectors of that machine.
Taste: Not really needing to go into detail since if she can taste it, she can sense it with her other senses too.
Touch: Same as taste.
Smell: If there's something that she cannot smell because it doesn't react with her physical sensors in her nose that allow for smell, but she would be able to smell it if she had the proper sensors, then she can control its vectors.

She could literally go up to Prism at the strongest he'll ever be, control the vectors of his power and energy so that its entirety is focused in one spot, and kill him with it.

She could literally beat ANYTHING if she wanted to, other than Osiris, who can only win because he was literally designed to be able to take away Ma'at's powers.


Alright, well, also, consider the following:

Hekrom uses telekinesis, which halts no direction, no real conceivable magnitude, considering the hasn't been a study to prove there is, and that the literal definition of vector is:
a quantity having direction as well as magnitude, especially as determining the position of one point in space relative to another.

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Alright, well, also, consider the following:

Hekrom uses telekinesis, which halts no direction, no real conceivable magnitude, considering the hasn't been a study to prove there is, and that the literal definition of vector is:
a quantity having direction as well as magnitude, especially as determining the position of one point in space relative to another.


Uhm... You... you do know that telekinesis is a force, and force is a vector, right?
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Uhm... You... you do know that telekinesis is a force, and force is a vector, right?


Well, shit. I tried.

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