[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Legend]

Ugh, parents.

[Valiance]

Legend said
Ugh, parents.

What's with all the friction lately?

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Valiance said
What's with all the friction lately?

I dunno. It all started when my mom wouldn't listen to me. Humans are such creatures of emotions, and I think that's the reason why my mom and I conflict with each other so much. Because while I can be emotional, I definitely don't let emotions rule me like she does. Just now, she called me the most arrogant person she knew, and I responded with "I doubt you actually think that. Psychology shows that things you say when angry or upset are far from what you actually mean." (This was exactly my response, give or take a word or two) and then she goes "Fine, too five, no contest." I can get along with my dad better when it comes to arguments because he's willing to "play along" as he puts it for a while, so at least there's some intelligent discussion, but because he's more prone to anger than I am, when he gets angry, he really gets angry. My biggest issue is that I apparently inadvertently disrespect them. I say things without getting into emotions (honestly because (as they put it) I want to be treated as an equal, which I don't really argue with), but I literally have no other way to talk with them. I just can't sit there and let any information be incorrect, but if I try go reach a conclusion of any sort or any kind of truth, they pin it as arguments and disrespect. I just don't know what else I can say.

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Today's problems actually started with them shooting down a scientific idea I had because it was "too dangerous" (even though I had safety precautions in mind) and apparently "useless to the progression of humanity" (which I totally don't agree with). And I'm going to be honest, doing that hurt me. But I have no way of telling them that.

[Valiance]

LegendBegins said
I dunno. It all started when my mom wouldn't listen to me. Humans are such creatures of emotions, and I think that's the reason why my mom and I conflict with each other so much. Because while I can be emotional, I definitely don't let emotions rule me like she does. Just now, she called me the most arrogant person she knew, and I responded with "I doubt you actually think that. Psychology shows that things you say when angry or upset are far from what you actually mean." (This was exactly my response, give or take a word or two) and then she goes "Fine, too five, no contest." I can get along with my dad better when it comes to arguments because he's willing to "play along" as he puts it for a while, so at least there's some intelligent discussion, but because he's more prone to anger than I am, when he gets angry, he really gets angry. My biggest issue is that I apparently inadvertently disrespect them. I say things without getting into emotions (honestly because (as they put it) I want to be treated as an equal, which I don't really argue with), but I literally have no other way to talk with them. I just can't sit there and let any information be incorrect, but if I try go reach a conclusion of any sort or any kind of truth, they pin it as arguments and disrespect. I just don't know what else I can say.

Bro, if you want to go into detail on any of that with anyone, I'm here. I understand, because that coupled with ridiculous punishments has dominated my life since my parents got married.

[Legend]

Valiance said
Bro, if you want to go into detail on any of that with anyone, I'm here. I understand, because that coupled with ridiculous punishments has dominated my life since my parents got married.

Ugh. Part of the thing is that they don't really have anything to do to punish me, so it makes me feel worse. I'm even taller than my dad, so poking my chest with his finger doesn't really accomplish much, and I feel terrible. But they have no idea that I feel terrible about it, which makes them think I don't care, which makes me feel even worse. And my goal of any discussion/argument is to reach a conclusion or truth at the end, and I recognize that the best course of action would be to shut up, but I can't do that. Whether it be my nature, personality, or whatever, something makes me keep talking when something they said is invalid, and then the situation gets even worse. I don't even know if an apology would mean anything.

[Valiance]

Legend said
Ugh. Part of the thing is that they don't really have anything to do to punish me, so it makes me feel worse. I'm even taller than my dad, so poking my chest with his finger doesn't really accomplish much, and I feel terrible. But they have no idea that I feel terrible about it, which makes them think I don't care, which makes me feel even worse. And my goal of any discussion/argument is to reach a conclusion or truth at the end, and I recognize that the best course of action would be to shut up, but I can't do that. Whether it be my nature, personality, or whatever, something makes me keep talking when something they said is invalid, and then the situation gets even worse. I don't even know if an apology would mean anything.

I literally had to train myself to shut up. When my dad believes I did something, and I didn't, and I tell him the truth, he refuses to believe me. So whem shutting up isn't an option, the est thing for me to do is lie to him saying I did it because he won't listen unless it's what he wants to hear. But I have the impulse to do what you do every waking second of my life, but my impulse to do what's best in th end is greater.

[Legend]

Valiance said
I literally had to train myself to shut up. When my dad believes I did something, and I didn't, and I tell him the truth, he refuses to believe me. So whem shutting up isn't an option, the est thing for me to do is lie to him saying I did it because he won't listen unless it's what he wants to hear. But I have the impulse to do what you do every waking second of my life, but my impulse to do what's best in th end is greater.

Well I can't lie. But he did say something that I agree with, that my pride won't allow me to be wrong. However, I don't agree with the lengths of which they described my pride, especially when I continually work against it. But they act like I can't accept anything other than what I already thought, when it's the total opposite. I can't stand being wrong, so I want to reach a point where I'm right, and it strengthens the idea that whatever we've discussed is true when we agree on it. I just don't know where to go, because I can't keep myself from saying something; but that's just in regards to future situations. I don't know how to handle this tomorrow.

[Valiance]

Legend said
Well I can't lie. But he did say something that I agree with, that my pride won't allow me to be wrong. However, I don't agree with the lengths of which they described my pride, especially when I continually work against it. But they act like I can't accept anything other than what I already thought, when it's the total opposite. I can't stand being wrong, so I want to reach a point where I'm right, and it strengthens the idea that whatever we've discussed is true when we agree on it. I just don't know where to go, because I can't keep myself from saying something; but that's just in regards to future situations. I don't know how to handle this tomorrow.

I only lie when I want it over with, because I can't stand the thought that he thinks so lowly of me. But tomorrow? Are they still upset about it?

[Legend]

Valiance said
I only lie when I want it over with, because I can't stand the thought that he thinks so lowly of me. But tomorrow? Are they still upset about it?

That's really the only situation that I can shut my mouth; when I want it over with, and even then rarely. But that's the exact reason I can't let it go, because I can't stand the thought that he would think lowly of me. Whether they do anything or not, I won't be able to live with myself unless I do something to make amends.

[Legend]

And the fact that I have MPD that my parents don't know about doesn't help. X pretty much takes over in those situations, and while he makes valid points, it doesn't help my case overall. I don't want to say that he takes total control, but my words are definitely coming from his side of my brain.

[Valiance]

Legend said
That's really the only situation that I can shut my mouth; when I want it over with, and even then rarely. But that's the exact reason I can't let it go, because I can't stand the thought that he would think lowly of me. Whether they do anything or not, I won't be able to live with myself unless I do something to make amends.

I would say nothing, but then he just yells at me until I give an answer.

Legend said
And the fact that I have MPD that my parents don't know about doesn't help. X pretty much takes over in those situations, and while he makes valid points, it doesn't help my case overall. I don't want to say that he takes total control, but my words are definitely coming from his side of my brain.

Valid points never work on parents. Ever. 0% success rate for me. It's a bad idea. But I'm sorry about that, because the personality thing is something I can hardly understand.

[Legend]

Valiance said
I would say nothing, but then he just yells at me until I give an answer.Valid points never work on parents. Ever. 0% success rate for me. It's a bad idea. But I'm sorry about that, because the personality thing is something I can hardly understand.

Well in that situation, I would go "Whatever honest answer I would give you wouldn't be satisfactory." And with you dad, I'd get yelled at more. And I don't really know how to explain the personality thing, other than try to imagine your brain switching to a completely new person, changing who you are while you still call the shots on your actions. I should break that news to them sometime.

[Valiance]

Legend said
Well in that situation, I would go "Whatever honest answer I would give you wouldn't be satisfactory." And with you dad, I'd get yelled at more. And I don't really know how to explain the personality thing, other than try to imagine your brain switching to a completely new person, changing who you are while you still call the shots on your actions. I should break that news to them sometime.

I understand how it works, but I can't help you on the end of the troubles it causes.
Might I add that my dad is intimidating, at an astounding 6'6".

[Legend]

Valiance said
I understand how it works, but I can't help you on the end of the troubles it causes.Might I add that my dad is intimidating, at an astounding 6'6".

Oh dang. An evil height too.

[Valiance]

Legend said
Oh dang. An evil height too.

I'm 6'0" and he still towers over me. And it's not evil till it gets another 6.

[Legend]

Valiance said
I'm 6'0" and he still towers over me. And it's not evil till it gets another 6.

He's probably 6mm too. And we're the same height.

[Valiance]

Legend said
He's probably 6mm too. And we're the same height.

So just switch over to metric from customary measurements? Haha. But seriously, calling him evil is a but much. And that's cool. Though I'm rounding up by a couple of sixteenths of an inch.

[Valiance]

Legend said
He's probably 6mm too. And we're the same height.

So just switch over to metric from customary measurements? Haha. But seriously, calling him evil is a but much. And that's cool. Though I'm rounding up by a couple of sixteenths of an inch.

[Legend]

Valiance said
So just switch over to metric from customary measurements? Haha. But seriously, calling him evil is a but much. And that's cool. Though I'm rounding up by a couple of sixteenths of an inch.

Metric and customary and friendly together.