I'm slowing starting to hate my country. Never have in my life, but its happening. Do not ask why, I wont reply. This is not to start an arguement, just simply a statement of my opinion.
Why mention it at all then?
I'm slowing starting to hate my country. Never have in my life, but its happening. Do not ask why, I wont reply. This is not to start an arguement, just simply a statement of my opinion.
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we're going to build the wall
Ah, but I thought you'd raise that last point. However, it won't matter, because either/both (1) Mexico will surrender before the tariff even works on the American economy or/and (2) Americans will just buy more American-made stuff, since American companies will have to move out of Mexico and make things back in America. And it's not just that--Obamacare and TPP are dead, the Keystone XL is finally happening (and it's being shifted out of contested grounds), and he's met with union and business leaders that respect his incredible business skills and are ready to work things out. Under budget and ahead of schedule.
EDIT: Don't forget cutting off funding to sanctuary cities, already shutting down Miami as a sanctuary.
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His stance on the torture thing isn't a screw up to me whether I agree with it or not. It's actually entirely constitutional. It's one thing to use personal Twitter to speak one's own mind, but that's effectively the same as using company resources to berate your boss. The government is supposed to work together, not be in civil war, and they were being inappropriate for the time and place.
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Blocks cartels.
We don't pay for it and it saves money.
Companies have already started moving back into the U.S. It's how capitalism works; if Mexico prices get to high, we switch to something else.
You assume they'll stay in Mexico; companies follow the money.
I'm slowing starting to hate my country. Never have in my life, but its happening. Do not ask why, I wont reply. This is not to start an arguement, just simply a statement of my opinion.
I will just say that Trump has been in an odd teeter-totter-ish place with me recently. He gave me the impression initially that he didn't intend to actually make Mexico pay for it, which he then doubly reversed on. He then takes on Paul policy, which if you know me, I won't need to explain. Then that whole issue with his man Spicer lying about what is probably the most trivial and unimportant of things. Then he actually is doing work in his first moments in office... But some of it is just "meh", to not go into detail about it. I'm just bleh about it all right now.
@DarkwolfX37
It's not relevant whether I agree with his stance or not. I don't, but he's doing what he believes in instead of pandering.
The government is allowed to censor itself. The First Amendment doesn't protect from any and all consequences of peoples' words.
Probably because we haven't spoken in a long time and you think that anything you disagree with is stupid. It's not a very constructive train of thought.
Time. Time is a company resource, and it's being used to berate their boss.
I don't want the poor ones either. But there are plenty of test cases that prove walls do in fact work. You can obstruct tunnels by building it deeply and including seismographs (or mines if you want to be fun with it), and then there are other technologies that are available to the govt.
All of those workarounds are easily accounted for and ships don't work very well.
Overstayed visas can also be worked with internally. There are plenty of border hoppers; I live in Texas and we get some of the worst of it. Just because the majority is one thing doesn't mean we shouldn't stop lawbreakers in another; it's a false dichotomy.
The figures don't agree with that. Tax wire transfers to Mexico, strongarm them with NAFTA, cut our funding to Mexico, etc. There is a plethora of avenues that cost us nothing in the end that we wouldn't do otherwise.
Funny you mention propaganda considering the current state of affairs and media. There have been more than two, as well as others investing in the U.S.; plus, it's literally not even week 2 yet and we already have so much and it will continue to get better. The DOW continues to rise (until it inevitably crashes, whether because of a bubble or someone above it pulling the strings), but things are looking up. It's going to be good.
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Where'd you hear Spicer's been lying, and about what?
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I never said it matters if you agree or not.
The First amendment specifically protects against censorship as a result of someone's words.
No you're just genuinely stupid when it comes to politics.
It's part of their jobs to inform the public of scientific information. Pointing out that trump is lying about it is not a waste of their time. And no, the president is not the boss of all the government's sectors. We have three branches for a fucking reason.
"Test cases." None on the scale trump talks about. None that cover such a large area. You are vastly overestimating.
That's not even what a false dichotomy means. Neither is it a false dichotomy. It's an issue of priorities. If 80% of the country is dying of hunger and 20 percent is dying of disease, it's much more prudent to focus on the issue of hunger if you want to save people.
They really aren't. In order to even partially cover them, we'd have to cut funding to so many things that the country might genuinely fail in order to just keep our current rate of debt.
Pretty sure trump wants out of nafta. And everything would cost us in the end. A) You're really underestimating how much this would cost and B) You're not understanding how international affairs work. You're more likely to get a major war than anything else.
Trump is actively fighting freedom of press and is spewing nothing but his own bullshit propaganda every time he opens his mouth on a subject. Things were bad before with every tv news outlet in the U.S. being propaganda but trump takes it to an entirely different dimension.
There have been two. And "investing in the U.S." means nothing. They'd do that anyway to expand and they're doing it because they're getting shit out of it, which is costing us.
We have so much terrible shit and it's going to get worse. He's offset every good thing he's done with a bad thing of higher magnitude. He not only has all the warning signs of a dictator but even his bullshit pandering is following in the footsteps of previous dictators. He's going to try to be one during his time in office, but the worst part is that getting rid of him would put pence in and he's even worse somehow. You're going to see everything go to shit and it might end up coming to a head in an internal war in this country, depending on how effective rational people are at reigning in his shit.
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Dude EVERYONE working for trump is lying. That's part of the job working for him. I've yet to hear about Spicer but they're literally defending themselves using what they call "alternative facts," which should immediately tell you means bullshit.
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*barely jumps to the side in time* Oh, getting feisty already, are we? *whips out Vita and swipes in your direction, sending several small but powerful balls of energy at you; falls through a portal and lands opposite you on the edge of the arena*
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Getting there, m8.
I will just say that Trump has been in an odd teeter-totter-ish place with me recently. He gave me the impression initially that he didn't intend to actually make Mexico pay for it, which he then doubly reversed on. He then takes on Paul policy, which if you know me, I won't need to explain. Then that whole issue with his man Spicer lying about what is probably the most trivial and unimportant of things. Then he actually is doing work in his first moments in office... But some of it is just "meh", to not go into detail about it. I'm just bleh about it all right now.
Sorry.
@DarkwolfX37
"No you're just genuinely stupid when it comes to politics. "
This is why your immature response and opinion is discarded.
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I can only imagine that that was a miscommunication or information mistake. It makes so much less sense to assume that he's blatantly lying about it.
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It's based on you repeatedly showing it to be true in the past.
It's also incredibly hypocritical of you to support trump yet respond that way to a statement.
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Yeah, they're calling out the alternative facts that the MSM is using.
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Let me break that down. That assumes first that
You are correct about this, politically speaking. This brash statement cannot be made without that assumption.
Supporting Trump is automatically a negative statement as to my political understanding. This also connects to the previous assumption, that you are correct in this matter.
You know the extent of my political knowledge. We rarely speak politically, and no, it is not a matter of "from what you have said I already know." You don't.
That President Trump is a bad thing, also appealing to assumption one.
That there is evidence that my political knowledge is inferior, other than "because I said so."
In addition, the way you stated that already shuts down dissent; that's a logical fallacy. You can't just say that someone knows less than you as an actual point in argument. If you didn't state it as an argument, then it's ad hominem, another logical fallacy. It's also extremely arrogant to make the previous assumptions and just come out with "You're wrong, so it doesn't even matter."
And probably more than anything, it's just an unkind thing to say to someone who considers you a friend just because you disagree with them politically.
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I didnt say I wasnt using them at all, just most of the fight. That particular attack you did last was very similar to another fight ive been in during my past, i asusmed it was similar.
*stands up straight*
Alright, then. Show me what youve got.
@DarkwolfX37
"No you're just genuinely stupid when it comes to politics. "
This is why your immature response and opinion is discarded.
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I can only imagine that that was a miscommunication or information mistake. It makes so much less sense to assume that he's blatantly lying about it.