[OOC] Estermere - A Medieval Fantasy Roleplay

[BingTheWing]

The Fated Fallen said
I quite like the idea of a war, but think about numbers please. 800,000 is far too much. it would be more reasonable for a large nation to be able to muster 50,000 max

It's the bloody Sarethian empire.

Shit, they ruled what would be Asia and the Pacific Ocean combined when they were still standing.

[Professor_Wyvern]

Well but why would say Weasel stay for this?

[The Fated Fallen]

Disease and starvation follow large armies. It isn't so much as they couldn't summon that many people (which would be a stretch if they could) so much as it would be impossible to wage war, you wouldn't be able to siege due to not being able to feed your own army, and controlling a force that large in battle would be impossible without a massive command structure and radio (could replace radio with wizards).

Someone wanting to field that larger force would want the war finished in a couple of months, and push the enemy over with a show of force

[Feigling]

Or myself and the slaves. He'll, they might even fight for the invaders if they thought they'd get better treatment

[BingTheWing]

The Fated Fallen said
Disease and starvation follow large armies. It isn't so much as they couldn't summon that many people (which would be a stretch if they could) so much as it would be impossible to wage war, you wouldn't be able to siege due to not being able to feed your own army, and controlling a force that large in battle would be impossible without a massive command structure and radio (could replace radio with wizards).Someone wanting to field that larger force would want the war finished in a couple of months, and push the enemy over with a show of force

Eh, technically once they were done with conquering the Sarethians didn't do much except tell world leaders how many men they've got. Mostly, after the Age Of Conquest the Sarethians used their military for mostly intimidation, crime reduction and the occasional rebellion putdown.

Once they finally DID invade, however, yes, Fated, I agree with you.

Working on a mwa ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHHAHA post now.

[Professor_Wyvern]

But yes, the point stands why some characters would fight at all. They've got no motivation to do so

[BingTheWing]

I plan for the war to serve as a background instead of a really, really, really, really, really big encounter. There will be a dark atmosphere and we'll all be exposed to the effects of martial law. Bear in mind it is a resistance movement. It's not an offensive, it's an underground organization that doesn't operate on the front lines swinging swords and flinging potions.

[Feigling]

So what changes will actually affect us

[Professor_Wyvern]

Because the Great Background War for Control of the X (Multiverse/Galaxy/That Burger Joint/The Turf/Etc.) doesn't mean ANYTHING unless it interacts with the players in some way.

So really the only thing of note would be those changes that actually affect our characters.

As you described martial law earlier, what differences does it make to our characters? ESPECIALLY the ones who do NOT live in Estermere and would ditch as soon as that happened. Why would they have motivation to stay? Trapped due to Martial Law? It's a reason they'd stay, or kill enough of the guards to get out or help the invaders wreck the place so they can go home.

But yeah, like for the many travelers characters, it's really mostly a cue of "Sucks to be you jerk bags. Have fun scrubs." As why do they care about a town's martial law?

But for say Elric and townsfolk, it's a damn serious matter being put under martial law, something that usually rarely happens and forces everything to change. So they'd care about the War.

Travelers? Not so much, just try to avoid getting stabbed and get out. And don't come to town anymore.

[Feigling]

I like the idea, but I feel execution won't deliver as much as it promises. Some things don't work no matter how GMed a skill is.

[Professor_Wyvern]

If say, all the characters lived in Estermere the idea would work better.

For a Grand Quest/Operation/Uniting Force, gotta give all the characters a motivation to go through.

Town Resistance in a War? Not particularly good for that uniting bond. For travelers would really have no reason or motivation to help.

[BingTheWing]

Fuck, I was going to write an epic post about an entire army stationed in the snowy foot of the Everwinter Mountains.

BUT ANYWAYS

P.S Grushtov's master was only present until his pet was let loose. High chance he might still be alive, either in Ironmaw's dungeons or reporting back to his hobgobbo master.

But what was the use of Grushy rampaging through Estermere? If hobgobbos invaded, they wouldn't have much to occupy. And technically, gnolls and hobgoblins would have already become a danger if Estermere sat on the Hellish Claws' land.

Since it's already down on paper, there is nothing we can change about unless we do some HEAVY editing on all our parts.

Any ideas?

[The Fated Fallen]

Perhaps post the war post, but make it so it doesn't affect us much. When things start to go a bit stale have them take over the town, and see how characters react

[IncredibleBee]

The Fated Fallen said
I quite like the idea of a war, but think about numbers please. 800,000 is far too much. it would be more reasonable for a large nation to be able to muster 50,000 maxAlso think about what the excuse is going to be, and what the real reason is.

In the battle of Sekigahara, both the Western and Eastern armies mustered over 80,000 men. In a larger country, and especially a coalition, reaching several thousand would be no problem.

[IncredibleBee]

Feigling said
Either which way, I don't think an invasion should be a problemThe House always wins. And the House

I don't think that saying really applies here.

[The Fated Fallen]

IncredibleBee said
In the battle of Sekigahara, both the Western and Eastern armies mustered over 80,000 men. In a larger country, and especially a coalition, reaching several thousand would be no problem.

That was in 1600, much later middle ages time (end of the Tudors, which saw colonisation in America and mass gunpowder deployment before the battle.)
Only 80 years after that battle Blackbeard would be alive. This battle is long after the era we are in, and population is far more than proper medieval times. But I will agree, though difficult to field it would be possible to have an army of 80,000

[IncredibleBee]

The Fated Fallen said
That was in 1600, much later middle ages time (end of the Tudors, which saw colonisation in America and mass gunpowder deployment before the battle.)Only 80 years after that battle Blackbeard would be alive. This battle is long after the era we are in, and population is far more than proper medieval times. But I will agree, though difficult to field it would be possible to have an army of 80,000

Gunpowder aside, most technology was roughly medieval. They were still farmers and shit. Hell, we got over 100,000 crusaders during I think the First Crusade, and that was in the early 12th century.
We are presumably in a larger country, and we're not hard medieval; we're high fantasy. Armies reaching hundreds of thousands is, if anything, expected.

[The Fated Fallen]

IncredibleBee said
Gunpowder aside, most technology was roughly medieval. They were still farmers and shit. Hell, we got over 100,000 crusaders during I think the First Crusade, and that was in the early 12th century.We are presumably in a larger country, and we're not hard medieval; we're high fantasy. Armies reaching hundreds of thousands is, if anything, expected.

100,000 people from every army in Europe, and everybody laughs at the crusades because they all starved and got diseases. Not to mention that 100,000 could well count civilians, because if you wanted to go they let you because they believed all were equal in the eyes of god.

Your argument of high fantasy does have a point however, though it isn't like we are in a state of total war. In the event of conscription and magic to support the army perhaps something along the lines of 80,000 could be mustered. However they wouldn't be too efficient, mostly built on militia, but so was every medieval army.

As for saying peasants were still around, big deal. Russia still had peasants in 1850 (and arguably afterwards)

[The Fated Fallen]

And then me and Bee got into an argument again (yay)

[IncredibleBee]

The Fated Fallen said
100,000 people from every army in Europe, and everybody laughs at the crusades because they all starved and got diseases. Not to mention that 100,000 could well count civilians, because if you wanted to go they let you because they believed all were equal in the eyes of god.Your argument of high fantasy does have a point however, though it isn't like we are in a state of total war. In the event of conscription and magic to support the army perhaps something along the lines of 80,000 could be mustered. However they wouldn't be too efficient, mostly built on militia, but so was every medieval army. As for saying peasants were still around, big deal. Russia still had peasants in 1850 (and arguably afterwards)

Nobody laughs at the Crusades because it was an amazingly huge campaign that succeeded in taking Jerusalem.
Secondly, we're talking about a coalition aided by magic and shit. If the Orcs join in, then every Orc will join. That is a lot of Orcs. Orcs are more efficient than militia.

And nobody even mentioned peasants.