[OOC] The Relics (No Plot/Fantasy/Character Driven/Worthy of Skepticism)

[AlidaMaria]

Maki Casanova said
I think we're just going to start off from where we left off. I wouldn't want your progress to just evaporate like that.

Ellri said
Either way works. Keeping it will mean less development, restarting will mean that some early mistakes can be fixed. (we know we made many of them.) The most pesky issue is the sudden change in scale when we realized how small the world would be based on some numbers. And Sparks was a very good GM. This RP couldn't have developed without his wonderful base idea. Its sad to see him go.

Yeah I think both have their pros :/ I really don't want to restart but maybe it'll be better, unless Sparks wants to continue as King Arald and Sitara... And Ellri's point is very valid too... Ugh I really just want to continue from here but we can't, bah >_<

[Ellri]

The one thing we'd say favors a (partial) reboot is the fact that a number central of elements lack players to control them (Othea, the Knights of Idris, Relics constabulary, the reason almost everyone fled Amaryth, etc. )

But there's also the issue of what lore to keep if we do that. Some things shouldn't be discarded. and there's a lot of character development that shouldn't go.
We'd like to discard some elements of Kalesia. Some of them don't make perfect sense now, and some of them make it more difficult for others to play with it.

All that said, we still think this RP could also work well as a simple continuation too.

One thing's sure. A new thread needs to give ample credit to Sparks. It was his idea that sparked all this. Without a new thread or Sparks, editing the OP will be impossible, so it essentially has to be done.

[Sep]

Ellri said
The one thing we'd say favors a (partial) reboot is the fact that a number central of elements lack players to control them (Othea, the Knights of Idris, Relics constabulary, the reason almost everyone fled Amaryth, etc. )But there's also the issue of what lore to keep if we do that. Some things shouldn't be discarded. and there's a lot of character development that shouldn't go. We'd like to discard some elements of Kalesia. Some of them don't make perfect sense now, and some of them make it more difficult for others to play with it.All that said, we still think this RP could also work well as a simple continuation too.One thing's sure. A new thread needs to give ample credit to Sparks. It was his idea that sparked all this. Without a new thread or Sparks, editing the OP will be impossible, so it essentially has to be done.

If we did a restart with how things have worked I probably wouldn't make the Dynasty (even though I lurv it) as I think we should focus more on the smaller scale than the larger scale.

[Maki Casanova]

If we start over, want to accompany my poor, blind bandit boy on merry adventures Alida?

[Sep]

Seps opinions

-If we continue we should evaluate all the current kingdoms to what ones we should keep, I think if we have the map being as large as it is there is no room for later exploration and it will take ages to get anywhere.
-We should have some form of direction, I'd be happy to provide for the folk near the forest. Give us somewhere to go/something to do.

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-If we start a new the Kingdoms we have we should all agree upon and I think there should be substantially less.
-At least one of us should know direction from the start of where to go.
-Limit the control/creation of kingdoms.

I think that is what did this one for sparks and I can see where he's coming from and agree with him. We've all been too busy focusing on creating lore on kingdoms, and I admit I too have done that. If we do reboot it is unlikely I will make the Dynasty return.

[AlidaMaria]

Maki Casanova said
If we start over, want to accompany my poor, blind bandit boy on merry adventures Alida?

Sure! I think he and Marcus (+Twinkles if he wants to join) will make a good duo ^_^

Sep said
-If we continue we should evaluate all the current kingdoms to what ones we should keep, I think if we have the map being as large as it is there is no room for later exploration and it will take ages to get anywhere.-We should have some form of direction, I'd be happy to provide for the folk near the forest. Give us somewhere to go/something to do.-If we start a new the Kingdoms we have we should all agree upon and I think there should be substantially less.-At least one of us should know direction from the start of where to go.-Limit the control/creation of kingdoms.I think that is what did this one for sparks and I can see where he's coming from and agree with him. We've all been too busy focusing on creating lore on kingdoms, and I admit I too have done that. If we do reboot it is unlikely I will make the Dynasty return.

Well, Da-Hyun was originally meant as a background story and a reason to be in Amaryth for Marcus, so I'd like to keep it that way.

So... basically, now that we start over, we'll do it the way Spark intended it to be? :'D

[Ellri]

Agreed.

We would suggest a clearly defined map scale. maybe 2x2km per pixel?
That would leave us with a world of roughly 9922x7016km. Minus a little for the ocean of course, but still manageable. There might be other continents, but they wouldn't be relevant for a long time. Going with those dimensions, Kalesia would roughly be 3000x2800km. Enough for a large empire that wouldn't initially be explored.

We'd recommend sticking mostly to Othea for the start. But someone should build up that nation enough to have a playground society for the players.

We'd keep at least some of the Empire, but we'd try to keep it more mystic. If those mountains are as forbidding as they look, there probably wouldn't be much contact between the Empire and Othea. People would have heard of it, but not really know it. We'd set the Empire up as villains in relation to the Othean gov't, but not as evil to the populace. That leaves the players with a difficult choice of whether to support the local government or the invaders who treat the people well. Both of those can backfire.
Our second imagination is that Amaryth gets taken, but that the rest of the nation isn't as easily conquered.

Is that set of ideas one others think is decent?

[Sep]

Ellri said
Agreed.We would suggest a clearly defined map scale. maybe 2x2km per pixel?That would leave us with a world of roughly 9922x7016km. Minus a little for the ocean of course, but still manageable. There might be other continents, but they wouldn't be relevant for a long time. Going with those dimensions, Kalesia would roughly be 3000x2800km. Enough for a large empire that wouldn't initially be explored.We'd recommend sticking mostly to Othea for the start. But someone should build up that nation enough to have a playground society for the players.We'd keep at least some of the Empire, but we'd try to keep it more mystic. If those mountains are as forbidding as they look, there probably wouldn't be much contact between the Empire and Othea. People would have heard of it, but not really know it. We'd set the Empire up as villains in relation to the Othean gov't, but not as evil to the populace. That leaves the players with a difficult choice of whether to support the local government or the invaders who treat the people well. Both of those can backfire. Our second imagination is that Amaryth gets taken, but that the rest of the nation isn't as easily conquered.Is that set of ideas one others think is decent?

The Invasion shouldn't instantly happen as well.

[Ellri]

agreed, sep.

We already got a few ideas for building up to it.

Keeping Da-hyun as a far-off kingdom that is essentially unknown to most would fit well. Probably about as foreign as Kalesia, really.

[Blox]

Ok then I'll wait for the new thread.

[Blox]

Let me know if I'm accepted and I'll jump in.

Sorry for any typos, I'm half awake right now.

[Ellri]

" When worn, only the chosen holder of the relic can take off the key when it is being worn in any fashion. "
This bit is the one that immediately strikes us as least plausible about the character.

We'd also say you should have some sort of ability beyond unnatural wanderlust, some sort of tangible goal or some ability that makes her unique or somehow superior to regular people. It doesn't have to be powerful. Right now she's not really all that different from any other person. There's nothing making her more powerful.

The clothes on the image seem a bit modern/futuristic, but thats a minor detail.

Blox: right now, with Sparks dropping out, a reboot of sorts is being discussed.

[Maki Casanova]

I suggest you refrain from posting right now because of the reboot, but thinking up of what to post and writing it down somewhere until the new thread comes up is a good idea. :)

[Blox]

Ok sounds good

[BingTheWing]

Shit, Sparks is leaving?

NOOOOOOOOO NOOOO NOONONONONONONONONO

[Ellri]

We're slowly working on that new concept, but we need to hash out some things, like finding that map.

We've not found a completely blank version yet, but Sep found one with a few extra bits. The question is this: same map, or new one? What do people here vote?

[BingTheWing]

Anyway, who's the GM now?

[Ellri]

Its not really been decided.

[Sep]

Put it to a vote me thinks, though I'm definitely out. Shadows of Rebellion has picked more interest than I had hoped.

[AlidaMaria]

Ellri said
We're slowly working on that new concept, but we need to hash out some things, like finding that map.We've not found a completely blank version yet, but Sep found one with a few extra bits. The question is this: same map, or new one? What do people here vote?

I have a version of the map which Spark sent me when there weren't any names etc. yet. I'll send it to you once I'm home Ellri! (In about two to three hours)

Also, I'm really not suited to be a gm, so I'm out of the race for that spot too :')

... Sparks....

Would you please join us, if not as a (co) gm, then as a writer? ó.ò Because... well... you're just a bloody good writer >_< I'm like a chameleon when writing lol, with good writers around me, I get inspired and write better myself! I can totally understand that you're sick of the roleplay... but please! Your characters are so interesting, I don't want to say goodbye to them yet T-T