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Fair note that it typically causes severe mental and physical pain the first time one traverses dimensions independently, and often kills those who do so. It's a result of their philotic ties to all of their their original dimension being snapped at once. There are workarounds, but not if they want to dimensionally teleport at will.
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Fair note that it typically causes severe mental and physical pain the first time one traverses dimensions independently, and often kills those who do so. It's a result of their philotic ties to all of their their original dimension being snapped at once. There are workarounds, but not if they want to dimensionally teleport at will.


Would such things effect a being like Fenris?
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Would such things effect a being like Fenris?


I'm assuming she's already a Tier Four, given her condition. If you mean the first time, it would, but it applies differently depending on how the being responds to such stimuli. Even in higher physical dimensions, you still have the snapping philotic ties, so it would impact the being in an analogous way. If not pain, then at least some sensation to correspond to the change.
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I'm assuming she's already a Tier Four, given her condition. If you mean the first time, it would, but it applies differently depending on how the being responds to such stimuli. Even in higher physical dimensions, you still have the snapping philotic ties, so it would impact the being in an analogous way. If not pain, then at least some sensation to correspond to the change.


Hmm...so it would affect her avatar then, as Fenris itself is still in the Ninth Dimension, deep within Driunor, and is just using the form you see and interact with as a puppet.
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Hmm...so it would affect her avatar then, as Fenris itself is still in the Ninth Dimension, deep within Driunor, and is just using the form you see and interact with as a puppet.


Has Fenris ever left that dimension? If not, then they'd probably be fine. The puppet may or may not experience it (depending on whether or not they themselves are boosted to Tier Four), but it would be very difficult to succeed in doing so without them being conscious. The idea is that this severing of connections will cause you to rip apart unless you have the willpower to hold yourself together, allowing the severed philotes to rebind to each other rather than other random philotes (which is where the rip-apart part comes in).
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Has Fenris ever left that dimension? If not, then they'd probably be fine. The puppet may or may not experience it (depending on whether or not they themselves are boosted to Tier Four), but it would be very difficult to succeed in doing so without them being conscious. The idea is that this severing of connections will cause you to rip apart unless you have the willpower to hold yourself together, allowing the severed philotes to rebind to each other rather than other random philotes (which is where the rip-apart part comes in).


I see. Though keep in mind that I'm basing Fenris's avatar system on Darkseid's.
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I see. Though keep in mind that I'm basing Fenris's avatar system on Darkseid's.


I don't know how that works =P

My comic super hero experience is really shallow.
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I don't know how that works =P

My comic super hero experience is really shallow.


Darkseid, real Darkseid, resides on Apokolips while his less powerful avatars that he creates go out into the multiverse which is what lets him interact with everything else without destroying existence, since his true for can wipe out the cosmos.

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Hey @Shadow Dragon, just as a heads up, we don't do the () OOC in the IC (parentheses have another designated meaning, actually). We usually just put questions here.
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Ah. Thanks for letting me know.
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Ah. Thanks for letting me know.


No worries, thanks for being flexible.
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Hey @Shadow Dragon, just as a heads up, we don't do the () OOC in the IC (parentheses have another designated meaning, actually). We usually just put questions here.


Actually did not know that myself.
What are they used for if I may ask?
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I just thought of a way to potentially bypass the philotic threads. What if Fenris just manipulated the lower dimension it wanted to manifest in and created an avatar within it but in such a way as to make it seem as though he/she was "teleporting" or instantaneously appearing in different locations throughout existence? That way the avatar itself would not suffer any ill effects as it's being created in the dimension and thus doesn't have to go through the process that Tier Four's do when dimension hopping.
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Actually did not know that myself.
What are they used for if I may ask?


You can use them for direct communication to another individual via a private channel if the speakers are on DataNet (name pending). Effectively, if they're communicating via a private channel, it would be theoretically invisible to everyone other than those on any platforms that information leaks to.

It's kind of complicated and the Guild isn't very conducive to that kind of system. When MR was on iFunny, it was effectively necessary since no beings other than humans could read the private chats.

I just thought of a way to potentially bypass the philotic threads. What if Fenris just manipulated the lower dimension it wanted to manifest in and created an avatar within it but in such a way as to make it seem as though he/she was "teleporting" or instantaneously appearing in different locations throughout existence? That way the avatar itself would not suffer any ill effects as it's being created in the dimension and thus doesn't have to go through the process that Tier Four's do when dimension hopping.


Effectively creating an avatar every time Fenris hops? Doable, but there could be potential connection issues, depending on what might interfere with it in the span of all of Existence. That, along with signal range and required energy input.
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You can use them for direct communication to another individual via a private channel if the speakers are on DataNet (name pending). Effectively, if they're communicating via a private channel, it would be theoretically invisible to everyone other than those on any platforms that information leaks to.

It's kind of complicated and the Guild isn't very conducive to that kind of system. When MR was on iFunny, it was effectively necessary since no beings other than humans could read the private chats.

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Effectively creating an avatar every time Fenris hops? Doable, but there could be potential connection issues, depending on what might interfere with it in the span of all of Existence. That, along with signal range and required energy input.


True, but keep in mind that Fenris is only nigh omnipotent, so it's logical that its powers have limits. That and having limitations on how far and where it could create avatars could create tension in certain situations. Especially ones involving combat or high stakes.
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True, but keep in mind that Fenris is only nigh omnipotent, so it's logical that its powers have limits. That and having limitations on how far and where it could create avatars could create tension in certain situations. Especially ones involving combat or high stakes.


Fair, fair. Hopefully we get to see base Fenris in combat one day.
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You can use them for direct communication to another individual via a private channel if the speakers are on DataNet (name pending). Effectively, if they're communicating via a private channel, it would be theoretically invisible to everyone other than those on any platforms that information leaks to.

It's kind of complicated and the Guild isn't very conducive to that kind of system. When MR was on iFunny, it was effectively necessary since no beings other than humans could read the private chats.

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Effectively creating an avatar every time Fenris hops? Doable, but there could be potential connection issues, depending on what might interfere with it in the span of all of Existence. That, along with signal range and required energy input.


Could I have an example please, just to know I'm understanding it right.
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Fair, fair. Hopefully we get to see base Fenris in combat one day.


That's my hope. Maybe against some other powerful beings in Existence or something.
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An example please, just to know I'm understanding it right.


(Hey, let's all throw a prank on Time Line when he gets back from his mission. I'll pretend to be bleeding to death and you pretend to be dead.)

^And if this were used here on the Guild, it means every human who legitimately accesses this site can read the leaked information. Long shot that anyone important will see it, but possible.

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That's my hope. Maybe against some other powerful beings in Existence or something.


I can think of three that would be likely to push it to that scenario in combat, two of which are in the group.
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(Hey, let's all throw a prank on Time Line when he gets back from his mission. I'll pretend to be bleeding to death and you pretend to be dead.)

^And if this were used here on the Guild, it means every human who legitimately accesses this site can read the leaked information. Long shot that anyone important will see it, but possible.

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I can think of three that would be likely to push it to that scenario in combat, two of which are in the group.


Ahhhh, got it.
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