[OOC] Myriad Reality

[souleaterfan320]

Actually, the definition doesn't directly say that telekinesis is a force.

the supposed ability to move objects at a distance by mental power or other nonphysical means.

[Techspert]

I'm in a great deal of physical pain right now, so I won't be able to give any elaborate responses until it subsides and may just end up having to sleep. I don't have details, sorry.

@DarkwolfX37

Because I can only muster enough focus enough to skim that, I respond with anything broadly enough defined will be nearly unbeatable.

[Etcetera]

Okay, I think the pain is beginning to fade. That was two hours of torture.

[souleaterfan320]

Okay, I think the pain is beginning to fade. That was two hours of torture.

@Etcetera

Good, good.

[Etcetera]

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Good, good.

@souleaterfan320

I still can't focus very well.

[souleaterfan320]

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I still can't focus very well.

@Etcetera

That's fine. Im excited to see what dark thinks, now that i have nearly finished my theories. Is just need a bit more info from whiz to confirm this.

[DarkwolfX37]

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That's fine. Im excited to see what dark thinks, now that i have nearly finished my theories. Is just need a bit more info from whiz to confirm this.

@souleaterfan320

???

[DarkwolfX37]

Actually, the definition doesn't directly say that telekinesis is a force.

the supposed ability to move objects at a distance by mental power or other nonphysical means.

@souleaterfan320

If it's moving something, it's a force.
Force: "strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement."

[souleaterfan320]

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If it's moving something, it's a force.
Force: "strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement."

@DarkwolfX37

Its not force, its an ability. The item is moving on its own, 'as if' its being pushed. There is no direct movement from Hekrom, either. He could be in another room, and as long as he knows the position of the box, or itiswithin its range, it moves. As soon as hepercieves the item, it can be manipulated. For instance:

I assumed that her entering an area he is in, thus entering within his telekinesis range, that his range acts as a field, and that her entering it would be similar to touch sense, which the average reaction time to touch is .15, Hekrom could literally stop all movement in her body the moment that .15 seconds is up, nearly instantly killing her.

On top of that, if her reaction time is slower than that .15, she's as good as dead, and on top of that, depending on the range of the field of her vectors and Hekrom's field, it could get quite messy.

[souleaterfan320]

Also, dark, with BOTH of these characters, we deal with untold amounts of Hypotheticals. It could very well in all reality go either way.

[DarkwolfX37]

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Its not force, its an ability. The item is moving on its own, 'as if' its being pushed. There is no direct movement from Hekrom, either. He could be in another room, and as long as he knows the position of the box, or itiswithin its range, it moves. As soon as hepercieves the item, it can be manipulated. For instance:

I assumed that her entering an area he is in, thus entering within his telekinesis range, that his range acts as a field, and that her entering it would be similar to touch sense, which the average reaction time to touch is .15, Hekrom could literally stop all movement in her body the moment that .15 seconds is up, nearly instantly killing her.

On top of that, if her reaction time is slower than that .15, she's as good as dead, and on top of that, depending on the range of the field of her vectors and Hekrom's field, it could get quite messy.

@souleaterfan320

There are three problems with this.

- The entirety of definition of force. Check 4. Telekinesis is a force.
1. physical power or strength possessed by a living being:
2. strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence:
3. strength; energy; power; intensity:
4. power to influence, affect, or control; efficacious power:

- Displacement is a vector. That means a change in position is a vector.

- The vectors of her body are constantly under her control. You can't just affect them, she's maintaining homeostasis with her power.

[Etcetera]

@DarkwolfX37

When you choose what definitions apply for anything, it will inevitably be too strong.

[souleaterfan320]

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There are three problems with this.

- The entirety of definition of force. Check 4. Telekinesis is a force.
1. physical power or strength possessed by a living being:
2. strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence:
3. strength; energy; power; intensity:
4. power to influence, affect, or control; efficacious power:

- Displacement is a vector. That means a change in position is a vector.

- The vectors of her body are constantly under her control. You can't just affect them, she's maintaining homeostasis with her power.

@DarkwolfX37

1:Telekinesis itself is not a force, its the name of the ability. Read the definition again. The object moving is what applies the force.

2: what David said.

[souleaterfan320]

Also, there is absolutely no traceable link for Ma'at to follow back to him. There is no point A or B, there is just the object moving in front of her.

Also, I am not a genius, neither do I have the time to prove you wrong about your precious Ma'at. Im applying for jobs right now. Perhaps another time.

[souleaterfan320]

Dark also :

Also, dark, with BOTH of these characters, we deal with untold amounts of Hypotheticals. It could very well in all reality go either way.

@souleaterfan320

Did you miss this?

[DarkwolfX37]

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1:Telekinesis itself is not a force, its the name of the ability. Read the definition again. The object moving is what applies the force.

2: what David said.

@souleaterfan320

Telekinesis acts upon an object and displaces it. In order to do that, it has to be a force.
Movement is a vector.
Telekinesis and psychokinesis are forces.

@DarkwolfX37

When you choose what definitions apply for anything, it will inevitably be too strong.

@Etcetera

They are the only definitions that applies here. Telekinesis is not only by definition a force, because it is a strength or power exerted upon an object, and a power to influence, affect, or control, but it is also considered a force as a power.

[DarkwolfX37]

Dark also :

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Did you miss this?

@souleaterfan320

No, I just don't care.

[souleaterfan320]

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No, I just don't care.

@DarkwolfX37

Well then. Good to see your opinion on taking it into account.

[Ignacious]

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If it's moving something, it's a force.
Force: "strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement."

@DarkwolfX37

So...Raziel can beat her? Since movement creates kinetic energy as well.

[Etcetera]

Okay, good. Pain is down from a 6 to a 1.5.