[OOC] The Relics (No Plot/Fantasy/Character Driven/Worthy of Skepticism)

[Guilty Spark]

Myth will have some activity on his hands, just you wait.

[Sep]

I don't want the whole thing, but where better for the Kalesian Empire to host a Sanctuary of elite hotchicks trained forever to be killers?

Bad place to invade though, they may not all be Vocators but there will be a tonne of chicks there trained to be Vocators as well :P

[WilsonTurner]

Sep said
I don't want the whole thing, but where better for the Kalesian Empire to host a Sanctuary of elite hotchicks trained forever to be killers? Bad place to invade though, they may not all be Vocators but there will be a tonne of chicks there trained to be Vocators as well :P

The coast. or maybe a desert with a river through it. Or maybe a great-plains area with large underground reserves.

Ooh! Ooh! If I pick one of those unclaimed-unnamed areas, could I essentially turn them into whatever?

Maybe take a set of the islands off-coast and turn them into a sort of fishing-pillaging-shipping people. They fish, they take stuff from the bottom of the ocean, they attack and pillage places of interest, such as someone else's town that is home to some of the best jewelers in the world, or perhaps just ship all that they have to somewhere else, should they pay to ship their stuff before getting raided.

[Guilty Spark]

Sounds like a sorority of death.

[Guilty Spark]

@Wilson, yes you could.

[AlidaMaria]

WilsonTurner said
The coast. or maybe a desert with a river through it. Or maybe a great-plains area with large underground reserves.Ooh! Ooh! If I pick one of those unclaimed-unnamed areas, could I essentially turn them into whatever?Maybe take a set of the islands off-coast and turn them into a sort of fishing-pillaging-shipping people. They fish, they take stuff from the bottom of the ocean, they attack and pillage places of interest, such as someone else's town that is home to some of the best jewelers in the world, or perhaps just ship all that they have to somewhere else, should they pay to ship their stuff before getting raided.

Wooh there would be a nation filled with pirates to the east and one to the west!

[WilsonTurner]

Sep said
I don't want the whole thing, but where better for the Kalesian Empire to host a Sanctuary of elite hotchicks trained forever to be killers? Bad place to invade though, they may not all be Vocators but there will be a tonne of chicks there trained to be Vocators as well :P

You said they'd capture and use Evokers, depending on what they can do. What would they do with Myth? He'd be about equal to a Vocator, and Myth would probably demand that if he were to serve them, he wanted to at least fight with them, and learn how they fight. Would the gender-barrier prevent him, or would he be history-breaking guy who began to train with Vocators. Or something.

Or would they just shove him into a jailcell/torture him.

[Sep]

Nah, mountains are cliché and nearby.

What's not to love?

Me and Ellri decided that due to its remoteness(And deadlyness) it is likely where any Relics we managed to recover are, if that is okay with you Spark. You could probably decide a number, though on discussion me and Ellri discussed that most of the Relics we "Remove" from their users who don't want to play nice would be assigned to someone in the Capital to put them to good use. Meaning any Relics left under Vocator protection would be either new additions to the collection or ones that were deemed to "Dangerous" or "Unpredictable" for service.

[chukklehed]

Wasn't it already decided that a relic could only bond with certain people? That's what confused me about your army of mass produced evokers, unless the empress's relic lets her FORCE bonds.

[WilsonTurner]

Ok, so I looked at the map, and I wish to make a 'lore entry' for the thingymajig.

How would the current places be described? Egyptian, african, etc.

And are fantastical creatures accepted? If there is the possibility of dragons, then there are the possibility of a race that dwells in the very large valley down the mountain range towards the South-east of the center of the continent, where there's that little lake, and a short ways North, a much larger lake that connects to the ocean. I'm still thinking of it, but if they were a light-boned, feathered, winged race, smaller than humans and more delicate, whom dwell in the mountain ranges around that area, and have several cities within the ranges, more on two or three close mountain-peaks, and then they just build down them and make bridges across, as well as large pads to be used to land on. They'd have a great capital city nestled at the base of the mountains, south of the lake-in-the-center-of-the-valley, which is south of that large bay, and two smaller cities that have the winged people and regular people in them on either side of the lake. If the winged people, let's call them Aeriians, were architects, then it'd also be likely that those two cities are the only points of entry to the capital city and the lands around it, by way of a great wall, of sorts.

or something.

[Sep]

WilsonTurner said
You said they'd capture and use Evokers, depending on what they can do. What would they do with Myth? He'd be about equal to a Vocator, and Myth would probably demand that if he were to serve them, he wanted to at least fight with them, and learn how fight. Would the gender-barrier prevent him, or would he be history-breaking guy who began to train with Vocators. Or something. Or would they just shove him into a jailcell/torture him.

Well you the Genderblock would block you as you could never become the leader so hence you could not be an actual Vocator. You could probably train with them but that would come down to the Empress. Most likely you would be re-educated to serve said Empress (May she live forever) if you accept you would get to keep your relic and get put to work and more than likely be put into a breeding program to make more relic friendly people (Don't get your hopes up, Ivona is busy).

If you refuse, someone conceives your child. Chops off your hands and takes your relic.

chukklehed said
Wasn't it already decided that a relic could only bond with certain people? That's what confused me about your army of mass produced evokers, unless the empress's relic lets her FORCE bonds.

Speak to Ellri, I collect them. He assigns them, with the mask as Ellri explained because of the fact that as you progress through the ranks you go from a ring that is connected to the mask, to a necklace that is connected to the mask it is easier to bond with. Of course if it doesn't work first time your head will likely be chopped off. I also have more lore entries to add to this masks already bloody past.

[AlidaMaria]

chukklehed said
Wasn't it already decided that a relic could only bond with certain people? That's what confused me about your army of mass produced evokers, unless the empress's relic lets her FORCE bonds.

That confused me as well!

[WilsonTurner]

Sep said
Nah, mountains are cliché and nearby.What's not to love?Me and Ellri decided that due to its remoteness(And deadlyness) it is likely where any Relics we managed to recover are, if that is okay with you Spark. You could probably decide a number, though on discussion me and Ellri discussed that most of the Relics we "Remove" from their users who don't want to play nice would be assigned to someone in the Capital to put them to good use. Meaning any Relics left under Vocator protection would be either new additions to the collection or ones that were deemed to "Dangerous" or "Unpredictable" for service.

chukklehed said
Wasn't it already decided that a relic could only bond with certain people? That's what confused me about your army of mass produced evokers, unless the empress's relic lets her FORCE bonds.

The Blademaster is a long-lived collector of all things Relics, and Guilty Spark already said that he wouldn't be allowed to have any. How is it that an order dating close to the downfall of the Relic-peoples not have any whatsoever, but the Empire does? There would be times when a Blademaster will have to defeat an Evoker in combat, maybe them being scared or a bandit, but the Blademasters still do not have any Relics.

And yea, you can't just force a Relic on someone. The Relic choses people, and the Relic gives an ability unique to that person. What may be Lightning for Myth may be Ice for his grandson [if he lives], or perhaps control over light, or perhaps over color, or perhaps over life-energy, or perhaps over... animals. Or stone. Or ores and metals. Or woods and greens.

There's no way to predict a Chosen's power, nor is there any way to force a Relic onto someone. Right? I think it's like that. The Blademasters just have the pair of gauntlets that Myth wears, and they won't come off unless you take Myth with you. Even if you cut off his hands and lower forearms, the gauntlets wouldn't release the hands.

[Guilty Spark]

chukklehed said
Wasn't it already decided that a relic could only bond with certain people? That's what confused me about your army of mass produced evokers, unless the empress's relic lets her FORCE bonds.

Unless this than yes.

The vocators all share on relic, but you wouldn't be able to just assign the other relics to people. You'd have to run people in front of them like Galbatorix did when he had those dragon eggs.

[Sep]

Guilty Spark said
Unless this than yes.The vocators all share on relic, but you wouldn't be able to just assign the other relics to people. You'd have to run people in front of them like Galbatorix did when he had those dragon eggs.

As I said, that is down to Ellri and his breeding program.

I collect them, he deals with it afterwards.

Wilson said
The Blademaster is a long-lived collector of all things Relics, and Guilty Spark already said that he wouldn't be allowed to have any. How is it that an order dating close to the downfall of the Relic-peoples not have any whatsoever, but the Empire does? There would be times when a Blademaster will have to defeat an Evoker in combat, maybe them being scared or a bandit, but the Blademasters still do not have any Relics.

It is up to spark how many (If any) we have. I mean as I say I only keep hold of any we have until Ellri can get rid off them to someone.

[AlidaMaria]

Guilty Spark said
You'd have to run people in front of them like Galbatorix did when he had those dragon eggs.

Eragon?

WilsonTurner said
How would the current places be described? Egyptian, african, etc.

Da-Hyun is most definitely Asian, I constructed it from a mixture of Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai and Viking culture.

[Guilty Spark]

AlidaMaria said
Eragon?

Si.

@Sep, alright. Well if Ellri has some mysterious elite breeding program I'm sure you can find enough citizens capable of bonding with relics. Especially if this program is breeding relic users, considering one of the secret stipulations to wielding a relic is the blood of the Old Kingdom running through your veins.

[WilsonTurner]

AlidaMaria said
Eragon?

Yea.

Guilty Spark said
Unless this than yes.The vocators all share on relic, but you wouldn't be able to just assign the other relics to people. You'd have to run people in front of them like Galbatorix did when he had those dragon eggs.

What I don't get is how the Relic has the same power over and over for every leader, and how strong of a power it must give one person. If you severed the connection between all the Vocators and the leaderVocator, then the speed and strength would be unmatchable. For the leader, it might as well be that the world is standing still, and that everyone is made of twigs and paper.

[Sep]

Guilty Spark said
Si.@Sep, alright. Well if Ellri has some mysterious elite breeding program I'm sure you can find enough citizens capable of bonding with relics. Especially if this program is breeding relic users, considering one of the secret stipulations to wielding a relic is the blood of the Old Kingdom running through your veins.

That's the plan, girls eligible and who have begun puberty at 11 are taken to sanctuary. Those unable to get rings straight away, relic comes in and they are off child bearing age bam. There will be several men there as well if the evoker is female. Beyond that, I am sure he has an idea. It is Ellri, he always does. As I said I only collect the things I don't distribute them. I was thinking we'd maybe have say one dangerous relic right now. I mean the Empire hasn't done an expansion for a while (or the king would be expecting it) which means there won't be a lot of relic intake especially as the Empress likely had every relic available bonded with someone for said campaign.

[WilsonTurner]

AlidaMaria said
Da-Hyun is most definitely Asian, I constructed it from a mixture of Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai and Viking culture.

Viking?
That group seems a little out of place, since the others are a bit more used to the lighter, faster swords, while Vikings are known to smash things. With big axes. And shields. And horned helmets.