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Robeatics said
Man, I didn't know t-shirts and jeans were professional. Or sweatshirts and shorts with a pair of sneakers. Do you go to school wearing a full suit or dress?


I'll have you know the Jurassic Park hoodie I'm wearing and mud encrusted jeans are extremely professional!

And my boot laces are duct taped. Red Green would be proud.

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Maybe you shouldn't be such a sleezeball jfc. Restrain your raging libido for an eighty minute block, you aren't a fucking animal.


It's almost as bad as when you have guys in cultures who blame women for being promiscuous and "asking for it" when the guy acts like a fucking animal around her.

Fuckers need to learn restraint and responsibility.
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Lol you've never gone to public school have you?


Yes, I don't know where you live but where I am, we had to wear uniforms in public school.
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ImANargleHunter said
Maybe you shouldn't be such a sleezeball jfc. Restrain your raging libido for an eighty minute block, you aren't a fucking animal.


I'm stating the reasons why the schools do it, not speaking personally. Guess I worded it wrong.
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Yes, I don't know where you live but where I am, we had to wear uniforms in public school.


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Aragorn said The third is education. You have a hot girl walk into class wearing nothing but leggings and a belly button shirt, be honest. You'll be looking at her, not the teacher.


Your three reasons are all wrong, but the third is the most wrong.

The primary reason that schools have dress codes is to facilitate an appropriate environment for education. It isn't about respecting multiculturalism or controlling the wanton lust of men (because really, all men are basically just raging sex-machines that occasionally idle out without sexual stimuli, right?).

Dress codes exist for the same reason that speed limits do: sure, it sucks to be restricted to going a lower speed that you'd like to when you're a capable enough driver that you can be trusted to drive as is appropriate for the conditions, but you're assuming that everyone has the same capacity for mental function that you do. The hard truth is that the core of the human population, regardless of demographic in relation to age or gender, cannot be trusted to act reasonably without some kind of reinforcement. It would be so much easier if we could just let common sense and human dignity govern society, but that simply doesn't work. Dress codes exist because if they didn't, people would wear things to school that wouldn't have been allowed under a dress code.
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Your three reasons are all wrong, but the third is the most wrong.The primary reason that schools have dress codes is to facilitate an appropriate environment for education. It isn't about respecting multiculturalism or controlling the wanton lust of men (because really, all men are basically just raging sex-machines that occasionally idle out without sexual stimuli, right?). Dress codes exist for the same reason that speed limits do: sure, it sucks to be restricted to going a lower speed that you'd like to when you're a capable enough driver that you can be trusted to drive as is appropriate for the conditions, but you're assuming that everyone has the same capacity for mental function that you do. The hard truth is that the core of the human population, regardless of demographic in relation to age or gender, cannot be trusted to act reasonably without some kind of reinforcement. It would be so much easier if we could just let common sense and human dignity govern society, but that simply doesn't work. Dress codes exist because if they didn't, people would wear things to school that wouldn't have been allowed under a dress code.


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Part of our dress code when we were younger was basically JACKETS ARE MANDATORY because WOW it gets cold in the winter.
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Dervish said
It's almost as bad as when you have guys in cultures who blame women for being promiscuous and "asking for it" when the guy acts like a fucking animal around her.Fuckers need to learn restraint and responsibility.


Amen.
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Sadly that's probably because there are parents that let their kids leave without jackets.
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ImANargleHunter said
Part of our dress code when we were younger was basically JACKETS ARE MANDATORY because WOW it gets cold in the winter.


Help! Help!

You're being oppressed!

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Amen.


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Amen.


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idlehands said
Sadly that's probably because there are parents that let their kids leave without jackets.


I used to sneak out to the bus without a jacket sometimes. In retrospect I probably made my parents look kinda bad.
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ImANargleHunter said
Part of our dress code when we were younger was basically JACKETS ARE MANDATORY because WOW it gets cold in the winter.


I remember being denied recess in Elementary School because teachers said my jacket wasn't warm looking. );
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Nargle said I used to sneak out to the bus without a jacket sometimes. In retrospect I probably made my parents look kinda bad.


You see? It's all your fault it's part of the code now.
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There are three reasons why the dress code exists in schools. One is safety(people wearing spiky belts/collars/bracelets.) The second is respect. Don't forget most schools are quite diverse, so it is considered important everybody respects each other's beliefs. The third is education. You have a hot girl walk into class wearing nothing but leggings and a belly button shirt, be honest. You'll be looking at her, not the teacher.


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Your three reasons are all wrong, but the third is the most wrong.The primary reason that schools have dress codes is to facilitate an appropriate environment for education. It isn't about respecting multiculturalism or controlling the wanton lust of men (because really, all men are basically just raging sex-machines that occasionally idle out without sexual stimuli, right?). Dress codes exist for the same reason that speed limits do: sure, it sucks to be restricted to going a lower speed that you'd like to when you're a capable enough driver that you can be trusted to drive as is appropriate for the conditions, but you're assuming that everyone has the same capacity for mental function that you do. The hard truth is that the core of the human population, regardless of demographic in relation to age or gender, cannot be trusted to act reasonably without some kind of reinforcement. It would be so much easier if we could just let common sense and human dignity govern society, but that simply doesn't work. Dress codes exist because if they didn't, people would wear things to school that wouldn't have been allowed under a dress code.


I honestly don't see anything different from what you both described. They mean the same thing, it's just that Nex had used adult to adult language and Aragorn used what the kids at school are to be told.
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The Nexerus said
Dress codes exist because if they didn't, people would wear things to school that wouldn't have been allowed under a dress code.


...Well, obviously.

I don't understand why that means that students aren't allowed to wear leggings, though.

Basically the only thing this post told me was "a rule exists because if it didn't exist people would do things beyond the limitations of said rule because, you know, the rule wouldn't exist". And that's kind of true for every sort of rule, at least in theory. That still doesn't explain the reasoning behind said particular rule. I mean, I can understand loose dress codes barring anything excessively "unreasonable", but leggings? This, your post does not answer.
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...Well, obviously. I don't understand why that means that students aren't allowed to wear leggings, though.


Because they're in the category of clothing that isn't appropriate for a school environment. Tight fitting, often somewhat somewhat sheer...

Leggings aren't pants.
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We should address the awfulness that is people wearing pajama pants around in public. It's goddamn weird.
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We should address the awfulness that is people wearing pajama pants around in public. It's goddamn weird.


"They are comfortable and I should be allowed to wear whatever I want, stop oppressing me."
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Because they're in the category of clothing that isn't appropriate for a school environment.


Well then that answer makes sense. ...And it's not far off from what Aragorn was getting at.
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